I remember John McCain saying he’d chase bin Laden to the gates of hell, unless the gates were in Pakistan in which case he’d let ’em go.
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RossInDetroit
Wasn’t OBL the wealthy offspring of a Saudi family with a construction business? He might well have been able to buy Mitt and make him serve tea.
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Soonergrunt
What Romney would really do is buy Al Qaeda, fire all the underlings and suicide bombers, and make sure that Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri had golden parachutes or seats on the board of Bain Capital.
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Chris
I can’t wait until President Romney decides to fire the American public, replace us with lower-wage foreign workers, and tell us to get off “his” lawn land.
(And if Romney isn’t a career politician, it’s only because he has so much money he can afford to lose race after race without denting his hair-care budget.)
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freelancer
What Romney would really do is buy Al Qaeda, fire all the underlings and suicide bombers, and make sure that Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri had golden parachutes.
(And if Romney isn’t a career politician, it’s only because he has so much money he can afford to lose race after race without denting his hair-care budget.)
On another blog there was a link to a Weekly Standard (!) piece about how Mitt Romney ran in 22 “elections” (mainly primaries) and lost 17 of them. Not a great track record.
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Omnes Omnibus
@freelancer: Without clicking on the link, it’s the coked-up douche from “Die Hard?”
@Mike in NC: It doesn’t make much sense to elect someone who is essentially failing upwards into the presidency.
Jus’ sayin’, America.
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some guy
I like being able to sire people.
I like being able to hire people.
I like being able to dire people.
I like being able to mire people.
I like being able to tire people.
I like being able to wire people.
I like being able to ire people.
I like being able to fucking fire people.
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Suffern ACE
@Mike in NC: Back in my home state, we have this guy who basically ran for every office for awhile on any party line he could get. He got the reputation as kind of a crank you didn’t want to be around(LaRouche connections would do that for anyone) and not some kind of eccentric lovable loser.
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Villago Delenda Est
There is a reason why guys like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Dick Cheney didn’t serve in their generation’s war.
Every last one of these assholes would have been fragged.
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adamchaz
This has always confused me. In 2008 Romney couldn’t beat McCain who couldn’t beat Obama. In 2012 all of a sudden the guy who lost to the guy that lost to Obama is supposed to be able to beat Obama.
@adamchaz: well you have to remember that the R’s have been ambitiously assiduous in doing their best to keep the economy in the dumpster and to blame every transgression large and small on the President regardless of actual cause and effect. When you saw the R’s returned to control of the Congress in 2010, why not believe that you can continue to fool all of the people all of the time, you’ve got a complicit media and a majority of the money.
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The Dangerman
Comment 1: Romney wouldn’t have caught Bin Laden.
Comment 2: He would have bought al Qaeda and fired him.
What did Bin Laden or Al Queda have to do with either cutting taxes on the rich or cutting entitlements for the poor?
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adamchaz
It’s like teams that keep hiring Wade Phillips and Norv Turner as their head football coach.
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DCLaw1
[Apologies for cribbing my own comment from the other thread.]
The reason Romney’s “fire people” comment resonates, out of context or not, is because it fits with everyone’s overall image of the man. Which is to say, the blowback against the remark is not the disease, but a symptom – a symptom that not only reflects the disease, but aggravates it further.
This is a serious problem for Romney. If the economy continues to improve, even at a slow pace, he really will have difficulty in the general.
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Suffern ACE
@DCLaw1: The firing thing works as it is the only thing about him that makes him look like a he-man “decider.” He flip flops on every other position based on expediency and is really a passionless douche when he speaks. So don’t write off the macho appeal to those voters who want to find macho appeal, somewhere, anywhere, in a republican candidate.
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pseudonymous in nc
He’d have arranged a leveraged buyout with loan guarantees from the ISI.
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pseudonymous in nc
He’d have arranged a leveraged buyout with loan guarantees from the ISI.
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DCLaw1
@Suffern ACE: Normally I’d agree, at least with the general argument that the GOP base loves them some Decider who creates by destroying, but in this case, in this economic climate, the target of macho decisiveness seems a little too much like themselves, and the image of Romney deciding is a bit too much like… Romney at Bain.
The proposal to draft her in place of President Obama this year is preposterous. It exaggerates his vulnerability and discounts Hillary’s loyalty. But the idea that she should replace Joe Biden as Obama’s running mate in 2012 is something else. It has been kicking around on the blogs for more than a year without getting any traction, mainly because it has been authoritatively, emphatically dismissed by Hillary, Biden and Team Obama.
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It’s time to take it seriously.
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…THAT leaves the delicate question of ditching Joe Biden. He is not a dazzling campaigner, and — five years Hillary’s senior — he is not Obama’s successor. But he is a loyal and accomplished public servant who deserves to be treated with honor.
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A political scientist I know proposes the following choreography: In the late winter or early spring, Hillary steps down as secretary of state to rest and write that book. The president assigns Biden — the former chairman of Senate Foreign Relations — to add State to his portfolio, making him the most powerful vice president in history. Come the party convention in September, Obama swallows his considerable pride and invites a refreshed Hillary to join the ticket. Biden keeps State. The musicians play “Happy Days Are Here Again” as if they really mean it.
I saw this in truncated fashion at Democratic Underground, so the reader doesn’t realize that whacked-out musical chair scenario comes at the very end. So you have to slog through a lot of mush to get to the point where Obama has to appoint Biden as Secretary of State while retaining him as Vice President in order for all of this to work out to everybody’s satisfaction. Such epic trollery is to be gaped at, but not admired.
If the economy continues to improve, even at a slow pace, he really will have difficulty in the general.
As soon as Romney has to put two sentences together that aren’t ad hominem attacks while sharing a debate stage with Obama, he will have difficulty.
Assuming Romney gets that far.
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FlipYrWhig
Romney wouldn’t catch bin Laden because they’re both venture capitalists and scions of wealth. They probably shared brandy at the headquarters of the Carlyle Group.
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amk
The first votes in the nation’s first primary have been cast in Dixville Notch, N.H., resulting in a tie between Jon Huntsman Jr. and Mitt Romney in the Republican race.
Each received two votes apiece, with one vote each for Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul.
President Obama won all three votes cast in the Democratic primary.
… Obama has to appoint Biden as Secretary of State while retaining him as Vice President in order for all of this to work out to everybody’s satisfaction.
I can just imagine Biden poking his head into the oval office and saying, “Hey, Bill Keller says I can have VP and State. What do you think, Mr. President?”
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GregB
So the candidate that won the most votes in Dixville Notch for the Republican primary is Barack Obama!
@GregB: LOL. I’m wreck these days, and I know it would just be a flame war of epic proportions, but…having Barack Obama win the Republican delegates from Romney would be awesome.
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amk
cbs survey – 58 percent of Republican primary voters want more presidential choices, while just 37 percent say they are satisfied with the current field. The percentage of Republican primary voters that wants more choices has increased 12 percentage points since October.
My understanding is that the two towns have a total of around 40-50 registered voters. The Republican voters voted in the Republican Primary, and the Democratic voters voted for Obama in the Democratic Primary.
@freelancer: yup. Contrary to public opinion, Obama did not beat willard in the repub primary… Not yet anyway.
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amk
shouldn’t bill keller be more worried about saving his grey lady than obama ?
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JGabriel
@amk: Tain’t Keller’s no more. Keller retired to columny, and Jill Abramson is running the place now.
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KG
@Joseph Nobles: Then of course, there’s the whole problem of such an arraignment likely being completely unconstitutional. If the Vice-President is a member of Congress (technically true as he is President of the Senate and occasionally casts votes), then he can’t hold another position in the Admnistration.
@Omnes Omnibus: OT, but a fun fact I recently learned about that awesome movie Die Hard: It was originally written as “Commando 2”, but when Arnold turned it down, they re-wrote it and voila, “Die Hard”.
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MikeJ
I remember John McCain saying he’d chase bin Laden to the gates of hell, unless the gates were in Pakistan in which case he’d let ’em go.
RossInDetroit
Wasn’t OBL the wealthy offspring of a Saudi family with a construction business? He might well have been able to buy Mitt and make him serve tea.
Soonergrunt
What Romney would really do is buy Al Qaeda, fire all the underlings and suicide bombers, and make sure that Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri had golden parachutes or seats on the board of Bain Capital.
Chris
I can’t wait until President Romney decides to fire the American public, replace us with lower-wage foreign workers, and tell us to get off “his”
lawnland.(And if Romney isn’t a career politician, it’s only because he has so much money he can afford to lose race after race without denting his hair-care budget.)
freelancer
Osama…Bubby! I’m your white knight!
Mike in NC
@Chris:
On another blog there was a link to a Weekly Standard (!) piece about how Mitt Romney ran in 22 “elections” (mainly primaries) and lost 17 of them. Not a great track record.
Omnes Omnibus
@freelancer: Without clicking on the link, it’s the coked-up douche from “Die Hard?”
ETA: Excellent.
PeakVT
@Mike in NC: It doesn’t make much sense to elect someone who is essentially failing upwards into the presidency.
Jus’ sayin’, America.
some guy
I like being able to sire people.
I like being able to hire people.
I like being able to dire people.
I like being able to mire people.
I like being able to tire people.
I like being able to wire people.
I like being able to ire people.
I like being able to fucking fire people.
Suffern ACE
@Mike in NC: Back in my home state, we have this guy who basically ran for every office for awhile on any party line he could get. He got the reputation as kind of a crank you didn’t want to be around(LaRouche connections would do that for anyone) and not some kind of eccentric lovable loser.
Villago Delenda Est
There is a reason why guys like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Dick Cheney didn’t serve in their generation’s war.
Every last one of these assholes would have been fragged.
adamchaz
This has always confused me. In 2008 Romney couldn’t beat McCain who couldn’t beat Obama. In 2012 all of a sudden the guy who lost to the guy that lost to Obama is supposed to be able to beat Obama.
piratedan
@adamchaz: well you have to remember that the R’s have been ambitiously assiduous in doing their best to keep the economy in the dumpster and to blame every transgression large and small on the President regardless of actual cause and effect. When you saw the R’s returned to control of the Congress in 2010, why not believe that you can continue to fool all of the people all of the time, you’ve got a complicit media and a majority of the money.
The Dangerman
What did Bin Laden or Al Queda have to do with either cutting taxes on the rich or cutting entitlements for the poor?
adamchaz
It’s like teams that keep hiring Wade Phillips and Norv Turner as their head football coach.
DCLaw1
[Apologies for cribbing my own comment from the other thread.]
The reason Romney’s “fire people” comment resonates, out of context or not, is because it fits with everyone’s overall image of the man. Which is to say, the blowback against the remark is not the disease, but a symptom – a symptom that not only reflects the disease, but aggravates it further.
This is a serious problem for Romney. If the economy continues to improve, even at a slow pace, he really will have difficulty in the general.
Suffern ACE
@DCLaw1: The firing thing works as it is the only thing about him that makes him look like a he-man “decider.” He flip flops on every other position based on expediency and is really a passionless douche when he speaks. So don’t write off the macho appeal to those voters who want to find macho appeal, somewhere, anywhere, in a republican candidate.
pseudonymous in nc
He’d have arranged a leveraged buyout with loan guarantees from the ISI.
pseudonymous in nc
He’d have arranged a leveraged buyout with loan guarantees from the ISI.
DCLaw1
@Suffern ACE: Normally I’d agree, at least with the general argument that the GOP base loves them some Decider who creates by destroying, but in this case, in this economic climate, the target of macho decisiveness seems a little too much like themselves, and the image of Romney deciding is a bit too much like… Romney at Bain.
Joseph Nobles
Sweet Jesus, Bill Keller got into the Creme de Menthe again.
I saw this in truncated fashion at Democratic Underground, so the reader doesn’t realize that whacked-out musical chair scenario comes at the very end. So you have to slog through a lot of mush to get to the point where Obama has to appoint Biden as Secretary of State while retaining him as Vice President in order for all of this to work out to everybody’s satisfaction. Such epic trollery is to be gaped at, but not admired.
JGabriel
@DCLaw1:
As soon as Romney has to put two sentences together that aren’t ad hominem attacks while sharing a debate stage with Obama, he will have difficulty.
Assuming Romney gets that far.
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FlipYrWhig
Romney wouldn’t catch bin Laden because they’re both venture capitalists and scions of wealth. They probably shared brandy at the headquarters of the Carlyle Group.
amk
The first votes in the nation’s first primary have been cast in Dixville Notch, N.H., resulting in a tie between Jon Huntsman Jr. and Mitt Romney in the Republican race.
Each received two votes apiece, with one vote each for Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul.
President Obama won all three votes cast in the Democratic primary.
JGabriel
@Joseph Nobles:
I can just imagine Biden poking his head into the oval office and saying, “Hey, Bill Keller says I can have VP and State. What do you think, Mr. President?”
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GregB
So the candidate that won the most votes in Dixville Notch for the Republican primary is Barack Obama!
JGabriel
@GregB: Seriously? Link, please.
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gaz
My wife just found this:
http://cdn4.diggstatic.com/story/paul_krugman_is_tired_of_trying_to_reason_with_you_people/o.png
heh.
GregB
Post # 24 has the link.
Suffern ACE
@DCLaw1: Well, it appeals to someone. Hey look! Our side is swinging its dick, too, and is ready to strike “At Any Time.” “Damn the consequences”.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-10/obama-prepared-to-use-force-to-stop-nuclear-iran-former-adviser-ross-says.html
Suffern ACE
@GregB: LOL. I’m wreck these days, and I know it would just be a flame war of epic proportions, but…having Barack Obama win the Republican delegates from Romney would be awesome.
amk
cbs survey – 58 percent of Republican primary voters want more presidential choices, while just 37 percent say they are satisfied with the current field. The percentage of Republican primary voters that wants more choices has increased 12 percentage points since October.
Talk about voter enthu.
amk
noot’s StopRomneysPiousBaloney.com.
Go noot. Bomb, bomb, bomb mittens.
JGabriel
amk:
“Sarah! Sarah!”
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JGabriel
@GregB: D’oh. Thanks.
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freelancer
@GregB:
@Suffern ACE:
My understanding is that the two towns have a total of around 40-50 registered voters. The Republican voters voted in the Republican Primary, and the Democratic voters voted for Obama in the Democratic Primary.
Joseph Nobles
@JGabriel:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/obama-facepalm.jpg
amk
@JGabriel: you betcha. also. too
amk
@freelancer: yup. Contrary to public opinion, Obama did not beat willard in the repub primary… Not yet anyway.
amk
shouldn’t bill keller be more worried about saving his grey lady than obama ?
JGabriel
@amk: Tain’t Keller’s no more. Keller retired to columny, and Jill Abramson is running the place now.
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KG
@Joseph Nobles: Then of course, there’s the whole problem of such an arraignment likely being completely unconstitutional. If the Vice-President is a member of Congress (technically true as he is President of the Senate and occasionally casts votes), then he can’t hold another position in the Admnistration.
GregB
Sorry for any confusion.
Chuck Butcher
It didn’t take a lot of words to dispose of it. (Keller)
JGabriel
@Chuck Butcher:
You’re too kind. It’s one of those rare pieces that exceeds one’s expectations of stupidity.
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Chuck Butcher
@JGabriel:
I’ll not quibble with your estimation.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: OT, but a fun fact I recently learned about that awesome movie Die Hard: It was originally written as “Commando 2”, but when Arnold turned it down, they re-wrote it and voila, “Die Hard”.