Time for another Debate post…
By Dennis G. January 16th, 2012
Somehow, listening to the wingnut debate from the inmate state reminded me of this:
I’m listening on the radio and it sounds like there is a maximum concentration of asshole on the stage and in the audience. I don’t think the last ass whooping took. Where is Uncle Billy when you need him…
Perhaps it’s time for another Open Thread.
Cheers
Posted in Assholes, Election 2012
Scary crowd, and Newt knows exactly how to push all their hot little buttons.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
the reunion tour!
January 16th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Man, remember when we suddenly got a massive surge of “regulation” at the end of 2008/beginning of 2009, which caused the economic meltdown?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Distilled insanity, both on stage and off.
0% taxes and expand the military?
Do tell…
January 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
@kdaug: Well, in theory we could use the expanded military to plunder other countries and fund our government.
I shouldn’t suggest things like that; there’s a nontrivial chance that some GOP candidate will see it and seriously propose it.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Looking at the picture that’s atop Richard Adams’ liveblog now, of all the candidates, it seems the only one who’s at all acquainted with a tailor is Romney.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
This debate has been high comedy.
Hahahah R.Kelly pee on you.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
@Gin & Tonic: Someone on dkos pointed out that Santorum’s hands are about five shades lighter than his face. Either he has albino palms or his makeup artist is a mole for the Romney campaign.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
would be more than happy (actually would be quite eager) to head south and teach the boys down there yet another lesson.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
I was trying to keep up with the #scdebate twitter feed. Too fast to follow.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
@dmsilev: Careful, you could make the VP shortlist.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Newt’s hair sure is pretty tonight.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
@DCLaw1: Hmmm, tempting. Offer me enough wingnut welfare, and I might go for it.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@dmsilev: Ravaging other countries as well as us, isn’t that what our corporations are doing?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Some men just want to watch the world burn… :)
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
You knew it was South Carolina the moment Juan Williams uttered the word “Mexico”.
Vile crackers, the lot of them.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
@dmsilev:
No, you shouldn’t.
Unless your parakeet and eyepatch are in the mail.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Fox’s Twitter-meters for the candidates has one candidate consistently in the ‘Dodge’ category. Take a bow, Mittens. Especially on the tax question; it was literally off their charts.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
@dmsilev: I think they make you kill somebody.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
The stopped letting Juan Williams ask questions after the crowed informed them that Juan wasn’t white.
ETA: I spoke too soon.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
@Bob:
January 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Oh shit, that was funny.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
@gaz: Can I choose who?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
repeating my comment from downstairs:
lolwut?
Newt wants to create a Department of Lazy Moochers to deal with the poors so that one bureaucrat can tell them to go fuck themselves instead of having 235 bureaucrats do so.
Santorum seconds.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
@dmsilev: They look the same shade on the Guardian’s photo. But he’s wearing brown shoes. Ick.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
@dmsilev: As long as they’re under 12. This is the republican party boy, not a knitting circle!
Edit: I decided that was too offensive. Replace under 12, with brown.
Adding fvck these assholes. I’m done watching this shit.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
From The Economist live blog comes this:
So much crazy…
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Would love to get that General Sherman poster as a t-shirt.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
can we just pick the crazed racist and move on?
cause this shit is getting boooooooooooring.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Why is Santorum going after Paul? Their voters do not overlap.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
A nasty Americans for Prosperity ad attacking Obama for Solyndra and blaming him for the loss of 1100 jobs just ran on ABC.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
According to Perry the administration is already at war with SC, so they can hardly be blamed if they start firing shots!
Jesus, between him and Perry it really embarrasses me to be from the South sometimes.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
why does Santorum do anything? shits and giggles.
and Jesus.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
@Dennis G.: #26
[from The Economist]
Hee-hee! I was thinking that this crowd was kind of rowdy.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
As with all the other debates, I can’t bear to watch. No need to wade into the sewer to know how full of sh*t these idiots are.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
@dmsilev:
Consider that you could take advantage of the opportunity to sabotage their campaign. How could you pass it up? The only danger is that you’d run afoul of Poe’s Law.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Romney: “I was for gun control before I was against it”
January 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
Not even Newt?
what the hell is with this party lately?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I elected to watch the Eclipse Awards (Oscars for racehorses) instead. Woohoo Havre de Grace winning Horse of the Year, making it three years in a row a filly got the top honor.
Admittedly, not the most exciting ceremony, but I’m also not shrieking in rage as I suspect I would be watching the debate. So there’s that.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
From The Economist no less.
Too fucking right. I knew there was a reason I keep renewing. =)
January 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
@Little Boots:
Sorry, sweetheart. One of these jackasses stands an even chance of being “Leader Of The Free World”. And the world goes boom, boom, boom.
Football with consequences.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I think we could all get behind a public hanging.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
@kdaug:
free. I love that.
free.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Someone urgently needs to shrink Rick Perry’s vowels. They keep threatening to sweep away Newt Gingrich in a tide of molasses.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
@gaz: don’t speak with so much surety but we hope it won’t happen
January 16th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
And so the great wingnut mass-debation ends, with Newt bloviating. Strangely appropriate.
What will the next debate have for us? Candidates being invited to take turns firing a cannon at Fort Sumter?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson:
well, won’t be long now, actually.
It’s gonna be the money grubbing mormon whore.
that’s funny.
now it just seems inevitable, but a year ago, well, what a world that was.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
@Little Boots:
I wonder whether it would be treasonous to address El Supremo Romney as the Mafia Capitalist Elect?
January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Mitt Romney complained about his legal inability to demand that pro-Romney Super PACs take down attack ads. Unfortunately, his challengers were all too incompetent to ask him whether he therefore thinks a presidential candidate should have the authority to command a private entity or interest group to silence their own political speech.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
@Mike in NC: Go for it. It is yours…
January 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson:
honestly, sadly, it would probably be appreciated.
no shame in his game.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
@Nicole:
The horse probably has a more sensible platform.
Also too, those that watched the debate saw horses, too. Just the other end.
January 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
@Dennis G.:
They keep what they kill, in South Carolina
January 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Isn’t Baghdad Veritas going to swing by and tell us how much Romney knocked the Southern Racists’ socks off with his brilliant tales of being against abortion cause he wouldn’t sign a bill that had to do with embryos or his gallivanting about the country non-specifically hunting
varmintmooseno it was elk now that I think about it…you know with “friends” (You hunt with “friends”, right?), and who knows when that happened? Calenders are for the 99%!January 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
WOW, Juan Williams twisted himself into a pretzel trying to describe the audience’s reaction to his food stamp questions as anything other than hideous.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Skipped this debate to watch the KU v Baylor game. So far I am extremely happy with my choice.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Now watch Mitt pivot and start going for the center.
Oh yeah, they cannot, ever. they live in the bubble, they die in the bubble.
he is doomed.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@DCLaw1:
Give him time and he’ll commit seppuku for pestering Mr Gingrich with racist questions.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
@DCLaw1: Join The Modern Republican Party!
Because Marginalized People Aren’t Gonna Hate themselves, ya know!
Seriously, can Juan Williams even pretend this isn’t all about race anymore?
I don’t know who I’m most disgusted with – him, the candidates, the crowd… * shrug *
I think I need to shower.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Newt is going to have to apologize a long time to get back on the gravy train. sad.
he actually made sense for a hot second there.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
When the American hostages in Iran were released, a reporter asked “Would you go back to Iran?” One of the hostages replied “Yeah, in the nose of a B-52.”
It’s good the next Sherman will have that option in South Carolina.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Also skipped this debate, now watching the news that a condo blew up. Then noticed that it is snowing here. Maybe I shouldn’t go offline for holidays.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@Little Boots:
Apparently the GOBP thinks its still 1968, when Nixon could (and did) say one thing on the rubber chicken circuit seeking delegates, and something different, and much less alarming, in front of the big media during the general.
Its like they don’t know that such a thing as universal video archiving exists.
Keep babbling, Mittster.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@dmsilev:
I think this means that they like him.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
If there was a South Carolina Anti-Tourist Board, apparently they’d have a campaigns-worth of clips, from what I hear. Or maybe this is all part of clever plot to keep “undesirables” from moving to the state as well as driving those already there out.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
@efgoldman:
he’s doomed.
theoretically, he’s got a shot. the economy sucks and all.
but he’s mitt, the consummate asshole.
doomed.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Not that reason or logic has any place in right-wing debates, but I wonder if the following will ever occur to any of these geniuses. If criticizing Bain’s slashing jobs under Romney’s leadership is an assault on capitalism, what basis is there to ever criticize jobs being sent oversees, or, for that matter, refuse to allow Mexicans unfettered access to American jobs?
If the government should never get in the way of free market capitalism, shouldn’t we remove all government obstacles to cost-cutting by sending jobs oversees or allowing low-wage workers from other countries to flood our labor market?
Crickets, naturally.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
@srv:
If the ashes ain’t glowing, it ain’t Sath Cah’lina.
Sounds like a perfectly good state slogan to me.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
I hope this Alcatraz is good, anyway Hell On Wheels ended last night, I guess it was an Ok series. I am glad The Swede lives he is my favorite. Hey Justified starts tomorrow!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
After watching this debate I feel like I need to take a shower. While drinking something strong. And, honestly, the hatred that was on display in that audience just makes me feel sad, especially on Martin Luther King Day.
The truth though is that Newt Gingrich’s polling will likely go up in SC after the performance he gave, which tickled the worst of the conservative id.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
@Little Boots: And which one would that be?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
@DCLaw1: At what point did you start believing that they’d allow silly things like logic or reality get in the way of their precious, infallible ideology?
nm You were asking how they’d respond?
because soshulism, deficit obama moslem! and STFU that’s why,
=)
January 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
It’s dawning on me more and more that there’s a considerable segment of this country that is—totally not joking—objectively fascist. The fetishizing of violence, the over-the-top jingoism, the barely-concealed racism—these debates are just one outstretched hand away from a frickin’ Nuremburg rally.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
@Little Boots:
His handlers will try to keep him from ever being exposed to a situation where he has to ad lib, but even in 2012, that’s not possible. In fact its less possible because of ubiquitous video, as I mentioned above.
I wonder if he’ll try to weasel out of the debates, for that reason. Obama will shred him.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Would someone mind translating the first line of that General Sherman poster?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Not sure why, but I’m watching Sean Hannity play patty-cake with Romney now. Boy did he (and Fox News as a whole) dutifully fall in line behind the presumptive nominee.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
@SiubhanDuinne:
oh what the hell.
let’s say Mitt.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
@gaz: I know, I know.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
@efgoldman:
Can’t. He’s Mitt. He’ll charge into that lions’ den and get et.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
@Little Boots:
Seems unfair on the lions to me.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
@scav:
It’s run out of the state house, where they fly the Confederate flag (but no longer on the roof). The NAACP has successfully boycotted many sporting events in SC as a result in recent years.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
Dusts hands in satisfied fashion, having FTFY.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@Mike in NC:
So the President of that peculiar institution can be said to sit in the SCAT-Board seat?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@Canuckistani Tom: nit-diddlers – i think
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2.....ing-a-nit/
and
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2.....onth-cont/
it may be a balloon-juice specific term ;)
the SCV - all i can gather with any certitude is that South Carolina is part of it.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson: ’
they’re honored to play their part in the Mitt Martyrdom.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@Mr Stagger Lee: I quit watching Hell on Wheels about six episode in. The cliches just became too much.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@jonas: Next time there is a heinous crime, especially committed by an African American(well not necessarily heinous) check out the comments section, of your online newspaper. If the officials authorized draw and quartering, they would cheer it wildly.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
As described by Sullivan:
Normally, I’d call that a slip, but Luntz is known to be quite careful with language.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
@Dennis G., top
That is sheer fucking POETRY, that is.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
It sounded like calls to conservative duty: will the public hanging be averted?...some innocent passerby, we may not know until tomorrow
January 16th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
@SiubhanDuinne:
yeah, he’s pretty good.
In a nonDoug sorta way.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
@Little Boots:
I think they’ll be pleasantly surprised by the yielding texture and lack of inconvenient spinal structures. The taste might be another matter. Weak piss just doesn’t seem to win over the customers.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
@jonas:
Yeah. Scary crowds. And it doesn’t seem to matter where the debate is actually held.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
GOP debates really do give a whole new meaning to white noise, that’s for sure.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson:
true. this.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
@Canuckistani Tom:
Haley Barbour mentioned a couple of years ago that controversies about celebrating Confederate History month without any mention of slavery wasn’t worth didling a nit—a cute Southern expression for fuckin’ a bug. In light of that comment, “Nit Diddler” seemed be be a perfect descriptor for your modern neo-Confederate wankers.
SCV stands for Sons of Confederate Veterans. I hope this helps.
Cheers
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
@Hill Dweller: This is the GOP way of saying “I am rubber and you are glue”. It is meant to deflect from Romney. But still the ad is rather stupid. Logically, it doesn’t make sense because Obama wasn’t the one running the company. Nevertheless, one should respond by saying that the auto industry is alive and kicking thanks to Obama.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
ya mean, almost president Haley Barbour?
hey what the hell was with all the pardons?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
FTFY on Bobo in Lesser Carolina: ” I sometimes wonder if the Republican Party has become the receding roar of white America as it pines for a way of life that
will never returnnever actually existed.”January 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
@Mike in NC:
There is a “William T. Sherman American Tour” t-shirt, with a list of battle dates on the back in concert fashion. I would not be brave enough to wear it in the south.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
what the Southern Gentleman would make of David Brooks, oh so sad. and he knows it. even sadder.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I have to say, if anyone even mentions not voting because it doesn’t matter and Obama is as bad as the GOP - I, for one, would like to nail them into a chair and force them to watch that debate for 24 solid hours until they start to realize what a goddamn, fucking stupid thing they have just said.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Sullivan:
I have to live with these fucking people.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
@Linda Featheringill: Here is article about the Feds, delaying an execution in Ohio, and the comments section.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson:
I really, really hope people got over that stupid bullshit in 2010. It’s gonna be hard enough for the people who DO wanna vote and have to jump through hoops.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson:
#93
:-)
January 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Thank goodness college basketball and Australian Open tennis was on so I could avoid this like the plague. Sounds like I missed a “fun” one, huh?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Did the audience really boo when Mitt’s father’s Mexico birth was mentioned?
Wait, this is the guy ahead in Mexico?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
@pseudonymous in nc:
Much obliged!
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Sons of Confederate Veterans, I assume. These people.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
@MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson: a couple of threads down, some halfwit was still justifying his/her vote for Nader, because there was no difference between Gore and Bush. Michael Moore is bleating it again about Obama. There was a guy at a blog I used to read who defended his vote for Nader—after Iraq, Gitmo, Katrina,—because Tipper Gore wanted to put stickers on motley crue albums.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Does anyone in England do this?
Does the House of York never shut the fuck up about the glorious cause?
Cause that shit gets tired.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
@Mr Stagger Lee:
Execution in Ohio:
Damn.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
@jonas:
I don’t think the audience is fascist; I suspect they are shitfaced. The local Coors distributor is dry.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
We’re also talking about Myrtle Beach, aka the redneck riviera.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
We’re also talking about Myrtle Beach, aka the redneck riviera.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
@Mike in NC:
More so than when they booed a gay soldier, cheered Rick Perry’s record of executions, or applauded Ron Paul for saying that if the sick couldn’t afford insurance, they should just die, and reduce the surplus population. Sully gots a short memory.
ETA: I didn’t actually see the debate, just read the comments here. I guess this was the one with the most overt racism, wasn’t it?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
So, was Mitt’s father a U.S. citizen? Was he here legally? Or was Mitt an anchor baby?
January 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
@Dennis G.:
Wow. They suck. I forgot about them.
Umm yeah – Canuckstani – SCV are not decent people they traded sheets for confederate army uniforms, is all.
Same basic principle.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
I’ll happily throw him an anchor if he feels he was deprived of one in his childhood.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
@The Dangerman: #113
Let’s everybody get drunk and go to a political debate. What could go wrong?
ETA:
To me, they sounded like drunk fascists. Seriously.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Personally, I think the way Juan licked the boots of everyone was the worst part.
I kinda wondered why he wasn’t wearing a vest and a bow tie.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
wait, is his father a god now? with his own planet?
does that count as illegal immigrant at this point?
it’s all so confusing.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Preview of the next debate.
January 16th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
@gnomedad:
Nah, this is what’s in store:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
January 16th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
@jonas:
And that is the real danger of the place we’re in. Those fascist tendencies can be stoked. Are being stoked.
It’s all fun to joke about the clown car and heading for a ditch or cliff. But they may drag all of us with ‘em.
Double plus ungood.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:01 am
@The Dangerman:
Excluded middle. Being drunk may bring people’s repressed feelings to the surface, but only if those feelings were in them to start with. So if the crowd acts like a bunch of fascists when they’re drunk, they think like fascists even when they’re sober.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:03 am
@pseudonymous in nc: “We’re also talking about Myrtle Beach, aka the redneck riviera.”
Gulf Shores, Alabama
Myrtle Beach probably gets people from New Jersey, and some college students.
Gulf Shores only has waves before a Hurricane.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:07 am
@Little Boots: The haven’t gotten over it, if the comment threads on some of my Facebook friends are an indicator.
“Obama is a corporatist sell-out so I’m voting irrelevant minor party.”
Thankfully, most of these people live in Texas or New York where by dint of the Electoral College, they won’t do as much harm.
But there’s a winger fringe over here, too, ya know. It’s just rather obviously not 27% of America.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:10 am
We were vacationing in Myrtle Beach in the Summer of 2008. We were eating in an excellent barbecue restaurant right after McCain chose the Wasilla grifter. Of course FOX was on and all of a sudden folks started going on and on re the wonder that was Sarah and how she and McCain were going to “whip that boy’s ass” as the 4 of us from NYC shot glances at one another and started eating very quickly. Not pleasant. Place sounded like that fucking nutso debate audience.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:18 am
@Little Boots:
There are the Orange parades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Walk
January 17th, 2012 at 12:18 am
@catclub:
MB exists mainly for golfers, especially the Canadians who flock there in the winter and spring. Still a backwards Bible Belt armpit with few redeeming qualities.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@Linda Featheringill:
It’s been settled—at least among polite people & lawyers—that the offspring of an American is American, be they born in Mexico, Panama (like McCain), the exotic semi-state of Hawaii, or Kenya.
I think it’s more interesting that the foundational Romney skittered South to avoid giving up his
female serfssister-wives, and his kid skittered back north when Mexico starting nationalizing the property of rich gringos. Skittering and flags-of-convenience seem to be encoded in Willard’s very genes!January 17th, 2012 at 12:33 am
@JCT:
Myrtle Beach is a redneck shithole by any standard. But at that same time (2008) we were visiting Mineral, VA —Cantor’s district and the place that had an earthquake not long ago—and at the general store where we stopped for gas, some good old boys were debating the fine points of “Obama this, nigger that”, so we backed out quietly and found another place to fuel.
We lived in NoVA for about 20 years and it bears little resemblance to the rest of the state, which without federal contracts from across the river would be friggin’ Mississippi.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:40 am
@Little Boots: Sort of. They’re called “Scots.”
January 17th, 2012 at 12:43 am
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I would have guessed that the boos weren’t for the idea of Mexico, but for the idea of a “gotcha” question from the liberal media, like the brouhaha over Kerry and Edwards referring to Cheney’s gay daughter.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
@Canuckistani Tom: The difference is, though, that the Orangists won.
January 17th, 2012 at 12:55 am
@Anne Laurie:
Yep, Romney comes from a family of American outlaws that hid out in Mexico until it got too hot for them there. When they slipped back over the Rio Grande they got by on public assistance until they were able to get work. Apparently little George Romney, then 5 years old, didn’t have to work as a school janitor so that they’d deserve that public assistance. Newt would not approve.
January 17th, 2012 at 1:37 am
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
...
Actually, Tipper Gore was a censorship loving idiot, who flogged the idea of criminalizing artists. I have no problem with ratings, but read up a little on the PMRC, Frankenchrist, Michael Guarino, etc
I’ll climb off of my soap box now, but I * can not bear * that woman.
January 17th, 2012 at 1:45 am
@dmsilev:
That’s not theory, that’s long established American practice.
January 17th, 2012 at 3:55 am
New Rule: If you boo when someone suggests America’s foreign policy should be guided by the Golden Rule, you don’t get to say America’s a Christian nation anymore. That goes double for saying the country’s founded on Judeo-Christian values.
I mean, folks, we’re talking foundational, red-letter-print stuff here.
January 17th, 2012 at 4:45 am
@Little Boots:
The white rose will raise again!
Don’t know about the other quitters, but I am still an Yorkist.
January 17th, 2012 at 5:14 am
@jonas:
You’re right, but here’s the saving grace:
That portion of the country is OLD. Fascism requires troops, not voters. They don’t have them, and aren’t anywhere close to having them. The militias are tiny and disorganized and hate each other.
They’re still fascist in ideology and attitude, but their day is already passing. Their only weapon to screw up the country is elections, so that’s where we need to beat them.
January 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
[...] At Balloon Juice, Dennis G. responds with this: [...]
January 17th, 2012 at 9:00 am
@FlipYrWhig:
Having spent 11 years living next to Lesser Carolina, I think you’re giving them far too much credit for nuance.
Reflexive tribal racism is the mother’s milk of the Palmetto State.
January 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
@Hal: indeed they did.
January 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@Joseph Nobles: you cudlips still dont get it.
America was founded as a protestant nation.
evangelizing and proselytizing are why we got royally fucked in Iraq and A-stan.
you dont get to have the unicorn-fart-smelling christians you wish you had…..you get the (50% of the GOP base) WECs there are.
January 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I hope the Obama campaign runs an ad just showing how ugly the republican primary voters are and what their vision of America is. I think people will recoil against them.
I also hope Obama runs a scorched earth campaign based on cultural issues. Democrats have now actually won the culture wars; they just need to deliver the coup de grace.
These republican debates are amazing.
January 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Apparently BJ just got it’s hall monitor back…
January 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@gaz: oh, im not the hall monitor. Allan is.
I think peeps should say w/e they want…..they just hafta be able to DEFEND it.
;)
I think you are a JAFI, like AL.
i personally think the Israelis next move is much more interesting than your nuanced atrocity equivalence.
Bibi thinks Obama is a one term president.
January 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
@dmsilev:
His hands are down his own pants a lot,...
January 17th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@Samara Morgan:
I never said you were. I was referring to another commenter. They know who they are.
January 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am
@Samara Morgan: And if you think I’m JAFI, you’re paranoid.
Also too, thanks for completely misrepresenting me and my position. It’s par for what I’d expect from coming from you.
January 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
@gaz: Hey, some of us got enrolled as kids. Yeah, I’m one of them. About the furthest thing from a sheet-wearing Klan member you’ll ever meet.
January 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@gaz: oh pardon….you, like AL, are stealth JAFIs.
bettah?
i accurately represented your position.
and given the opportunity, you didnt back down. You “dared” to make a hatelist of of taliban monster crimes.
im only gettin started.
January 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
oh, i heart Skrillex so much.
Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
January 17th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Kill Everybody.
January 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
what dubstep sounds like to
parentsballoon-juice.January 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
@Frankensteinbeck:
There are plenty of strapping young Christian Warriors like Tim Tebow available in the gene/meme-pool, however.
Never underestimate the ability of the elderly to get others to do their fighting for them.
January 17th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
@Samara Morgan: Thank you for telling me who I secretly am, and what I secretly believe. I wasn’t sure before.
But seriously, fuck you – you paranoid twit.
January 17th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@The Moar You Know: In my opinion that’s the even more insipid part of it.
If they’d just go back to straight up cross burning (the lot of them) we’d move on.
Anyone who calls the Civil War the Northern War of Aggression, blames the 3/5’s compromise for marginalizing black people, or denies that slavery was a huge factor in the civil war might as well be a klansman – and SCV is RIFE with these people. Many are former klansman or at the very least sympathizers.
I can appreciate the fact that not every single person that may have been indoctrinated into a chapter may not be a racist, but I’ll not apologize for telling it like it is.
SCV is a racist organization – a hate group. It’s a little softer around the edges than the klan – but I’m with SPLC on this.
And when I’m explaining it to a Canadian who just may not have the nuanced grasp of race relations and the Civil war in this country, I don’t mind simplifying as I did.
I’m sorry you were indocrinated into that organization when you were younger – and I’m glad it didn’t seem to make you a hater – (and probably not a holocaust denier or slavery apologist either) but I just calls em like I sees em. That organization (even if it means something else too) will be forever tainted by the stain of slavery, as is the rest of the confederacy/confederate nonsense.
January 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@gaz:
Careful gaz. Ask for hard data to back up any of her various bullshyt claims, and she’ll start accusing you of having an ‘agenda’.
Wallah!
January 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
@Judas Escargot: It won’t get that far. I’ve made a commitment to quota my troll responses pretty tightly. (shooting for maybe 2 or 3 every 50 comments, unless I can keep them locked into a grapple with me in a stale thread – so they leave everyone else alone =P heh).
I’ve hit that quota with m_c.
Ooops, I just showed my hand.
January 17th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@gaz: I should be clear my post a bit:
The desire to purge the SCV of racism, as expressed by Gilbert Jones was admirable, but it was made in vain. The confederacy was and will always be about slavery. You can’t purge bigots from an organization that has white supremacy at it’s core.
The racists will never leave the SCV. You can’t separate racism and the confederacy. That cancer metastasized well over a century ago.
January 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
@gaz: i got you accurately.
you went right from marines pissing on corpses to how awful the Taliban are.
then you doubled down and “dared” to reiterate your posistion.
@Judas Escargot: back up your bulshytt claim that hispanics are gunna go GOP.
i allus back up my positions.
if you have data showing latinos falling off from Obama, other than your stupid christian magical thinking, cough it up.
January 17th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@Samara Morgan:
Didn’t say they ‘are gunna go GOP’. I said that the left shouldn’t just assume they’ll stay loyal to the Democrats out of habit for all time. Just as white working-class voting patterns changed in 1980 after over half a century with the Democrats, any other demographic is just as susceptible to change.
Gave you links yesterday: There’s a definite, measurable shift to the Evangelical sects. Whether or not this latest batch of Newcomers shifts politically towards the right over time like most other Evangelicals do is up to the Democrats, their messaging and their policies.
And I’m not Christian, BTW.
January 17th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@Judas Escargot: “measurable shift” to evangelical sects != voting republican, especially while the GOP is fervently anti-immigrant and anti-hispanic.
there is NO SHIFT to the GOP evident in the Pew data set i linked.
AND….black evangelicals vote democrat. Only WHITE evangelicals vote GOP.
there is NO reason to believe brown evangelicals would vote GOP.
Evo theory of culture 101; race trumps religion.
January 17th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@gaz:
Presumably you are referring to me as a “hall monitor” because I quoted all your abusive rhetoric from a single thread?
You could have just said “yeah, that was asinine, sorry”, but you chose to double-down and look even worse.
You obviously have quite a track record of abusive rhetoric.
January 17th, 2012 at 11:28 pm