Devil in a blue vest
By DougJ, Head of Infidelity February 7th, 2012
CNN has Satorum up by 11 with 26% (of precincts, I think) in in CO.
Is there some channel where I can watch some Chuck Todd type guy talk about the I-2625 corridor and stuff like that? The MSNBC coverage sucks so far.
Posted in Election 2012
It’s I-25, not I-26. I’ve driven it many times.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
And what do you need Chuck Todd? Veritas’ bullshit is far more entertaining.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
I’m sure I’m late to the party, but many, many congratulations for winning the coveted Moore award. Very well done indeed!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
I read somewhere that the news media didn’t budget for this many states, they expected it to be over after Florida and didn’t do that much polling or send many reporters to the 46 other states.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
What an incredible day this has been. First we witness the bitter farewell of Karen Love-Handel, then you were nominated for the prestigious Moore Award, and now we end the day with a resurgence of Santorum. It is all a very fitting tribute for the 200th birthday of Charles Dickens. Thank you, wingnuts.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Hate Chucky Todd.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
When Rachel opened her show, she made a show of saying that the caucus tonight are “vanity prizes”. I suspect MSNBC was caught short-footed and didn’t have their coverage team together to at the very least try to cover the returns.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
@Mark S.: I just hope no one took Veritas’ check to the bank because it’s looking like that check will bounce.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
From the GOS:
February 7th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
I hope for sweep!
I hope that this is a big f——-g deal.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Mitt is bloviating about President Obama on http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx
Now they are saying with 25% in, Ricky has 43% to Mitt’s 29% and that Mitt is “tempering expectations” about the results, and they are showing footage of icicles on freeway overpasses due to the storm.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
I was thinking that the weird nature of CNN, the Chuck Todd of news networks, is going to make them Willard’s worst enemy. I can just see Wolf, Candy and John all giggly and goggle-eyed that their sacred Conventional Wisdom has been proved wrong! With a side of David Gergen to solemnly intone that Santorum’s success proves that Obama has overreached.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
BTW, I think it’s smart of Mittens to speak now while CO is too close to call, especially since there is an off chance that he may lose CO too.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
For the next few minutes, here’s a live newscast (Mittens is speaking as I write)
http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx
February 7th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
@Mary G: LOL!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
@TaMara (BHF): I’m too soft hearted to watch. I will settle for seeing good news of a mighty sweep tomorrow morning in the news, and etc.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
David Axelrod tweets:
February 7th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
A Moore award????
! Can someone link the post?
February 7th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
I haven’t been watching much live television, but do usually have the radio on at work all day and I swear I have not heard one campaign ad for Newt, Mittens, et al this past week. They really didn’t think we were important.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
This is the power of Santorum – a wonderful thing to behold, and something I’d love all Americans of all age groups to see.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
In Minnesota Romney is running behind Paul 17% to 27.4%.
He’s not even taking counties he won in ‘08.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
@beltane: This BBC radio documentary on the continuing love for Dickens in India is worth a listen.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Yes, congrats on the Moore award. Must say that the Santorum blowout is a bit of a surprise. And the whole Handel thing. Good lord, I spend a little time on spreadsheets for work and the whole blogosphere gets up ended.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
For those recounting the good news, don’t forget the demise of Prop 8
February 7th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
NCIS is weird tonight.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
30% reporting in CO, Santorum pushes his lead to 600 votes, 42-30%
February 7th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Boy, you really must be a political junkie if you actually WANT to watch Up Chuck Todd.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Colorado caucuses with 30% reporting: Santorum 43%, Romney 29%, Gingrich 15%, Paul 13%
BTW, Letterman going hard on Romney for the dog on top of the car incident. In the form of snarky jokes though…still it’s in the national conversation and I know from experience that when I tell people about the dog, theyall have a look of horror on their faces
February 7th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Next stop for the clown show (if you excuse the Maine caucuses) is Arizona/Michigan on Feb 28th, which seems like enough time for a Romney carpet-bomb, plus he’s back in Lower Mormonia.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
@Anoniminous:
I didn’t a single mitt county in the scroll.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
The ABM [anyone but Mitt] treaty is in full effect.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Here’s the Moore Award.
Opinions vary, but I’ve been told tonight’s primaries have the meaningful consequences of sweet. fuck. all. Someone smarter than me or more informed (which pretty much is anyone here) explain the repercussions or gravity of tonight’s results.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
@beltane:
Karen!
Ron!
Moore!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Ok, simple rules guys:
Interstates that go north-south are odd.
Interstates that go east-west are even.
Lower one and two digit interstates are south and west, higher numbers north and east.
3 digit interstates are expansions to one and two digit interstates.
That’s it.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
It was only on Sunday that I saw my first Romney bumper sticker/lawn sign/indication that an actual human being wants to be associated with the man. That was only the second instance of my seeing anyone publicly associating themselves with one of these goobers who wasn’t Ron Paul—I actually saw a Rick Perry bumper sticker in Sacramento with my fiancee and we both literally laughed when we saw it. This as opposed to 2008, when I saw a decent amount of McCain paraphernalia.
Anecdata don’t count for much, but I see little evidence that actual people care for these candidates.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
@beltane: Don’t forget Prop 8 ruling and the White House Science Fair!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
@lamh35:
This is good, because McCain machinegunned his own feet into tatters by pissing off Letterman in 2008.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
John O:
Here.
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February 7th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
@Martin:
Thank you, King Eisenhower, jeez.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
The Santorum is truly undeniable at this point. Mitt didn’t think that it would happen, he thought he was being so careful, but there it is – for all to see. Santorum. Everywhere.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
ok, enough with the damn glitter-bombs people. It’s ridiculous and there is no need to make Romney seems sympathetic at all. Plus he has Secret Service protection now and one of the glitter-bomber is gonna get tackled.
Darn even i felt bad for Romney, dude looked jolted. Did anyone else see that?
February 7th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
@Martin: What about I-238?
February 7th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
@Martin:
I crossed Canada on I-100. Just sayin’.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Mitt buried by Santorum!
The headlines write themselves!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Per nate silver on twitter…turnout in Romney’s weakest areas in Colorado is UP!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Mitt buried by Santorum avalanche in Colorado! Film at 11!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
@Lev:
I almost committed seppuku when I started seeing “Jeb!” bumper stickers in the same neck of the woods, circa 2005.
Glad that passed.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Romney quote (for real): “The race is too close to call in Colorado at this point but I’m confident I’ll come in number one or number two.”
The fact that he would even say number 2 is a sign that he knows this may not go his way.
Santorum is truly flowing tonight.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
John King’s touchscreen wall of inanity is all done up in My Little Pony colors. Maybe he’s a bronie?
February 7th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Can’t we have a “2012 Moore Award Nominee” banner ad up top, nao? A fucking badge of fucking honor, golldangit.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
OT, Hmm, Hispanics representin’.
Will this make National news???
L.A. Mayor To Blast Romney On Immigration
February 7th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
@sfinny:
the Santorum blowout is a bit of a surprise.
Heh!
February 7th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
@freelancer: There’s three lines of repercussions:
1) Delegates. Not many delegates in play. None in MO. Mathematically it helps Santorum a little, hurts Mitt a little, and that’s about it.
2) Momentum. Mitt wants to show he’s the inevitable guy. He wants to choke off funds to his opponents. This won’t help AT ALL. If it was close, it probably wouldn’t hurt. If he lost for obvious regional regions (such as winning/losing in Utah for a Mormon, or winning/losing to Ron Paul in a place like Alaska) it wouldn’t be a problem. This isn’t those cases. This is a real question mark over whether Mitt can reel in the next round of primaries. Tonight was multitasking for the first time, and Mitt should have done that better than anyone. It’s the place where organization and money help – a lot. And that’s his upper hand. He’s getting CRUSHED in the very kind of race that he should be running away with this. How does that impact the next round of fundraising and how does that affect the super delegate fight? The GOP has that as well, and that was instrumental in 2008 for Obama to slowly bleed supers away from Hillary largely based on the inevitability shift.
3) Demographics/Electability. CO/MN/MO are pretty damn white-bread states. MO is still considered a bellwether for the general election. CO and MN aren’t so deep in the Dems corner that the GOP can’t win them – particularly someone who looks like Romney. Is Romney doing poorly because of the Mormon thing, where this portends trouble in November? Is it because GOP voters have finally soured on Mitt due to his unfavorables, and they don’t think he can win in the general? Was turnout just so low that this is representative of nothing about the candidates, but instead about the weakness of the GOP field in general? Lots of inside baseball bits to dissect. I have to imagine the big boys in the RNC are shitting radioactive bricks right about how.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
@lamh35:
Well sure, glitter is metallic and conductive, so it probably caused a short.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
This just in: Santorum takes Kit Carson County with nearly 60% of the vote!
(admittedly this is a shit-kicker county, but, hey, it’s named after Kit Carson!)
February 7th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
@garbo: I understand he got a cutie mark tat.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Romney overcome by Santorum’s surge.
Yes, those headlines write themselves.
February 7th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Oh the schadenfreude is sweet this week.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Up to 45% reporting and Santorum still leading comfortably. I wonder if the networks are going to call it soon.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Willard’s only real selling point was his competitiveness with the President in head to head polling. If recent trends continue, and Romney falls far enough behind, it’s anybody’s nomination to win.
I think that’s why the Romney campaign was ripping the methodology of some of the polling yesterday. They know people despise their candidate, and he engenders no loyalty. Consequently, once things start going bad for him, it tends to snowball.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Interesting that our pet troll seems to have vanished after MN was called for Man on Dog.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:02 am
@Martin:
This.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:02 am
@lamh35:
Glitter Bombing is the Dan Choi of anti-homophobe activism. When it first happened, like to Newt, we all laughed and were like Fuck Yeah! Now it’s like, Jesus, did you really have to chain yourself to the White House fence? aka Did you really have to get tackled and embolden the GOP base in one fell stroke? Romney isn’t the first choice of the ghey-hating base, and anti-anti-ghey activism of this stripe fires them up in a way that they never would have been before in addition to hobbling the gay rights movement which in the last decade has just been struggling to say “We’re here, We’re queer, We’re the sons and daughters and co-workers and friends you’ve always known us to be, so just chill on all the selective Biblical talk, MmmKay?”
I suck at chess worse than any smart person whose ever lived, but moar better activism pleaz.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:02 am
@AnotherBruce: And here I was trying to not make a comment that was anything that referenced surges or other things.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:03 am
interesting factoid: So far Romney’s victories have been in states that Clinton beat Obama. Romney hasn’t carried any state won by Obama v. Clinton. Colorado was a Hillary state
February 8th, 2012 at 12:04 am
the last thing anyone who will vote for obama should want to do is make any result, not a big deal, we need to be pumping everything that is anti-mitt as the biggest deal ever.
make em ratfuck each other for as long as possible,
February 8th, 2012 at 12:05 am
The GOP establishment might try to force Mitt on the base, but tonight the base delivered a resounding response: “We are going to shove Santorum down your throat!”
February 8th, 2012 at 12:05 am
@Left Coast Tom: Ooh, excellent exception! I-238 is east-west, so the even rule applies, but it’s named 238 because of the highway it extends, so there is no I-38 it’s an extension of.
Forgot about that one. Well, rules wouldn’t be rules without exceptions. But it’s really short. Driven on it, even. In fact, I think I’ve probably driven on at least part of better than 80% of the interstates in the lower 48.
@trollhattan: Canada? Fucking Canada doesn’t have rules. They have one highway. It’s called ‘Highway’. I’ve driven quite a lot of that highway. There was a section in Saskatchewan that was on fire. The actual highway was on fire. Not next to the highway – the literal highway itself. They don’t need to number it. If there’s any confusion about which highway, they can always call it ‘The highway that is on fire’ and that should be clear enough.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:05 am
@Martin:
My unscientific take: Mitt can only win if he spends $20 million on attack ads for a solid week before the primary. I wish there were some statistic on money to votes with this guy.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:05 am
@Michael
OK, now that makes me gag. Gross!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:08 am
@Michael:
Well, there’s only about 8,000 votes in those 45% of precincts. They were hoping for 70,000, so think of it more like 12% of votes.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:09 am
@sfinny: Clearly your subconscious 12 year old was too strong!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:09 am
@freelancer:
In terms of delegates, “sweet fanny adams” is about right. In terms of the narrative—that Mittens can’t win in the midwest or the south—perhaps not.
It makes me wonder whether any of the clowns have actually got a delegate-accumulation strategy in place, or whether they’re still treating it like a fight where it’s knockout or nada.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:09 am
We need to send a nice gift basket to Dan Savage for all the puns he has made possible. This primary season would be so much less fun without them.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Didn’t Santorum take time off from campaigning to be with his sick daughter after the loss in Florida? While Newt and Romney went all in chasing Trump’s endorsement. It’s like losing to an empty chair.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Funny, here’s Santorum taking a bite out of Mittens tonight and the lead story on the news was about the rescue of a dog from an icy pond.
Even the local news doesn’t give a crap about the CO primary.
See this is what happens in a state that loves their dogs, you fucking put yours on top of the car and they ignore you on the 10pm newscast.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:11 am
@Martin: Ah, that makes sense.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Colorado latest results still don’t include the big urban counties, so this may take a while, but the trend continues to be Santorum.
Now, admittedly, Colorado is not Oregon and vice versa, but the urban counties vote very differently than the hinterlands in Oregon. Basically, if you can take Multnomah County and Lane County in Oregon, you’ve got the upper hand in a statewide race, and those two counties are the last to report, for the most part. Merkley’s win over Smith in ‘08 Senate, and Kitzhaber’s win over Dudley for Governor in ‘10 hinged on Multnomah and Lane Counties.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Via the Graun, from the twitter machine:
February 8th, 2012 at 12:12 am
@Michael:
That’s not where Santorum goes.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:13 am
@Martin:
A thing of beauty.
I’ll add:
1. Romney won Minnesota in ‘08 with 41.6%. He’s coming in third with 17.1% tonight. The mark of a floundering politician is one that cannot hold on to his support.
2. Aside from New Hampshire, Romney has only won states by negative and attack ads. In five years of campaigning he has yet to demonstrate he can convince people to vote for him, not vote against the other guy.
3. One over-riding property of this GOP Presidential nominating campaign is the rejection of Romney by the Base, and even the GOP as a whole. Only in the last four weeks has he reached 37% national support numbers or, turning it around, 63% of the GOP don’t want him at the top of the ticket.
4. A couple of weeks ago the Fundie-Cons got together and decided to back Santorum as their Candidate. It didn’t work in Florida but it may very well have happened tonight. These people have money but more importantly they have national organizations capable of raising a ton of money AND they have boots-on-the-ground. Santorum, tonight, has shown he can win and win big. Thus the Fundie-Cons have evidence that they aren’t throwing their time, money, and effort away by working for him.
5. IF #4 is accurate THEN we may see the Fundie-Cons unite the Not-Romney vote and in which case Romney is toast.
6. IF #5 comes around THEN the chances of a full-bore GOP faction fight breaking out greatly increases … just in time for a Presidential election.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:16 am
@Mary G:
Bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !
February 8th, 2012 at 12:16 am
sfinny:
Nobody expects a Santorum blowout.
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February 8th, 2012 at 12:17 am
@Martin: It’s an even bigger exception…it may actually go east-west, but it’s signed north-south, because Mission Blvd., which it extends, is…northwest/southeast, but parallel to the Bay, so it’s north/south.
I-238
At the time it was named, all the x80 numbers were taken (180 by CA-180 in Fresno, the others as I-80 loops/spurs, I-480 was since torn down after Loma Prieta did San Francisco a favor by damaging the road beyond repair).
There’s also the ‘proposal’ for I-338, hopefully Jerry Brown can fit that into the budget somewhere.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Santorum surges in own pants after come-from-behind creaming of Romney.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@JGabriel:
Winner.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@Garbo
What do you mean? Puns? I don’t find anything strange about someone walking up to me and saying, “have you heard the good news about Santorum?” Or, say, “we’re going to use Santorum to clean up Washington!” And I certainly find nothing hilarious about the dedicated supporters who live, breathe and work with the constant thought of promoting Santorum throughout the USA. Patriots and Santorum-lovers, the lot of them.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@Martin: One more rule: Add the interstate and the adjacent US highway and it equals 110:
I-80, US30
I-70, US40
I-95, US 1 … wha? Maybe US15?
OK, it works for two of them.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@JGabriel:
Are you in Colorado? Do you know what the local political news people are saying?
They generally have a pretty good idea of what is happening and why.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:21 am
@freelancer:
It’s psychological.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Anoniminous:
Not me, I’m an NYC man.
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February 8th, 2012 at 12:23 am
@Martin:
Welp, considering the Canada Division of Big Roads, Eh? is staffed entirely by beavers, a burning highway now and then is to be expected. They don’t know from concrete but birch—oh yes.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:25 am
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
In general, the old “US” highway system ran low east/north high west/south, with a few crazy exceptions. So, when the Interstate system was planned, the numbering scheme went the opposite way.
The general rule for the three number Interstates is that even first digit is a loop or bypass (like I-405 in Seattle, Portland, and LA) and odd first digit is a spur off of the parent Interstate (see I 505 in the Sacramento Valley, which runs due south after I-5 bends towards Sacramento, to provide a route to the Bay Area).
February 8th, 2012 at 12:25 am
Big population precincts coming in…things tightened up pretty quick. 51% reporting, Santorum is only up 2%, a couple hundred votes. Just eclipsing ~20K total votes
February 8th, 2012 at 12:26 am
But don’t you know who else favored sweater vests?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:26 am
@beltane:
That must be why HBO was playing Hereafter. It was directed by Clint Eastwood, so I guess they got a two-fer in the hot topics department.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Whoa, got that wrong, CNN has Romney leading now.
Sad face.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@JGabriel: Gah!
February 8th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@JGabriel: “Apolitical”?! He can’t be fucking serious, can he?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:28 am
I lived in Colorado for a while (Boulder & Longmont, before the Front Slope was all paved over with now-forclosed houses.)
We may be seeing the power of the Evangelical/James Dobson/Colorado Springs Axis. They will never ever vote for a Mormon – they believe them to be of Satan and His Works.
Hell, even the Colorado Rockies were thanking God for a time when the team was playing well. And doesn’t Tebow play for the Broncos? Holy-rollers get a smooth ride in that state.
Call it the Mormon backlash. Except nobody will actually say that publicly.
Update: Romney closing in. Thank God they delayed the vote returns for so long, eh?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:29 am
I wonder if Huckabee’s kicking himself for not running. I think he’d be kicking ass. He’s a lot more likeable than Ricky or Newt.
I don’t think any of the guys (Christie, Jindal, or Daniels) that Bobo and Kristol like to fluff would be doing any better.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:30 am
This could make Mr. Romney’s math very difficult in Colorado. He won 59 percent of the vote in El Paso County in 2008, close to his statewide total. Although the area has a large number of evangelical voters, it is closer to being a swing region than other parts of the state in the context of a Republican caucus.
According to Nate Silver
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 am
@Morbo:
At Sully’s site? Not the brightest minions in the blogosphere.
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February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Douglas County CO (due south of Denver) has gone Romneytron.
El Paso County CO (home of Jeebofascist Dobson) still not reporting.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:31 am
@JGabriel:
Ah, OK.
The Lower East Side (Avenue A, All the Way!) and Village were me old stompin’ grounds back mumblety-mumblety years ago.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 am
It’s been said, but that glitter bombing shit is not funny. OK, haha, he’s a Republican. Fuck you, it’s stupid, knock it off. Making life more complicated for the Secret Service so you can make a candidate fucking sparkly is stupid. Are you trying to join the John Hinkley Jr. school of Winning Friends and Influencing People?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 am
@JGabriel: Well this a problem when we can’t even comment without it being an urban dictionary activity.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:35 am
@Anoniminous: Good point about MN. I hadn’t caught up to that trend, but that’s a HUGE drop in support for Mitt there. You could almost excuse it if Santorum was from MN and not in the race in 2008, but the dude is from PA.
I wouldn’t worry tooo much about the vote-for/vote-against distinction, at least within the viewpoint of the GOP. There’s nothing vote-for in their plan for 2008. It’s all Nobama Muslim Abortion Soçialist. It’s a losing strategy, but apparently it’s the GOP strategy and has been since 2010 at least when the swept a bunch of teatards into Congress to say ‘fuck you America’ to everything.
On your last point, I think the risk of a convention fight just went up a lot tonight. For all of optics of this, it doesn’t change the delegate race much. The winner take all states come later and big states like CA aren’t likely to fall to Santorum. I’d put my money behind the bond traders over Rick Warren here. That may indeed lead to a result where the delegates fell disproportionately on Mittens but the heart of the party stays between Santorum and Noot.
Bottom line though – this is just awesome.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:36 am
@Morbo:
Yeah, this whole incident was apolitical until DougJarvus Green-Ellis brought it up.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Romneytron took Denver County. Still waiting for El Paso.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 am
NYTime headline:
SSSSSantoruuuuummmmmm
February 8th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Only around 4,000 people voted in Denver County? Who do you have to blow to get into one of these caucuses? Or is it so much trouble that most people don’t bother?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Denver was Romney’s big chance to take Colorado. Colorado Springs (El Paso County) and the rural counties left to drop will go heavily for Santorum. C-Springs is the hometown of James Dobson Tony Perkins and is the Mecca for Protestant fundamentalism in the US.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:45 am
@Left Coast Tom: All the X-80 numbers were taken? 295, 495, and 695 repeat all up and down the east coast. Maybe they have to be unique within a state?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Hmm. Denver and Douglas (Boulder) are both in and both went for Mittens. Arapahoe (Aurora, Littleton) not in yet, but it’s big (3rd largest after Denver), and may well go for Mittens also. But Mitt doesn’t have much of a lead here.
El Paso county also not in. It’s Dobson county, and is actually larger than Denver county (Denver county is physically small and the large population there flows over into the neighboring counties).
This might be pretty close, and I think Mitts biggest vote haul might already be counted.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:45 am
CNN is actually showing tweets from their own commentators. How better to demonstrate “we don’t get it!”
February 8th, 2012 at 12:46 am
@Mark S.: Going to a caucus generally takes a minimum of two hours. Would you hang around with republicans two hours to show your devotion to Mitt, Newt, or Ricky?
February 8th, 2012 at 12:47 am
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
That’s the deal…unique within the state, and CA had a situation where California State Highways had already used some of the x80 numbers, and they didn’t want to have multiple same numbered routes.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:49 am
I love the counties that only racked up 54 total votes. We get more people than that at 4th of July parties.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:50 am
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: I-xyy numbers have to be unique within a state, and California has a further requirement that numbers can’t be repeated even in different numbering systems. So, CA-180 in Fresno precluded a I-180 in the Bay Area because of California law, though federal law would have been OK with it.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Just tweeted from Ari Fleischer:
“My sources now tell me that Santorum will win CO…wow”
February 8th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Romney is going to get humiliated in Colorado. His margin in Denver and Boulder is nowhere near enough to compensate for Dobsontwn and the sticks. Let it be said that low-information religious Republicans fucking loathe their likely presidential nominee.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:55 am
@Left Coast Tom: Good to know. I expect we’ve beaten this dead horse and hijacked the thread pretty well for now, don’t you? Mind you, at least these pissants learned something tonight.
I’ll be quiet now and go back and work on my US+Interstate numbering some more.
mumble mumble
BSoSR +2
February 8th, 2012 at 12:56 am
24K votes so far in CO and Denver and Boulder are in. Unless turnout in CO Springs and Aurora are pretty huge, they may not hit their 70K target.
MN had 62K votes in 2008. So far only 45K, with most of the big counties in.
MO had 588K in 2008, 242K this year. Lower because there’s no delegates, but still.
Not feeling the enthusiasm.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:56 am
@Martin:
You can say that again.
I’ll take Obama over any of these goofballs in the General, but it sure would be nice to see them ripping each other up and slogging into Tampa without a First Round victor.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:57 am
@scottinnj:
really? because i was there for 2 weeks working for obama in Colorado in 2008and i think i’d remember if we had lost.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:57 am
Over at TPM Santorum just surged back ahead, and we still haven’t heard from Arapahoe or El Paso Counties.
OvenMitt is in a world of hurt.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Nate Silver: “We have seen a pattern tonight in which turnout is reasonably steady in areas that Mr. Romney loses, but has trended downward in counties that he lost.”
ETA: Nate’s coverage is great…live updates and great analysis about every 10 minutes or so.
February 8th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Romney barely won Jefferson county now in (west of Denver) and Santorum has a 500 vote lead. Romney would have to win Aurora by epic levels. He’s done – I don’t see how he doesn’t get crushed in El Paso.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:00 am
BTW, In MN, with 86% of the precincts reporting in, it’s Santorum, then Paul, then OvenMitt waaaaaaaay back in third place.
So much for the Romenytron sweep that the pet troll was crowing about.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 am
@martin: Some of those counties are huge, sparse, rugged and snowed in. For a lot of folks just getting to and from a caucus is not a trivial problem.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Wow, off to sleep, but CNN saying that Santorum beat Romney
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Santorum wins CO! Trifecta!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:02 am
ANd CNN calls it for Santorum via the head of the Colorado GOP!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Santorum Wins! Hahahahahahahha
February 8th, 2012 at 1:03 am
@WaterGirl: He’s wrong. Obama won 2:1. He crushed Hillary.
Obama lost only one caucus: Nevada. That was Hillary’s glass chin – she had money to be competitive in primary states, but didn’t have the organization to win caucuses. Even in the Texas two-step she won the primary, he won the caucus.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:03 am
@Martin:
HuffPo has a county map and comparison to ‘08 totals here.
What I’m seeing is Romney is mostly running behind his ‘08 numbers both percentage-wise and in total vote.
And, it appears, total voter turn-out is way down. Not much enthusiasm and the snowfall TaMara was talking about, I’ll bet.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Time for someone (Dan Savage?) to register GaysAgainstGlitterBombs.com. It’s really not fucking clever.
And all signs point to Dobsonia going to their man in the sweater vest.
Mittens won in Aspen, at least.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:04 am
NYTimes has called CO for Rih. Note: Gingrich won Bent County.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:05 am
@Veritas,
You’ve bankrupted me! Can I stay at your house – I’ve nothing and nowhere to go.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Bring out the brooms…you’ll need them if you followed the pet troll’s advice because you’ve been taken to the cleaners.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:06 am
The Santorum was unstoppable on this day. Like trying to plug a hole in a leaking ship, overpowering.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Santorum hat trick tonight in MO, MN, & CO. Bravo Zulu!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 am
YES!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 am
They really don’t have a candidate. Shame
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Who wants to explain the amazing drop off in support for Romney from ‘08? It really is kind of gobsmacking.
After all, Huckabee was in the running and should have picked up the hardline fundies while McCain was also in the race and one would think he’d have appealed to the GOP establishment.
Seems a bit odd.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:07 am
@Villago Delenda Est: BOOKMARK IT LIBS!!
(sorry, that never gets old)
February 8th, 2012 at 1:08 am
@Tim F.: Hey, I used to live in Colorado. No such thing as snowed in there. If they’re using snowed in as an excuse, it’s because they didn’t want to vote in the first place.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:08 am
@Yutsano:
Yes, there was a sweep tonight!
A SANTORUM sweep!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:11 am
@Martin: you know, i even remembered the celebration we had after the win, so i’m glad to have confirmation that i’m not crazy!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 am
@sfinny:
I’m sorry? Do I need to be? Is that something I should be apologizing for, or is it just an observation?
Anyway, it was a setup line I couldn’t resist.
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Better spend lots of that Karl kash Mitt, wouldn’t want to lose Arizona.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:13 am
@marcopolo:
VICTORY!
And remember what I said about losing the kids’ college fund by trusting Veritas and betting on Romney?
I lied.
Muhammad Saeed al-Sahaf (a.k.a. “Baghdad Bob”, the former Iraqi Information Minister)has more street-cred as a political prognosticator.
Reality has been checked … and mated.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:13 am
You have to give it to Veritas, he did call a sweep tonight!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:14 am
@Mark S.: Denver County is the city of Denver only. Except for a few old moneybags it’s all Democrats there. The GOP voters are in Jefferson, Arapahoe, etc.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Someone check on Veritas, I’m afraid he might hurt himself after the trifailure by Rombambi.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Romney looks like a sack of Santorum, in the googlical sense.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Maybe Romney supporters heard that he’d wrapped it up after Nevada so there was no reason to come out tonight. Too much celebrating on the five yard line.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:17 am
@marcopolo: I’m stumped by that as well. Maybe pushback against his tax/finance background in MN, which is fairly labor friendly? I don’t know, but that’s an amazing collapse.
The bean counters are finally starting to tear through the aggregate results, and it’s looking more and more like Romney is winning by dominating the 1% vote – both in fundraising and in demographics. This might turn out to be a bigger referendum on SuperPACs and tax policy than we might have realized.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:17 am
@Tim F.:
OT Hey Tim F: have you seen this?
http://olympusomd.com/en-US/
Bloody hell, want! You can bother Max 50% faster, and in the rain, also, too.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:20 am
@Donald G:
I saw what you did there.
@Killjoy: Nope. Watch for the shifting allegiances. He’ll be crowing about the virtues of Ol’ Frothy by morning. Because we have always been at war with Eastasia.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:20 am
@Donald G: Huzzah! CO hands Mittens the mitten! I can’t wait for the whole country to hand it to him.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:21 am
Looks like Romneytron is winning Vail and Steamboat. Grab a lift ticket, kiddies!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:23 am
538 talks about the enthusiasm gap in caucus states. I’ll put in another way: if you’re a Romney supporter, do you really want to spend two hours in the company of the supporters of the other three clowns?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Hey, those of you with well-protected / non-Windows computers: have you been by Washington Monthly tonight? My copy of Firefox (with NoScript installed) is claiming that it’s a reported attack page.
I didn’t go past the warning, and I wouldn’t advise anyone with a potentially vulnerable browser to try it.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Everyone in but Dobsonia, and Santorum has a 2,000 vote lead.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Great Tweet from Molly Ball via Richard Adams @ Guardian:
Which, by the way, I confess, I was exactly the same way at the beginning of the evening — all “this is gonna be boring, I should watch those Justified eps I’ve been saving up” and then HOLY SHIT WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT li’l Man on Dog started winning everywhere.
Please remember, folks, Ricky Santorum is our worst fear as liberals. Make sure all your GOP friends and relatives know we sockulist liberal Democrats are deathly afraid of Santorum running against Obama. There’s just no way we could beat a Santorum juggernaut. We desperately hope Santorum isn’t the GOP nominee.
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:25 am
@Martin: Here in MO (where I admit I voted for the frothy mix and had fun doing so), the vote was a clear repudiation of the GOP establishment in the state which has pretty much lined up behind Romney as evidenced by this article about GOP presidential fundraising in state so far.
Perhaps you are right and the entire 99%/1% meme is working overtime in the GOP race too. Remember, Santorum has been positioning himself as the blue-collar/working man candidate on the R side.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:25 am
TPM is showing every county but El Paso reporting, and Rih ahead by nearly 2000 votes.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Hey! I have a check here, signed by our resident troll, that Rim-Me wouldn’t have any Santorum issues in Colorado. Well, maybe Veritas’ check can be used to wipe off the Santorum (there MUST be a handy wipe joke one can make ouot of Mittens, but I’m too tired and/or drunk to come up with it).
February 8th, 2012 at 1:26 am
@Villago Delenda Est:
Pretty much every state race for governor has been decided by Multinomah county. Those guys keep it real for the rest of us.
The rest of the state has no idea what is good for them. Those fools were willing to vote some real moronic weak Republican candidates. Kitzhaber has been doing a pretty good job working with everyone. He should win re-election quite easily.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:26 am
All in now. Santorum won by 3500. Total of 66K voters – below the 70K hoped for. So far every state but SC came in light. Bad, bad, bad trend.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:26 am
Hurray, the Snark has been found, and it is a Santorum.
Let us all rush to worship it and inhale its heady fumes!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Fucking awesome results. Thank you, Republican voters.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:28 am
@Martin: And by “bad” you mean “good”, of course.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:29 am
@Sarah Proud and Tall: It can only get more wrong from here. And I plan on enjoying every moment of it. :)
February 8th, 2012 at 1:29 am
Santorum takes Dobsonia 47% to 31% for the servant of Satan!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:29 am
Dear Repulicans,
Really?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:31 am
@JGabriel: What do I get for predicting the CO win on BJ earlier today? Or yesterday. Can’t remember which.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:31 am
@WaterGirl:
You get Veritas’ torn up keno cards.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:33 am
@Yutsano: We get a caucus in May. I’m considering signing up.
OT: Just got back in town and haven’t unloaded my camera yet. Saw snowy owls in Ocean Shores and coasties training jumping out of helos in the ocean at Cape D. Fun!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:34 am
@WaterGirl: A cookie?
(I have rugelach dough in the fridge!)
@MikeJ: I don’t want to only because I’d have to affiliate. And without getting into too much detail that’s a religious no-no for me.
U SHARE PIX NAOW!! :)
February 8th, 2012 at 1:34 am
@Martin:
They have one highway. It’s called
‘Highway’‘da High-weh, you hoser’.FTFY.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:34 am
Way cool. Especially when curious GOP voters in other states start to google Santorum. I’d been wondering what would happen to the GOP if Newt were the southern Not-Mitt and Santorum became a northern Not-Mitt, we just may find out.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:36 am
@WaterGirl:
Heh. I predicted that too. I don’t know what the prize is, but we’ll have to share it.
But I didn’t know the Frothy Mix would take all three.
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Can you imagine the shitstorm inside the Romney campaign tonight! Oh to be a fly on the wall!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:38 am
Romney a distant third in MN? I love it. I don’t know what’s funnier, The Passion of The Willard, or CNN’s “all star panel”: Michael Reagan, Amy Holmes (Glenn Beck sidekick), and Andrew Breitbart, looking for all the world like a younger version of Nick Nolte’s DUI mugshot.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:38 am
Andrew Breitbart on CNN looked disgruntled and depressed. I has a happy.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:39 am
@Villago Delenda Est: @Yutsano: Thank you for the kind offers!
@JGabriel: Of course I’m willing to share! You take the torn up keno cards and i’ll take the cookie?
Everybody seemed to be predicting the two wins, so I kind of thought he would take all 3. But seeing the 3 losses is much more gratifying than I even thought it would be. :-)
February 8th, 2012 at 1:42 am
@JGabriel:
Sorry pal, but Pennsylvania won’t be buying it. Been there, done that. Saw the movie, bought the T-shirt, wiped everything up with it, tossed it out.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 am
“Explain it to me as if I were a six-year-old child or a golden retriever”. What happened tonight? Is it big just for tonight? Or might a NotRomney get the candidacy at this point? Or is the glee just that Romney is going to take the stage six months from now in Tampa with a thousand more visible punctures in his hull and say, “You bet this ship is seaworthy!”?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 am
@The Dangerman:
I think Mittens is doing that all by hisself.
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:43 am
Isn’t anyone worried this could lead to a brokered convention and someone like Jeb or Christie coming in? I tend to think not, but still, that prospect is horrifying.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:44 am
@Mary G:
Dang. Gonna need another repair on the Schadenfreude meter.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:47 am
This sentence is a thing of beauty!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Going to bed. Watching the effects of Santorum has left me totally spent.
As for a brokered convention – I never count Jeb Bush out.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:48 am
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
Ain’t been thrown into any briar patches lately, haina?
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February 8th, 2012 at 1:51 am
@J: HE DID NOT WIN THE MOORE AWARD
!!
Was just NOMINATED!
Lets not jinx the competition, mmkay?
February 8th, 2012 at 1:51 am
@marcopolo:
You gotta figure Willard’s itching to fire someone, but he can’t fire himself.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:51 am
@Amanda in the South Bay:
In that scenario, the Republicans would be fronting a candidate, for a national election to be held less than two months later, who has no funding, no ground organisation, and who did not receive any votes in (what would presumably have been) a hotly contested primary season.
It would be a slaughter. Obama would eat them up and dance on their bones.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:53 am
@Amanda in the South Bay:
Honestly, no. I think the likely scenario is that Mittens will carpet-bomb Santorum from Michigan to Arizona, and restore some momentum for
PooperSuper Tuesday—and basically throttle his way to the nomination in a way that pisses off lots of loyal Goopers and the general public who have to sit through endless negative ads during the local evening news.February 8th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Romney is going to be spending a lot of money going negative on just about everyone. Rick is on the top of the list, but I’m sure Gingrich is also there. He’s going to blow through his wad trying to get Santorum first!
February 8th, 2012 at 1:53 am
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Holy shit, has CNN devolved even more? I sent them a letter quitting them when Ewik was hired and haven’t watched since. That is one gruesome panel. Sad.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:54 am
@Villago Delenda Est: I keep imagining everyone at Obama headquarters breaking out in uncontrollable giggling every few minutes.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:54 am
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
At the very least he’s going to short himself.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:55 am
OT but there’s no open thread – I just tried to go to washingtonmonthly.com and got a REPORTED ATTACK PAGE! warning. Anyone else have the same thing? I go to that site almost daily and this is the first time I’ve ever seen that, and I haven’t changed my security settings…
February 8th, 2012 at 1:57 am
Karen Handel resigns in shame, the 9th Circuit strikes down Proposition 8, and Mitt Romney gets his butt kicked by little Ricky Santorum.
It was a very good day.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:58 am
@AnotherBruce:
Lots o’ Mormons here in sand-land. If Willard loses AZ, he is well and truly in deep shit. Or deep Santorum as it were.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:58 am
@freelancer: I don’t think we really know. I don’t think anyone knows.
IMO, the most alarming problem within the GOP is that NOBODY has a positive favorability. Santorum can win over the god botherers, Romney the millionaires, Noot the ‘who will piss off liberals the most’ but each group hates the favorite of the other groups.
In past years, I think they would have weathered this due to more traditional and moderate campaigning, but so far it’s been nothing but millionaire SuperPACs cluster bombing negative ads. And not just mild negative ads, but “If Jesus came back to earth tomorrow, my opponent would punch him in the neck and fuck him in the ass” negative ads.
And for all the GOPs “Obambi is a cryptomarxist” bullshit, I think they realize deep down that the public like him in spite of their 24/7 smear campaign, and that he’s really goddamn competent at campaigning and they’re not going to to beat this guy with candidates that alienate voters and stumble over their own feet – and that’s all they have in the bullpen.
Ultimately, Santorum may simply be this round of not-Romney.
February 8th, 2012 at 1:58 am
@Alison: Yep, me too. Probably an exploit of the backend to dump some crap into the site templates.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:01 am
@SIA: I haven’t watched CNN in I don’t know how long, but I just flipped back on to catch some woman I don’t know all ecstatic over Rick Santorum and…. Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, I presume as a one-percenter for Romney, I just caught the end of the segment. Makes MSNBC bringing in Michael Steele and Nicole Wallace look respectable.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:02 am
@Yutsano: A few pics
February 8th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Rick is beside himself. He was so used to being the bottom for the entire campaign.
This clusterfuck couldn’t happen to a better pack of losers.
Also too, enough with the glitter.
I don’t want wingnuts to start fetus bombing or holy water bombing. Knock it off.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:04 am
The best thing is that now independent voters will get to know Santorum and after OvenMitt’s PAC gets through trashing him, they will really hate him too and say “WTF Republicans?” and vote to re-elect the president they know even if they don’t love him.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:05 am
Yes, knock off the glitter.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:07 am
@Alison:
Yep, I get it too. Could be that Washington Monthly’s site got hacked, could be a false positive. I’ve seen both happen.
Best to check it again tomorrow or the day after. It usually gets fixed in a day or two.
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February 8th, 2012 at 2:11 am
@Alison:
Same thing here. I read them earlier today, so whatever is causing that attack warning started later in the day.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:14 am
I checked, and there’s an injected IFRAME in their template. Common exploit, payload looks fairly innocuous right now (some crap from Eastern Europe) but until it’s fixed, I’d heed the warning, because the exploit can easily be swapped out for something with a worse payload.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:16 am
@pseudonymous in nc: Isn’t this the third or fourth time they’ve been hit? You would think after a while they’d go beyond fixing the last mess and start trying to prevent the next.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:18 am
What Mitt needs to turn things around is a charm offensive.
More extemporaneous, unscripted events is what the doctor ordered.
Speak from the heart Mitt, then you’ll win them over. (giggle)
February 8th, 2012 at 2:19 am
@Cacti: LET ROMNEY BE ROMNEY!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:21 am
@Cacti:
I’m not sure Rmoney needs to be more offensive.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:24 am
@MikeJ: Might I steal for wifey on Book of Faces? You shall be properly credited of course. :)
February 8th, 2012 at 2:32 am
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: LET ROMNEY BE R-MONEY!
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February 8th, 2012 at 2:33 am
@MikeJ: Not sure. If it is, they need to pay for a proper security audit to do log forensics and harden the system, and not rely on the unpaid interns to fix it.
Those kinds of injection attacks can be tough to pin down, especially if a site’s using custom code, but there’s a standard attack vector through Javascript, sometimes in cookies, sometimes in inline scripts, sometimes in the LikeMeOnFacebook shit.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:33 am
G’night, all! A pleasure as always.
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February 8th, 2012 at 2:34 am
I wish Molly Ivins were still with us. She’d be having so much fun right now….
February 8th, 2012 at 2:40 am
@Yutsano: Of course, anything for my favorite fake polygamist, even if she has (mostly) abandoned us.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:41 am
@Sarah Proud and Tall:
the Snark has been found
... doesn’t look like a Boojum …
February 8th, 2012 at 2:42 am
tolejaso
/ultra smug sideways smile
Romney cant win the general in colorado.
we have experience with the polygs.
there are two kinds of colorado voters with anti-mormon sentiment.
focus on the family evangelicals.
everyone else that isnt mormon.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:43 am
@Mary G:
Actually, they do pretty much love him. They just aren’t convinced that he’s doing good job.
That’s not great, but it’s fixable. And between a candidate they like but don’t think is doing a good job and a candidate they don’t like, they’ll go with the one they like. What’s awesome, is that Obama doesn’t even need to muss his hands with going negative – he can attack Mitt just by running Newt and Santorum debate clips.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:52 am
@pseudonymous in nc: Thanks – I’m not totally computer illiterate but I’m not that up on which warnings mean shit and which don’t, so I usually just err on the side OH FUCK CLOSE TAB NOW :P
February 8th, 2012 at 2:52 am
@joel hanes:
They usually don’t!
February 8th, 2012 at 2:54 am
I hope the glitter attacks end. Somebody or somebody’s kid is going to get glitter in the eye and really it’s not cool or funny or original. I hate Romney but that guy who attempted to glitter bomb him is a moron.
February 8th, 2012 at 2:58 am
@Martin: Dana Milbank’s column is all about Pres. Obama having fun with a marshmallow cannon a kid brought to the WH Science Fair and that it’s better to be lucky than good. I think he’s both. I feel more enthused than I have in a long, long time.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:02 am
Has veritas hanged himself by his balls yet ? Now that his candidate has.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 am
twitterdom
Rick Santorum has now won more states than Romney has and spent 30 million less doing it.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:30 am
Huh. Well, one explanation being offered up for Santorum over Mitt tonight, and for Mitt’s collapse over 2008 results is that in 2008, Romney was viewed as the conservative against McCain as the moderate, and therefore Mitt was somewhat more appealing as a result. This cycle Mitt is viewed as the moderate over Santorum and Newt as the conservative.
In a way that makes sense, but to really buy that we need to accept that 2012 Romney, who is clearly staking out more conservative positions than 2008 Romney still managed to move to the left of the electorate. That’s astonishing. Not that I’m surprised that the GOP has shifted that far right, but that the GOP thinks they’re going to win jack shit by doing so.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:37 am
@Martin: its waay simpler than that.
50% of the GOP is WECs now, up from 40% in 2008.
they wont vote mormon if there is another godbotherer running.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:52 am
There’s no Open Thread tonight, but may I be OT and say that Daniel Choi was kind of overbearing on the replay of The Ed Show?
I’m gay, and I’m cool with the fact no one responds to anything I write here, especially after midnight. Don’t blame anyone!
Choi was weirdly churlish and shouty, and I don’t know who elected him as the voice of gay America re: Prop 8. It was actually embarrasing, Choi barking at Ed about rights. I am far beyond wondering why the GLBT community depends on drama queens to make their case on national television. Choi honestly seems to have issues, I don’t know why he’s anyone’s spokesperson, he seems way more into the attention. Expressing this rigid “gay rights!” ideology without any subtlety, conversation, persuasion, talking about the issues as they are right now, day to day. I find Choi really unhelpful as a representative, but I guess we gay people have been conditioned to accept anyone who will defend us, and in the larger picture we have to salute the troops, coercivally. I don’t necessarily trust Dan Choi to speak for me, I think he might be a little unstable in the head with the attention.
Yay troops! Yay war. Choi doesn’t speak for me, and I’d bet anything there’s a police incident with him in the next 5 years. Some strange incident. Choi’s not my spokesperson, but I wish he had acquitted himself better on The Ed Show. No need for shouting.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:05 am
@Arundel:
You watched the Ed Show and found Dan Choi overbearing? Lord, have mercy!
/Uncle Jesse Katsopolis
You might as well have been watching Michael Moore interview Cindy Sheehan about her run against Pelosi.
See above for my unbeknownst, yet prescient analogy.
February 8th, 2012 at 4:15 am
@Arundel:
I worked very hard for the anti-war movement in the 60’s & at some point a group of very angry people rose out of the movement & seemed to take the lead. It was embarrassing to hear them use violet rhetoric and hate when our goal was supposed to be peace & non-violence. Part of it is anger at being ignored and abused when asking nicely some of it is just frustration for not being able to cross that imagined goal line. Sadly those folks became the face of the movement, partly because of spectacular stunts like bombings but also because they made better TV.
In retrospect I think some of the same rise in ‘angry young men’ can be seen in the civil rights movement. You can only ask to be treated as a human for so long before the anger over takes you, some people have a lower tolerance for abuse & rejection so they get there first.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:32 am
@MikeJ:
They actually started that late last week. You knew it was going to be a good night for ol frothy because Willard completely ignored Salamander & focused only on Santorum. Never thought it would be a sweep but the power of morans compel the GOP these days
February 8th, 2012 at 6:35 am
@Arundel: choi is a net negative for LGBT causes.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Had super hot pad Thai for lunch. Though I had to be awake at 0530, there couldn’t have been a better night to be up until 0100 shitting lava.
Gonna be a long day.
Funny…I knew rmoney couldn’t win MN in the general, I didn’t the MN repugs were as depraved as to vote en masse for frothy.
Good to know.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:55 am
@Martin: Hush or we’ll make you drive the 401 through the GTA during rush hour.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:21 am
@Lojasmo: Thank you for sharing.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:21 am
@Mary G:
I was at my local OFA HQ last night, where we recruited 5 new vols for my tiny little district. Giggling deferred til this AM.
@Martin:
I love you, man.
February 8th, 2012 at 8:48 am
@WaterGirl:
I think the punctuation could do with a few semi-colons, the addition of a couple of relative pronouns and an initial cap on a proprietary name:
There. Now it’s perfect.
/grammar pedant
February 8th, 2012 at 9:26 am
@Amir Khalid: Content, man, content! Though I can’t argue with any of your changes.
February 8th, 2012 at 10:20 am