Suck on this
By DougJ, Head of Infidelity December 21st, 2011
The more I follow politics, the more I like it when libruls do things like this:
You know, people with kids are driving by. And you know there are little kids who are 8, 9, 10 years old who are old enough to be able to read that and might say, ‘Mommy, what does that mean?’” said Andrea Lombard, a Sauk County supervisor and first vice chairwoman of the Republican Party of Sauk County. “Well, how does Mommy explain that? I’m not sure.”
I realize I’m in the tiny minority of liberals, even here, who like it when liberals put up mean signs, and when tv bands play mean songs about fascist presidential candidates, and when bloggers say mean things about recently deceased misogynist war-mongers. But right-wing fuckheads shove Fox News in our faces everywhere we go, so fuck them if they can’t take a joke.
Standing up to the brownshirts every once in a while isn’t such a bad idea, in my opinion.
Posted in Kochsuckers
Nice.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
December 21st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
My message to Andrea Lombard:
Feel free to find a fire to go die in, fascist.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Amen.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I’m split on this. On the one hand I agree with you completely, but the other hand has the kid question.
It’s like this morning radio program I like to listen to. The two hosts are very entertaining, in an adult humor kind of way, but when my kid is in the car, I don’t have that station on.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
I have a slight difference of opinion—attacking is good, but dirty words give wingnuts the self-righteousness card to play, so I say be nasty but keep it PG. It’s just not worth letting them whimper “BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!” while Lo-Information Voter Man looks on and tut-tuts in agreement.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Dang, I stayed there 25 or so years ago when visiting the Dells. It was a dump, but an affordable, family dump. Good on them for standing up. Based on this, I’d stay there again, dump or not.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
It’s wrong to mock the wingnuts at this special time of year when they celebrate their Holy Trinity: Beck, Hannity, & Limbaugh. “Oh, come all ye faithful…”
December 21st, 2011 at 12:07 pm
@cathyx: @SteveM:
I see what you’re saying, but the name is actually pronounced “Coke” anyway, right?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Without my glasses, it’s the “4 Winos Motel”. Looks like “Kochsucker” is spelled correctly, though.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:09 pm
The problem isn’t how to explain it to your kids. That part is easy. The reason you try to keep your kids away from dirty words is that they have a tendency to start repeating them.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:09 pm
The sign is clear about who they mean. It’s good.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:10 pm
They “shove Fox News” in your face? You know TVs come with more than one channel, right?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@DougJ: Don’t be fatuous, Jeffrey.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:10 pm
“Well dear, sometimes when a politician loves a billionaire’s money very much...”
December 21st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
@DougJ: But a kid would phonetically pronounce it. And that is very close to what they’ve probably heard dad call the other drivers when they’re in the car.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@delphi_ote:
Do you ever go out in public to places where other people control the television?
EDIT: I don’t mean that sarcastically, I fly a lot, meet friends for drinks in bars a lot, etc. so I may be subjected to more of this than others.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Double-entendres have too much nuance for people who only see in black and white.
We must be more sensitive to this
December 21st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
It’s a big country, there’s room for malice and bad feeling—particularly when it’s done with some imagination.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
@delphi_ote: You know TVs exist in more than just your house, right? Like at the bank, the airport, the gym?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
I just went to their website and sent them an email thanking them for their courage in doing this. I can imagine the hate mail they will be getting.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
I believe the answer I was routinely given was: “I’ll explain it to you when you’re a little older, honey.” Wow, that was hard. Funny how conservatives think children can be lied to about Santa Claus, God, and sex etc., but are inexplicably unable to take that tack with regards to anything that they thing might harm their children’s fragile ears.
On a related note: children are old and mature enough to work at Walmart but can’t possibly handle sex.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
This is pretty much the only time I’ll ever quote The Nuge:
“If they can’t take a joke, then fuck ‘em.”
December 21st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I love it, but then I was a hippie in my youth.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Only libruls think that this kind of thing is “standing up to the brownshirts.”
It is funny, though.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DougJ, I am disappoint.
Have you not learned yet that we must we must never stoop to the level of barbarians in asserting our political consciences? Next thing you know, Republicans will be calling us mean things on the teevee, and it will make people cry.
No, the only thing to do is like the armadillo: Roll up into a ball of mild, POLITE disagreement until such time as they can realize our common interests. Whatever they are.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Seems like they might get into more trouble for ripping off Gumby.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
The kids are going to learn to swear, with our without the signs and the radio.
We feel it’s our obligation as liberal parents to teach our daughter to swear only at appropriate moments (most)- with style and conviction.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
How many pearl-clutchers gasped every time Rush or Palin or their ilk was on-air or television whining that “Obama wants to shove this down my throat?”
December 21st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
How is that sign not a Gumby copyright infringement?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I love this
December 21st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Hmm. I guess it’s not like the 4 Winds Motel invited Governor Walker over and then put up the sign for him to see. So this time, it’s okay.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:21 pm
@cathyx:
Beg pardon, but are you fucking kidding me? When my son was 6, I found myself diving for the tv remote during the NBC Nightly News because I didn’t want to have to explain what ORAL SEX meant and why the President of the United States was participating in it.
I’m with DougJ on this one. This turning the other cheek crap is getting old.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:22 pm
@Punchy: it can’t be Gumby because Pokey is nowhere to be found…..
December 21st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
This same pearl-clutcher would most likely not have batted an eye at the extremely graphic “BOEHLERT SUPPORTS ABORTION” billboards sprucing up Utica, NY in the ‘80s.
Gumby’s a nice touch, although I wonder if they’ll get contacted by copyright attorneys as a result of this.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
@Pete: True. Besides…since when does Gumby hate Koch?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
@Punchy: I’ve been thinking for a long time of making a list (I guess these days it would be a tumblr) of Casual Copyright Infringement. I see this sort of thing all the time: a used car lot called “m&m auto” whose typeface looks exactly as you’d expect; an HVAC place called “Eagle Heating” whose logo is ripped off from the Philadelphia Eagles; and so on. I think a lot of micro-businesses don’t even think about what they’re doing, and this has been the case long before we had Google image search to populate our blog posts.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Great title.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Curious how many people here are really even liberals if you know what I’m saying and I think you do.
We need more of this kind of ‘in your face’ stuff. If we had a Congress full of Alan Grayson types I think we could reclaim the term liberal and tell the Republicans to get fucked in the face (to use a FPer’s term)
December 21st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
@cathyx: So what. We are always getting tagged as pu$$ies who get the vapors whenever the going gets rough.
We need to let people know that we can throw the high, hard stuff as well. That can draw back many dudes we lose to those assholes, just because they think we’re a bunch of weenies.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:30 pm
mistermix:
Huh, didn’t realize that was a minority. I guess I’m in that minority too.
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December 21st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
@Brachiator: It’s a start ;-)
December 21st, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Sockpuppets?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
@delphi_ote:
Unfortunately, a large number of public venues with television sets (bars, airports, doctor’s offices, et. al.) don’t.
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December 21st, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Let me see if I got this right:
Double entendres: completely unacceptable.
“Liberal hunting permits”: totally awesome.
Got it.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@merrinc: It actually sounds like you agree with me. I don’t want to have to explain this stuff to my young child either.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I think my main problem with the sign is that it’s not at all clever. I expect liberals to be funnier and not have to resort to bad puns… though I suppose I respect the difficulties inherent in the much less than 140 character limit imposed by a motel sign.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Mike in NC:
Bunch ‘a fucking fat slags, especially the last.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:40 pm
@JGabriel:
If I’m in such a place with Fox on the TV, I very loudly and pointedly ask that the channel be changed to something that’s not, and these are the words I use, “a right-wing propaganda delivery system for the Republican party”. If they don’t, I take my business elsewhere, and I let them and every other customer in the place know why.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Hell, I always wondered how Mommy explained Air Marshall Bush’s ‘package’ when he un-cockpitted himself on the deck of the USS Mission Accomplished.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@slag:
It was after that night when Gumby did a lot of blow with the Blockheads and woke up with a kidney missing. Didn’t you ever wonder why Gumby was green? Now you know. Gumby used to have a healthy orange claymation glow until the Blockheads took his kidney away and the green pigments piled up like so much chemical waste.
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December 21st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@cathyx: Here, let me help: ‘Honey, it refers to a disgusting way that some people show their obedience to a more powerful person. When you are older, you’ll find out exactly how, but not from me right now & if I ever hear you use that word (insert dire warnings)’.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@J.W. Hamner:
But “Kochsucker” is a good pun: it’s not just a double-entendre, it also accurately characterizes Walker’s relationship with rich conservatives.
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December 21st, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Why not reply that the governor is more concerned with Koch (coke) Industries than citizens of Wisconsin. The guy is a sucker.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
@cathyx: And that is very close to what they’ve probably heard dad call the other drivers when they’re in the car.
Nicely illustrating why the sign isn’t a problem (and least in terms of kids. ‘Civility,’ which I personally think is overrated, is admittedly another matter.)
December 21st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
“It’s complaining about politicians who take money from rich people and then do them favors.” Now was that so hard? Though, I suppose, if you don’t want your kids exposed to librul propaganda, you have to explain the dirty stuff instead.
However, I do tend to agree with @cathyx; the naughty stuff is more about venting than persuasion. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@Linnaeus: Also, too.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:50 pm
@JGabriel:
“Sucker” has a double-meaning here, too.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
If I am ever in the area and remember this sign, they’ll have an overnight guest!
December 21st, 2011 at 12:54 pm
@NobodySpecial: Heh. “Only thing in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead armadillos”.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:54 pm
@gnomedad: the naughty stuff is more about venting than persuasion
Agree to a point. But I think it does have some persuasive power in itself, as it gives the impression that one is not afraid to speak one’s mind, which is pretty universally held to be a positive political asset. There is a nontrivial ‘well at least s/he says what s/he thinks’ strain to our politics, i.e. what JM Marshall un-cleverly calls ‘bitchslap’ politics. Also, putting this out there may give courage to others’ convictions – e.g. ‘yeah, I feel that way too, glad someone finally said it.’
Cultural conservatives get this and use it constantly. I’m not opposed to a little return fire.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Why is it that Fox News is always on in places like hospital and doctor waiting rooms. OK, I get that a lot of doctors are Republicans. But most aren’t of the Fox News variety, are they? And at least some are liberal. But I have literally never in the past 10 years been in a waiting room that was running any kind of news other than Fox.
Is it because patients skew very old?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
“bloggers say mean things about recently deceased misogynist war-monger”
Yes, bad mouthing an dead atheist is such a bold, wild man telling it as it is, show no fear move in the United States Doug. You just know how we godmockers control every aspect of American society. You’re fighting The System™ now! Expect a summons from Representative King’s Homeland Security Committee soon, you bomb throwing radical.
But you know,..
,..just to bad you didn’t take that moxie and do it the man’s face when he was alive, you know?
December 21st, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Smells like homophobia to me. I’d prefer, “Recall that motherfucker Scott Walker, henchman of the Koch brothers.” No child would need that explained.
December 21st, 2011 at 12:59 pm
@hells littlest angel:
Hard to fit all that on the readerboard, which is the point.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Yeah, 54 and 56, exactly. I recognized the word “sucker” (meaning a dupe) had negative connotations as a kid without thinking about sex. Ya don’t have to tell them it’s an attempt at a dirty pun.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
@gnomedad:
Eh I guess… just reminds me too much of the random capitalizations and various “Nobama” style puns you get from right wing trolls schooled in the Limbaugh/Beck School of Humor.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
@(another) Josh:
Haha, I hadn’t thought about that in terms of explaining to a kid. But more generally, you always have the option of just explaining the message to them.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I’m good with it as long as it’s kept in the gutter like on signs for roadside dive motels called “4 winds”.
But I guess the GOPers are ok with their children seeing giant billboards on freeways that compares the president of the united states with hitler.
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/.....lboard.jpg
December 21st, 2011 at 1:09 pm
@cathyx:
Then you read something into this which I did not say. Thanks to the taxpayer financed investigation into the president’s sex life, I learned to discuss uncomfortable issues with my children. Seemed a better course of action than reading bedtimes stories about scary liberals hiding under the bed.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I’m kind of broken hearted that a good and righteous act has been so disgustingly associated with such despicable people.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Thank you made my day when every thing else is going wrong.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Why is it that Fox News is always on in places like hospital and doctor waiting rooms.
I have observed this as well. Assuming it’s true, my working theory is
1. the ‘news’ overall is uncontroversial and the ‘correct’ thing to show
2. if you are going to show news, the insured (to whom I guess we are referring when talking about ‘doctors waiting rooms, as opposed to ER) skew white, older, and middle to upper class, and Fox news caters to that demographic
3. production values (let’s face it, they all suck, but Fox’s production and personality crushes the black hole of suckitude that is CNN)
and my personal candidate for most important:
4. If MSNBC is on, Fox News viewers will complain or change the channel. The opposite, not so much, not least because there just aren’t as many viewers of MSNBC.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
@Rafer Janders:
What do you do if it’s on in your doctor’s office. Fox is always on in my doctor’s office. I don’t want to talk to him about it because I’m thinking “what if he is a right wing nut and starts to misdiagnose me deliberately, or gives me the wrong medication on purpose”. Yes I am slightly paranoid. It’s at times like this that I wish I had one of those music things in my ears all the time like the teenagers do. I’ll invest in it if my visits become more frequent.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:16 pm
My friends in The Strike wrote a song that, for me, sums up a more confrontational approach.
Kicking Ass For The Working Class
Albeit with more of a labor vibe. Union members are less shy of getting in your face.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
More from the war on Christmas:
It could be the Onion, but its not.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I’m going to put it more simply: I don’t think there is a single kid who actually is going to ask “Mommy what does that mean?” Kids may be curious but they don’t ask for explanation of every god damned random thing they see on the road. The kid question is bullshit, plain and simple.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
There no reason for Fox news to be on anywhere you go.
http://www.tvbgone.com/cfe_tvbg_main.php
December 21st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
cokesucker can be easily explained.
nice sign.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
@Villago Delenda Est: You’re right, “Recall that motherfucker” has got a lot more zing to it.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937: It couldn’t be the onion because that parody site isn’t nearly as well written as the Onion. It aspires to onionhood but doesn’t make it.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937:
Sorry, Poe’s Law got ‘cha. ChristWire is satire.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@The Other Chuck:
This is news to me.
Although I agree the kid dilemma is BS.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@wrb:
Holy Trinity: Beck, Hannity, & Limbaugh.
Absolutely nothing holy about those _____.
Please feel free to fill in the blank.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
I can be in the next room hearing only the drone of a tv show, yet I know whenever a conservative or liberal is talking.
Conservatives speak in passionate moral tones with declarative sentences. Liberals speak in hedged, qualified timid tones of uncertainty.
Moral certitude is a dangerously powerful thing, and we should be careful with its use. But it is completely appropriate to speak with power and conviction, and yes, righteous anger about the moral truth of a society that values restraint on power and money lust.
The modern conservative movement is based on ethnic hatred and sociopathic selfishness.
No other words can be used and still be truthful.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Liberty60:
Holy shiz! There really are DRONES EEEERRRRYYYWHERE!!
December 21st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
@Liberty60:
+1
December 21st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
if you can’t do a good job explaining away that sign, lady, you need to give up being a parent because the rest of it is going to fucking destroy you.
December 21st, 2011 at 1:59 pm
The word Amen comes to mind. Or, time to call the Waaaahmbulance!
December 21st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke, indeed.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937: Where is this cool Phish concert going to be?
Edit: Found out it is not happening, bummer.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
@Pete:
Yeah, that was my first thought, too. Clearly, SOPA and PIPA need to be broadened. And I need to get out more or have some kids or something.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
“Well, how does Mommy explain that? I’m not sure.”
Explain that it says COKEsucker and that is slang for a bad person who needs to wake up.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
@chopper: Exactly, shit parents lie about Santa and the easter bunny so how does she explain it? Just pronounce it Cokesucker and say it refers to bad people who will be forced to pay one day.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
So then why were you “diving for the tv remote during the NBC Nightly News because [you] didn’t want to have to explain?” Your second post seems to contradict your first.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937:
My favorite part wherein they describe Phish:
They found success, for example, by celebrating masturbation which was a very popular habit of many young men at the time.
AT THE TIME?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
@gnomedad: Aww, saw your post too late.
Although its getting harder and harder to tell innit?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@pk:
What do you do if it’s on in your doctor’s office. Fox is always on in my doctor’s office. I don’t want to talk to him about it because I’m thinking “what if he is a right wing nut and starts to misdiagnose me deliberately, or gives me the wrong medication on purpose”. Yes I am slightly paranoid. It’s at times like this that I wish I had one of those music things in my ears all the time like the teenagers do. I’ll invest in it if my visits become more frequent.
Well, if it was me, I’d assume that the fact that he had Fox News on meant that I couldn’t trust his judgment, and then I’d switch doctors. And if you seriously think there’s even the slightest chance that he’d violate his Hippocratic oath and deliberately misdiagnose you, then this is obviously not a doctor you should be seeing in the first place. Switch now.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@cathyx: The five most fascist words in the english language:
You know, for the children.
Fuck this shit. I hope a kid reads this comment.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
I wasn’t aware any libruls lived in that part of the state.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@rb:
Too bad they can’t spend that chi on some fact checking.
Heh.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
@gnomedad: Doh! I feel better that it is fake. Can’t trust anything on the internets these days!
December 21st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
My doctor shows cartoons in her waiting room. (Family practice, plus she gets lots of patients from at least two major animation studios.) I like my doctor.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
@chopper: This.
Seriously, get used to it. Better your kids ask you when you’re in the car with them, than ask their friends.
Unless you plan on locking them in the house with no TV, Internet or friends until they’re 21.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@DougJ:
Other than giving the toilet-mouth segment of the population a momentary happy, what is the practical benefit of wording that sign in that way as opposed to a simple and easily understood “Recall Walker?”
December 21st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
AMEN
December 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
@burnspbesq:
LOL, really?
The advantage is that it correctly presents Scott Walker’s head as hovering over the laps of the Koch brothers, who are (if possible) less popular in Walker’s state than Walker himself.
I take it you missed the Ian Murphy prank and the outpouring of support for Murphy when he visited Wisconsin. Google it, it’ll help answer your question.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm
If you’re in the waiting room for a high-income professional and Fox News is on the TV, switch professionals.
What it means is that the money you’re paying them goes back into local Republican campaign funds to make your life suck.
You’re paying a doctor to cure things that may be caused in part by the people the doctor pays to keep in office.
A lot of doctors are ultra-conservative Republicans who think they have earned the right to pay no taxes. A lot of doctors are Ron Paulers who hate the idea of public health. Hell, a lot of doctors are Creationists – doctors usually aren’t scientists. Just keep your eye out for those who don’t fit this description.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Late to the thread, but I’d have greatly preferred “Recall The Koch Sucker”. The space would help the parents (a “sucker” is a gullible fool or, in 70s cinema, a contemptible person), but the parents would still get the joke.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I’d tell my kids: “The Kochs are a couple of rich, evil brothers who pay the governor to do bad things to people who aren’t rich, such as . . . “
If they were old enough to understand the pun, even if it had to be explained to them, they’d be too embarrassed to ask their parents about it, or to want to hear the answer if they asked by mistake. They don’t want to hear that stuff from you.
A lot of this “for the children” crap seems to come from people who have utterly forgotten what it was like to be a child.
December 21st, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@Reddalestew: There are some, but don’t automatically assume the owners of the motel are liberals. Walker has pissed off a good portion of the state’s population, including many non-liberals.
December 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
@merrinc:
Someone once said, “Both cheeks are already sore.” Might have been Hawkeye on Mash.
I think this is a great sign. Liberals have been tap dancing around conservative bullshit for decades. Where has it gotten us? Nowhere. Absolutely Nowhere. We’ve collectively turned the other cheek and played the nicer card for the past 60 years and…
Conservatives get to lie and be huge hypocrites and we say nothing. They are counting on that. Fuck’em.
BTW I heard the joke as “Joke’em if they can’t take a fuck.”
December 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
@burnspbesq:
Because it doesn’t make us sound like pompous arrogant assholes.
It makes us sound like normal people who aren’t afraid of their own shadows.
December 21st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
@burnspbesq:
You’ve devolved into self-parody. “Toilet-mouthed”. If you’ve been screwing with me this whole time….I have to tip my hat. It’s quite an act.
December 21st, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Oh, I love it when they do this, but the realist in me says it does more harm than good. Americans don’t like nastiness and when Democrats do it, they called out on it by EVERYONE. Republicans- the media gives them unwavering attention.
December 21st, 2011 at 6:49 pm
@DougJ:
As much as we like to talk about being civil to each other, civility amongst the population went out the window a long time ago. Some like to talk about ‘more civil times’ but during those times civility was pretty much a facade that covered a lot of ugly. While many were indeed civil to each other, I would bet that just as many were uncivil wolves while wearing the sheepskin of a civil person. It’s a veneer and nothing more than that. Scratch the surface and you expose the ugly.
Look to the legendary “gentlemen of the south” for just one such example. Never forget that one of those elected “gentlemen” beat a fellow elected official to death. Civil my ass, it was one of many things that lead to a civil war.
While I don’t want to see discourse head to the bottom, sometimes you have to say or do stupid shit just to point out how ridiculous someone else is being. If political cartoons can lambaste everything in sight to make a point, I see nothing wrong with the public doing the same thing.
One interesting thing to note in the argument about how a mother would explain this to her children is why do they only mention the mother and the kids? Couldn’t it just as likely be the father that has to do the explaining? This ‘think of the moms and children!!’ bullshit is just that, a big, heaping, steaming pile of bullshit. It’s a red flag to the bull, whose sole purpose is to elicit sympathy and nothing more. There is no sincerity to it, not a bit, and anyone who thinks so is fucking stupid beyond belief. It’s only thrown out there to generate outrage and support for ‘the cause’ du jour.
If those fuckers cared one bit about the moms and kids out there then they wouldn’t be supporting those who they elect to make moms and kids suffer by destroying good paying jobs, cutting benefits and driving prices up by inserting 50 middlemen between a product and you.
They don’t give a SHIT about ‘moms and children’ unless they are talking about their own, they never have and they never will.
December 21st, 2011 at 8:11 pm
DougJ, I only comment here about once every six months, so you count me among the lurkers / “silent majority” of the blog’s readership, but I felt like you should know that I agree with you. As a parent, I’d prefer different messaging, but I’m a firm believer in fighting fire with fire.
December 21st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
How does Ms. Lombard explain what it means to be a supervisor of “Sauk County?” Guess she could say it’s a variation “Kochsucker.”
December 21st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
@Cris (without an H):
Look, I was once subjected to Fox News while in the waiting room for an interview for an official government position (obviously during the Bush administration.) I read a book and talked to the other interviewees.
Go away from those places. Pay attention to something else. Get your head out of the TV and quit letting morons wind you up.
December 21st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Fox News is so totally over-the-top in visual and aural stimuli that I can’t understand how anyone watches it for more than a few minutes without suffering seizure or cardiac arrest. Somehow it always seems to be playing at my gym, even in the modern-day Gomorrah of Palo Alto, and it takes conscious effort not to let my eyes get drawn towards that screen. Everything in view moves or flashes or shimmers or rotates in garish primary colors, like a cheap satire of 1984 mixed with Starship Troopers. Do doctors really have that on in their waiting rooms?
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:15 am
Despite my name and current residence, I am from Sauk County (La Valle and Reedsburg, to be exact). My bosom swells with pride.
December 22nd, 2011 at 2:26 am
@OzoneR:
False.
Not anymore. Thank Occupy Wall street for that.
Once again, we are through the looking glass. Now the spotlight is on the left. What are we going to do with it? Keep talking about boo hoo hoo poor us?
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 am
@Pseudonym:
If you can’t handle it just read FoxNews.com, and if you can’t handle that read MediaMatters.org and know that you’re not getting the real Scent of Fascism, at least try to stay informed about what half the country thinks through some consumption of right-wing media, it’s absolutely crucial information that you need to understand how politics work in a democracy
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 am
Since it took most of us here in cheeseheadlandolakes a few months to figure out how to pronounce Koch (I actually think it’s SUPPOSED to be Coke), no nine year old is going to see Koch and think Cock. You might use your context clues to figure it out but if some 7,8 or 9 year old already knows the meaning of cocksucker, you’ve got other issues than a mean sounding sign.
December 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 am
@AA+ Bonds:
I’m sorry, OWS isn’t getting called out by everyone? Are you watching the same news I am?
December 22nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
There Andrea Lombard, I fixed it you hypocritical asshole. I mean your kids know what an asshole is right? I’m sure you’ve already explained THAT to them.
December 22nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Ohh, Jimmy Fallon. You’re still a good comedian. But you shoulda stood proud for the Roots.
Crazy eyed woman had it comin’.
December 23rd, 2011 at 2:02 am