Perry just doesn’t have it. Romney just made him his bitch.
The whole cowboy boots and big swinging Texas dick thing doesn’t work unless there’s a lot of “aw shucks” and “yes ma’am behind it”.
Romney is such a transparent asshole, though, that if Cain realizes that it’s a dream about Tennessee and gets into the early states, I wonder if Romney can’t be beat.
Update. I hate Bachmann’s accent, I dig Perry’s though. Cain doesn’t have to drop every “g” goes he?
Update. This is so true:
When he’s talking, Ron Paul looks like a Disney character. Maybe something to do with Christmas or something.
Update. What happened to George Hamilton Beefheart? Is he even there?
Update. Okay, the fact we’ve got mostly solid or striped ties is great. But what is up with Bachmann’s Navy get up? I feel like I’m watching JAG.
Random User Name (Internet Idiot)
Takes alot of choot-spa to accuse the Obama administration of not enforcing immigration policy on the day it’s announced that he’s deported more illegals in one year than any time in history.
Litlebritdifrnt2
WTF Perry is for using predator drones on illegal immigrants?
Omnes Omnibus
And being what you might call a whore always worked for him before?
Dougerhead
@Omnes Omnibus:
He wants to be a fancy man but he’s nothing but a nancy boy.
Omnes Omnibus
@Dougerhead: It was one or the other.
Random User Name (Internet Idiot)
Well, at least the audience is booing the candidates instead of sick people and gay soldiers – I guess that’s a start, right?
arguingwithsignposts
Did anyone catch Bachmann. She now wants a doublemint fence!
Ron
@Random User Name (Internet Idiot): Ooh, I like that. I may steal that line!
lamh34
Michelle Bachmann is a disgusting human being. Or just a disgusting pol.
Did she really say that Obama’s aunt and uncle were illegals? Who does that impress?
Linda Featheringill
When he’s talking, Ron Paul looks like a Disney character. Maybe something to do with Christmas or something.
Dougerhead
@lamh34:
She’s from hell, the worst of the lot.
EDIT: Maybe not, Santorum may be worse. I hate those two, they think they’re so cute.
Random User Name (Internet Idiot)
@Ron:
Be my guest – it’s like these folks don’t watch the news, and none of the moderators ever call them on that shit.
jnfr
I’m not watching, just following the threads, and it sounds like they’re savaging each other. Fun!
Dougerhead
@Linda Featheringill:
So true! That is right on.
lamh34
@Dougerhead: @lamh34:
seriously, I hate using the B-word for women, but the first thing I thought when she said that BS was this racist/crazy B(((
Dougerhead
@lamh34:
Use it for her, that’s what the word is for.
eemom
@Dougerhead:
my gentle Greek mother, age 79, on Bachmann: “I hate that bitch.”
Linda Featheringill
Aren’t you glad you’re not married to Rick Santorum?
skippy
george hamilton beefhear? he listens to meat?
Dougerhead
@skippy:
BeefHEART! Sorry.
JGabriel
Rick Perry just got owned by Rick Santorum.
If you can get owned by Santorum, you are not presidential material.
Q.E.D.
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dmsilev
Mitt Romney quote of the night:
SiubhanDuinne
George Hamilton Beefheart? Who what?
Yutsano
@eemom:
Uhh…quoi? :)
JGabriel
YES! The GOP shows the crazy again! Applauds blaming the jobless.
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Dougerhead
@SiubhanDuinne:
Huntsman.
JGabriel
CNN’s home page tells me:
I’m in New York, you anti-urban freaks1
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me
@Dougerhead: He’s grasping at straws.
dmsilev
@JGabriel: That’s outside RealAmerica ™. Duh.
Yutsano
@JGabriel: But you’re not in Real Merika you hippie Communist!
JGabriel
@Omnes Omnibus:
And now he’s a shabby doll.
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JGabriel
@dmsilev:
I know, but when did CNN go from being a mainstream news outlet to a conservative blogger?
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Scotty
When do they have a debate where they discuss foreign policy? You know, something where they can’t just repeat ‘cut taxes’, ‘kill regulations’, or ‘repeal Obamacare’.
joes527
Mitt:
I just joined in, but I see we are going with bald faced lying tonight.
JPL
From what I read, Romney is concerned about hiring illegals while running for President. duh.. Did he mention whether or not he felt it okay to tie dogs to the roof of his car?
dmsilev
@JPL: Depends on whether or not the dog had a visa.
Morzer
@JPL:
Don’t mention tying up dogs, or Rick Santorum will start getting all hot and bothered and need a cold shower and a solitary heterosexual lie-down.
SiubhanDuinne
@Dougerhead:
Thanks. Not sure what it means, but thanks.
The Thin Black Duke
Just remember, the “winner” of this freak show is gonna get 27% of the country to vote for him, God help us.
piratedan
so here ya go America, one big flaming bag of poo for your front porch, excuse us while we ring the bell and run away…..
Sincerely,
The Republican Party
joes527
Perry makes Sarah Palin look like a genius.
Need Shatner to deliver that last statement from
Perry with bongos in the background.
Morzer
Is Mitt Romney now demanding that someone else stand up for bedrock principles?
Linda Featheringill
Hey! You know, she’d be good on JAG. If her lines weren’t essential to the plot.
Dougerhead
@SiubhanDuinne:
He loves Captain Beefheart and he looks like George Hamilton.
Morzer
JAGuar is the new cougar…
Ahem. Sorry. As you were.
joes527
Bachman:
bomb bomb bomb … bomb bomb Iran
PhoenixRising
@JGabriel: Dude. I thought it was me, and my Rio Grande ‘hood. International Edition my culo! CNN can VA por…oh, forget it.
Corner Stone
@The Thin Black Duke:
46%
PhoenixRising
@Morzer: Okay, full points.
Seriously, she’s not JAG material. Julie from the Love Boat, y’all!
Martin
Anyone from the the audience hollar out for some barbecue messican yet? Seems like a Nevada thing to do.
Corner Stone
The worst thing The Herman Cain can do is start thinking he’s “really” running for the nomination.
Not gonna happen. He’s got his grift working.
Martin
@joes527:
Morzer
I am getting horrible visions of Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann on the table covered in the fall-out from imploding debt….
KG
I was going to watch when I got home, but then I saw that Florida International is playing Arkansas St on ESPN and concluded that is more important
lamh34
ok, I’m done Michelle Bachmman is a horrible dumb, racist bitch!!!!
dmsilev
Cain: “I will not negotiate with terrorists. Except when I do”.
Yutsano
@Morzer:
You’re so lucky I’m a forgiving guy…
G
CNN has sucked since at least the run up to the Iraq invasion. At some point (and I once got an angry email from a. brown when I sent him a note saying thank you for not being a media whore as to one story he did)
at some point they decided that their demographic scaled old and white, and rather than target an demo other than fox – they decided clearly from the top to say fuck off to anyone not old white and scared of gays, muslims, and darker than casper people.
maybe old white scardy-cats buy more shit from their advertisers. I remember sending an unresponded to email to walter issacson about how this strategy was stupid. that the over 50% of the country that voted for gore had money too, and why would they want to fight with fox over the less than half that voted for Bush, when they could capture the more than half who voted for Gore.
as Asimov titled a short story “Silly Asses”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_Asses
but viewership capture ain’t got shit to do with catapulting the propaganda.
Morzer
@Yutsano:
Well, you do root for the Seachickens…
The Thin Black Duke
Well played, sir. My mistake. Sigh.
dmsilev
OK, so Iran is apparently a bigger threat to the US than Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany put together. Good to know, I suppose.
Yutsano
@Morzer: The Seahacks are dead to me. They can’t even Suck for Luck right.
joes527
@lamh34: never assume that Bachman is evil. Stupid is always a safer bet there.
Morzer
Since everyone wants to cut something real, I suggest they start by neutering Gingrich. Fewer anchor babies and crazy-eyed blonde women will be able to walk the streets in peace again.
Morzer
@Yutsano:
Now you see why my faith in the Dolphins burns so brightly. 0-5 gives me great confidence in our future Luck.
KG
@joes527: Since when is it either/or?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@joes527: I thought they weren’t mutually exclusive, so I consider her a twofer.
KG
@Morzer: I’m going to laugh at everyone going suck for Luck when he announces that he’s going to o back for his senior year
Morzer
Michelle Bachmann is a gibbering idiot. Reimbursements from Iraq and Iran? Were there no gold-farting magic unicorns available tonight?
JPL
Finished my movie and put on the debate.. I love Cain. You can say something and two hours later say I didn’t say that. I am now adapting that policy.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Morzer: And the look in her eyes on the split screen. . .
Svensker
@Morzer:
Why do you want fewer crazy-eyed blonde women to be able to walk the streets in peace? What have crazy-eyed blonde women done to you?
JGabriel
Michele Bachmann:
How? What the has Isreal ever done for us?
I can see how Isreal might consider us their greatest ally, given the money and arms we give them, and the protection in the world and the UN, but how is Isreal our greatest ally?
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Morzer
@KG:
He might, but I doubt he’d pass up on the NFL twice – especially when everyone has him going number one in the draft. That said, there would be much hollow laughter around the league if it happened.
I can’t imagine why we should find sucking for Luck remotely comparable to the GOP debate though…
SiubhanDuinne
@Dougerhead:
Oh. Okay :-)
JGabriel
I wouldn’t vote for Ron Paul in a billion years, but I love the way he shits all over GOP idols.
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beltane
@Morzer: Even the gold-farting magic unicorns knew enough to stay away from this 3rd rate circus.
joes527
@JGabriel: Dude. We need them for the end times that we are planning.
Morzer
@Svensker:
I don’t like to talk about it.
*sob*
jl
@Morzer: All unicorns fart gold dust, so I don’t see why they couldn’t get one. Probably one of them will tell us that the evil Nobama has killed them all, just because he is mean and doesn’t want us to make a nice independent prosperous one percenter living, running after unicorns and scraping up gold dust.
JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): off topic.. I have a garden bed outside my kitchen window that i want for herbs. Thyme and rosemary seem to flourish even during the colder months..anything else?
Martin
@Morzer:
There were, but they were gay, and her husband therapied them all back into regular donkeys.
JGabriel
@PhoenixRising:
Funny thing is, I said, “Yeah, gimme the international edition.”
I guess the fact that I’m annoyed and bored by American parochialism makes me Un-American.
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Morzer
@JGabriel:
He’s a sad, crazy, old fuckwad – which makes him strangely appealing by comparison with the rest of this GOP field.
dmsilev
Rick Santorum: “Less than half of all Americans have heard of any of us. Yay us!”
Quarks
You know, Ms. Bachmann, last time I checked a map, your state was still bordering a larger and more reliable U.S. ally than Israel.
Morzer
@jl:
Well, you know of course that the Kenyan Usurper hates gold-farting unicorns because they are white and generate wealth…..
Morzer
@dmsilev:
And which one of the Seven Dwarfs are you, Mr Santorum?
Martin
@JPL: Given that 40% of the country is rooting for this murder of idiots, I’d grow some nightshade – just in case.
JPL
@dmsilev: Santorum is the new Cain..he’s three and 0 except for those times he lost.
L. Ron Obama
Farty thousand jobs?
Morzer
Romney isn’t really a career politician, you know. He’s spent his life in the private sector. (And the unemployed middle class, also too.)
maya
It’s probably her tribute to the repeal of DADT.
Cue the Village People……In ♩the ♩♩♫Navy ♩♩♫
Cacti
@JGabriel:
I remember during the Israel/Turkey kerfuffle when it was being said how Israel was our real friend, but those devious Turks couldn’t be trusted.
Meanwhile, in the real world…Turkey sent a brigade of troops during the Korean War. And Israel…sank the USS Liberty.
Svensker
@Morzer:
Yes, but I do. Just come sit here next to me…
Wannabe Speechwriter
@Dougerhead:
Did you see Charlie Pierce’s takedown of Bobo-
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/david-brooks-great-restoration-6518155
lamh34
#xfusa #xfactor…Melanie vs Rachel…I can’t watch!!!
Paddy
Sorry if I’m duping this, busy looking for vids, but here is the Perry/Romeny dust up
Video- Mitt Romney And Rick Perry Get Into Illegal Immigration Slapfight
Morzer
@Svensker:
Are you a crazy blonde with no brain and huge assets?
Much depends on your response….
JGabriel
Mitt Romney: Not only do I know how to create jobs, I know how to make money by shifting those jobs to China!
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arguingwithsignposts
@Morzer:
Frothy. Duh.
Cacti
@Morzer:
Yep, a political career is the one thing that his money hasn’t been able to buy him.
But it’s not like he hasn’t been trying for almost 20 years.
Paddy
@dmsilev: Video of that here. Video- Romney: I’m running for office, for pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals.
Totally hilarious.
Svensker
@JPL:
Oregano is pretty hardy, and sage. And I’m a big chive booster — they just grow and grow, then give you lovely flowers in the spring. And it’s nice to have that fresh green onion taste at any time of the year. Mint and marjoram, too.
L. Ron Obama
@Morzer: The fartieth.
Morzer
@arguingwithsignposts:
I guess that leaves Perry as Sleepy, Ron Paul as Grumpy.. unfortunately there wasn’t a Pervy so no room for Gingrich at the inn….
JPL
I only listened to the last few minutes but from my vantage point, it sucked. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
dmsilev
Michelle Bachman: “The cake is baked”.
And, thank goodness, that’s the end of that.
Until next week.
RossInDetroit
Predictions:
That illegals quote will be a blot on Mitt’s escutcheon for 2 news cycles, or until the next shiny thing appears.
Tonight’s winner: Ron Paul’s stylist, for keeping his face in one piece for 90 minutes.
JPL
@Svensker: oh thank you I always plant herbs in the spring, i.e. basil but the bed is big enough that I’d like to be able to add to it.
edit..mint only belongs in a pot though
JGabriel
@JPL:
Of course it sucked. You’re missing the point: the more it sucks, the more there is to mock.
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JGabriel
Dupe. Deleted by Author.
KG
If Romney wins the nomination, who is veep? I can’t imagine Santorum, no way the evangelicals accept a Mormon AND a catholic on the same ticket. My money is on Cain.
Also too, given all the insane political happenings we’ve had in the last 20 years, what are the odds we have a brokered convention? And why does the wankfest that would follow scare the shit out of me?
Svensker
@Morzer:
Assets, schmassets. It’s not what you got in the bank that counts, kid. It’s what the bank puts in you.
Crazy-eyed blonde, btw, not crazy blonde.
Also, Jets. Heh.
Anyhoo, I’m off for the evening. Toodles and tinkertytonk.
lamh34
so who won the debate?
harlana
the sexual tension between Rick and Mitt was just palpable!
Martin
@RossInDetroit: Oh, yes, I forgot – anyone lose body parts during the debate?
Fuck, this this just getting way too close to my awesome, then horrifyingly bad idea of Big Brother season with a house full of people with mental illnesses.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@lamh34: I did, I watched that mediocre Cameron Diaz movie.
Morzer
So, we have to send the UN to Guantanamo, realize that Reagan was senile when he negotiated with terrorists, cut all foreign aid, except for to Israel, put everything on the table including Michelle Bachmann, repeal
RomneyObamacare, make sure we have more mortgage bankruptcies, fortify the border and put boots on the ground, while absolutely never, never, never mixing apples and oranges.Well, that ought to make for a happier, better US of A.
John Weiss
@G: Asimov… I suppose it takes one to know one.
Morzer
@Martin:
Gingrich wanted to cut off his right leg, or some such. I think there’s a Freudian slip operating in his immediate vicinity.
KG
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): That doesn’t narrow it down
Judas Escargot
I didn’t notice until 9:42 that Huntsman wasn’t there.
Romney won. If you call that ‘winning’.
gbear
People from MN don’t have accents, dontcha know.
I’d rather spend the evening listening to The Current’s pledge drive than waste a minute on the debate.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Omnes went off to read Life while I trudged through part of I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead. I’d call it Omnes, for the win going away; stuckinred to place, and Bella Q in a distant show.
ruemara
Because I have pity on you people, here’s some footage of Kage and Takkun. Really, it’s much more sensible than anything you just watched.
David Koch
Ed Schultz says Parry got the best of Mittens.
lamh34
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Bad Teacher?
the best thing about the movie was Jason Segal and though I’m loathed to say it Timberlake (I just don’t like JT)
JPL
I watched Bridesmaid and I’m not a lover of raunchy comedy.
My review three laugh out lines and corny ending. In all I’d rate it a B.
David Koch
All the analyst on MSNBC are trashing Romney’s p3rformance.
JPL
@David Koch: And Ed is always right. Why is the reply on the left sometimes and on the right sometimes? Now if a repub could answer that question, I might listen.
RandyH
Toward the end of the debate, Ron Paul called out Saint Ronnie for negotiating with terrorists (Iran) in order to get elected!
No one knew quite how to respond properly. Cognitive Dissonance, I guess. Thanks to the Coal and Natural Gas industries, they were saved by a commercial break. Whew!
lamh34
Gotta love Gawker. Check out the screenshots
Rick Perry Wants to Kill Mitt Romney
BTW, when did Romney put his hand on Perry’s shoulder? Isn’t that a no no in most debate rules?
AkaDad
At the debate, the audience and the stage had something in common. One black guy.
PurpleGirl
@JGabriel: Supposedly they are a democracy and we are a democracy, so there is a natural friendship. I said supposedly…
agrippa
I saw the debate. I thought of the ‘Gong Show’.
Morzer
I don’t know the GOP doesn’t just find a bunch of heat-crazed, rabid ground squirrels, have them duke it out live on TV and make the winner the nominee. It would certainly be a more credible procedure than allowing this asylum of kooks and numbskulls to pretend to debate issues that not one of them understands or can credibly discuss.
karen marie
@JPL: Oregano and sage. Sage is wonderful. Oregano is nice for putting in a rock path that doesn’t get heavy traffic.
Martin
@lamh34: Yeah, it’s a no-no, but it’s a good move. It’s a sign of dominance. Perry would have been wise to pull out his sidearm, but he blew the opportunity. Sucks to be him.
I’m a little worried that 2 1/2 months out from the first primary we’ve got this kind of one-upmanship taking place – they’re not pacing themselves. Defund the UN. Nuke Iran, etc. By thanksgiving Santorum is going to have to execute an undocumented 9 year old Mexican girl right there on the stage to get any cred.
Cliff in NH
@Svensker:
I’ve got oregano that randomly flourished after failed seed pots were scattered in acidic SAND with feet of snow every winter. No care and suddenly I have oregano showing up, amazing.
Chives do repeatedly show up here as well, so they get the nod too.
@JPL:
Spearmint went crazy this year, it spreads too, esp quickly if you bury a few stalks flat with a few leaves poking up.
Dougerhead
@harlana:
You kid but it kind of was.
JGabriel
PurpleGirl:
Right, just like all those years when we allied ourselves with Pakistan, usually in a military dictatorship, over India, the world’s largest democracy.
You can see why that reasoning looks a little suspect.
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Martin
JPL, don’t listen to these guys. Chives. Spearmint. Fuck that shit. If we wind up with President Cain, you’re going to regret not planting that nightshade.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I love how the black kitty was so blissed out he didn’t even know you were there until you spoke.
Morzer
@Martin:
Just don’t mix your nightshade with your apples.. or do I mean oranges. Anyway, Herb Cain will personally trample your unAmerican herbalosities under his size 999 boots by the force of his 999 IQ!
JGabriel
@harlana:
@Dougerhead:
Like Charlton Heston and Stephen Boyd in Ben-Hur! Or Plumber #2 and CEO #1 in Anal Class War 17: Plumb Leveling.
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The Dangerman
@Yutsano:
Perhaps, but they didn’t just trade a 1st and a 2nd for a 32 year old QB with recent injury issues; I’m reasonably sure that kind of outright theft the Bengals got away with is illegal in most states.
Jeffro
@KG: Romney/Rubio or Romney/Haley. You heard it here first.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Dougerhead: Really? That’s interesting, in a weird sort of way. I was reading about Warren Zevon, so I
missedskipped the visuals, catching only the threads.Morzer
@Jeffro:
What, no Romney/Joe the Plumber?
PurpleGirl
@JGabriel: Yup. And I don’t write snark very well, I should have labeled it so. Back when the cold war was ending, an acquaintance said something about “now being able to sleep and not worrying about being killed in her sleep by a bomb”. I told her, “no, Russia is not the problem now, but Pakistan and India would gladly drop the bomb on each other.”
catclub
@Quarks: Israel firsters really do not like it if you point out that we have mutual defense treaties (NATO dontchaknow) with Turkey, but none with Israel.
Exurban Mom
On the topic of awesome Elvis Costello songs, there’s this:
http://youtu.be/KxardpBReQc
JGabriel
@KG:
Pretty good, actually. A lot of states are going proportional delegation instead of winner-take-all for the GOP primaries this year.
Makes it a lot harder for any of the candidates to push past that 50% line for an uncontested convention.
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Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@JGabriel: I had that once, and I’m from Texas. I ended up having to remove the cookies for CNN to fix it.
Mnemosyne
@PurpleGirl:
Hey, how was Rhinebeck? I know you only mentioned it to make me jealous. ;-)
The Dangerman
@Jeffro:
I think the ticket was on the same stage last week; Romney and Christie.
I still don’t get how a currently rabid Republican Party nominates Romney (other than the Money Boys and Girls want him), but I don’t see any challenger for him. Kinda unbelievable.
Martin
@JGabriel: And don’t forget the upside of Citizens United – unlimited campaign funds means that almost everyone has enough money to last through the primaries.
lamh34
GOPDebate winner: President Obama…
GOPDebate loser: Anderson Cooper:
PurpleGirl
@Mnemosyne: It was great. A friend gave me Stephanie Pearl-McPhee’s new book and Stephanie autographed it. Stephanie notice the necklace I was wearing and she complimented me on it. (It was one I’d made myself. Ego-boo is great.) I only bought one skein of wool-tencel yarn but got ideas for yarn to buy on-line. Next year my friend and I might get a hotel room and go both days — there’s that much to see if you really have the time to spend.
lamh34
Anyone else agree with this assessment of the Romney/Perry “touch-fest” that I linked above?
Dougerhead
@JPL:
Yeah, I thought it was only okay. My favorite was when the dad stood up and said “I am not paying for this shit” when Wilson Phillips was playing.
Brandon
@lamh34: You obviously don’t understand that there are two rules of Republican primaries at any level.
First, anything goes. Particularly when that anything involves belittling the manliness of another Republican. I will always remember how GHWB took down Bob Dole.
Second, never compare a fellow Republican to a Democrat. That is the only offense that a Republican can commit against a fellow Republican evidently. And it relates to the first because I will also always remember how GWB took down McCain and humiliated him into apologizing after comparing him to Clinton.
Dougerhead
@lamh34:
I agree it worked. It was a dick move by Romney, though. He knew Perry wanted to hit him. I would have a tough time not saying “don’t fucking touch me” myself.
Morzer
@lamh34:
Cooper got one fact badly wrong, but as a moderator he did an excellent job – and as a result we saw a much livelier and fiercer debate than the ones we had to endure previously.
Tom Return of the Pretentious Art Douche Levenson
@The Dangerman: Nods glumly.
Doesn’t the Snake have a few throws left in him?
(Cue old guy whimpering).
Jeffro
@The Dangerman: Christie would be a tough pick for Romney…remember above all else, Mitt-bot 2012 is a calculating machine. Christie can’t bring NJ into play really (despite Village commentary to the contrary) and his personality would only clash with Mitt’s lack of same, and in places depart from Republican orthodoxy.
However, a token female or Hispanic – both of whom are Tea Party approved – passes Mitt’s initial tests for what he considers R and other voter outreach. Add that their relative lack of credentials makes him look quite presidential, and that they’d be more than willing to jump in and take orders a la Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin, and I think we have us a ticket!
Martin
The best thing about these debates is that it’s a tsunami of material for the Obama campaign. I hope it continues in this form for another 6 months. May nobody drop out. May we have a debate every week.
lamh34
@Dougerhead: is it bad that I’m envisioning Romney trying to tap POTUS on the shoulder and SS taking him down/out???
El Cid
@Morzer:
I thought that’s what they were doing.
Mnemosyne
@PurpleGirl:
I’m going to a signing for her new book next week in Pasadena. Festivals can be dangerous — I think I blew my budget twice when Vogue Knitting was here. On the other hand, I’m actually using some of the yarn right now, so it doesn’t count as extravagance, right? Right?
Dougerhead
@lamh34:
I don’t like it when they pull that stuff with each other. When someone pulls that on me, I lose it. It’s so manipulative.
Morzer
@Jeffro:
I think Susana Martinez could just be the answer to Romney’s prayer. She fits the criteria, might just put New Mexico into play.
Martin
@Dougerhead: @Dougerhead: I don’t know. If there was ever a time that a Texas Republican who looks like he fell out of a Marlboro ad could pull a gun on stage is when some Massachusetts cult dude with a Mexican dad gets on with the homoerotic touching.
Like I said, he blew an opportunity there.
arguingwithsignposts
@Morzer: Make it honey badgers, and I’m in.
El Cid
Steven Seagal, deputized in Texas to protect the border.
I guess it’s rude to mention that rich actor Steven Seagal, and not some Mexican, took a deputy job from some American, who needed it and who didn’t have millions of dollars from being a big time movie and TV star.
Martin
@Mnemosyne: Oh my god, you’re killing me over here.
Morzer
@arguingwithsignposts:
Can we compromise on legal pure-blooded American armadillos? Yes? No?
PurpleGirl
@Mnemosyne: Right, yes, definitely. I have some yarn left over from the Water Tower project and this afternoon I decided to make some scarves and donate them to OccupyWallStreet.
JGabriel
Like the rest of the GOP debates so far, hardly any of the questions raised, and none of the solutions proposed, have any basis in or resemblance to reality.
I feel like we’re watching a fantasy show with an elaborate mythology and really cheap production values.
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suzanne
My husband thinks Barbour will be the VP pick. I remain unconvinced.
Loneoak
How about some levity? This made me laugh out loud in class today.
arguingwithsignposts
@Morzer: Put a double fence in for the cage match and we’re good to go. PPV Baby!
Corner Stone
@suzanne:
You should bet him foot rubs on it.
No one in this field will EVER pick HB.
Morzer
@suzanne:
No way it’s Haley Barbour. He doesn’t bring anything to the ticket in terms of electability and was last seen trying to pretend that he didn’t really want to return to the good old days before 1964/1861.
Punchy
If Im Paul or Santorum or some other not-gunna-winner, why not try and one-up the Cain dumbassery with a 8-8-8 tax plan, then hammer on Cain for planning such a higher tax rate?
El Cid
@JGabriel: Babble-On 5.
JGabriel
CNN via El Cid:
I have this great cinematic moment in my mind, where Seagal jumps into the left side of the frame to confront an illegal alien on the right. Seagal waves his hands in classic martial arts mode, whoosh whoosh whoosh, and takes an offensive position (as he often does).
Then illegal alien pulls out a gun and shoots Seagal in the chest.
Too Indiana Jones?
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Martin
@suzanne: If Romney is the pick, he’s going to have to pick someone completely bugfuck crazy as VP to get the Tea Party out. Barbour isn’t it. Christie isn’t it. Cain might be a pick if the GOP truly believes that minorities only vote for minorities (wouldn’t put it past them). I’m not sure how they get through this.
Obama is going to be WAY stronger than they think, WAY stronger than the polls suggest right now.
lamh34
@Dougerhead: I agree with u on that.
Anyone touch me without my permission especially is we are “debating” i.e. arguing, I’d be throwing ‘bows left and right!
Morzer
@Punchy:
How about adding in a mandatory daily sacrifice of virgins to the Wall Street dragon? That’s a free market approach, right?
Martin
@Punchy:
I’m taking Bachmann to space out and come in late with the 6-6-6 tax plan.
El Cid
@JGabriel: Either that or 5 pissed off Mexicans beat the shit out of him.
suzanne
@Corner Stone:
Nope. Higher stakes. Heh.
Dougerhead
@Punchy:
It’s copy-cat league, as Corner Stone likes to say.
Mnemosyne
@Martin:
What, sports talk is fine but knitting talk is beyond the pale? Get over it, yabbo.
suzanne
@Martin:
Well, they thought women would vote for the Snowbilly.
lamh34
btw, the buzz on “black twitter” (lol) is about Rick Perry calling Hermain Cain “brotha”…
I’m sure he caled Cain “brotha” as in “brothers in Christ” right?
PurpleGirl
@JGabriel: LOL. Perfect. I can see it, clear as day.
piratedan
@Martin: mentioned in an earlier thread today that supposedly Jan Brewer’s name has been kicked around. Supposedly she has wingnut cred with the TP crowd (word is that she’s commanding six figures to speak at TP organizations) who adore SB1070, which allows them to continue to play the “fear against the other” card, this time via immigration. All they have to do is get one dubious/tragic event anywhere along the border and there’s your new shiny! It worked in AZ, against all facts that spoke to the contrary and the wingnut wurlitzer just shouted it all down. They can play the Obama’s weak on protecting our borders card and ride that dead horse for all its worth.
“Economy be damned! We’re being invaded!”
Morzer
@suzanne:
It might be amusing if Mittens picked Michelle Bachmann to appeal to the boner-fied Christians.
Keith G
@eemom:
That answers a few questions. ;)
amk
@JGabriel: LOL. That prick can’t act for sure. He deserves to be shot for that reason alone.
The Dangerman
@Martin:
The TPers will come out because of the rabid hatred of Obama; I think you need someone at #2 that will appeal to the middle (and if Romney does have a bugfucker at #2, he better have a quality food inspector).
ChrisNYC
It’s a tough competition but I think I find Santorum the MOST repulsive. He had SEVEN children and then lives off some weird conservative welfare since his ONE TERM in the Senate? Disgusting. Move ON, guy! Do SOMETHING productive. And the whining.
Cacti
@piratedan:
Won’t happen.
GED Jan is also a Mormon.
Martin
@piratedan:
Yeah, they can try that, but I don’t think it’ll work. Stuff like this is going to make it hard for them to win over the middle:
Obama has a lot of ammunition on his side (and has earned scorn from the Latino community as a result) showing that he’s done more to reduce undocumented immigration than anyone before him – particularly with the substantial replacement of non-criminal deportation with criminal deportation. It’s not even close.
They’re going to make a lot of smoke and noise as usual, but I’m not sure they’re going to win over anyone they don’t already have. But Brewer would make some sense. Lot of ammo for Obama there as well. Brewer is about as dumb as Bachmann as well.
cs
@Cacti:
Not only the USS Liberty, but there’s a little known story from ’83 when Reagan decided to insert us into Beirut.
Comrade Luke
@Martin:
It’s going to be Romney/Rubio.
Corner Stone
@The Dougerhead: I do? I always thought I liked to say, “It’s a death trap, it’s a suicide rap. We gotta get out while we’re young. Cause, The Dougerhead, baby, we were born to run!”
Corner Stone
@Comrade Luke: I hate disagreeing with someone I’m supposed to be running a benevolent dictatorship with…but Rubio will not be on any GOP ticket for 2012.
handy
@Martin:
Heh. I had to look up your “Mexican dad” reference. I’ll be damned. (SPOILER ALERT: It’s a stretch).
Corner Stone
@suzanne: I thought y’all were an old broke married couple. You gonna make him do the dishes for a week or some shit?
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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@lamh34:
No, no, and no. “Brothers in Armadildos” is the phrase you’re looking for.
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Anne Laurie
@Judas Escargot:
Yeah, best of the local tv ‘political commentors’ (Andy Hiller) claimed Huntsman was the winner “because he stayed in New Hampshire”.
dww44
@JGabriel: Ditto for my spouse:
who watched a bit, said that AC threw softball questions,which they didn’t answer and were never held accountable by the moderator for not answering.
We’ve become so enamored of the process that the substance of any of these PR events(for both candidates and media) has been reduced to almost zero.
suzanne
@piratedan:
Well, she DOES have an associate’s degree from a community college. Who needs education when you have CRED?!
FFS.
I’d almost be glad if she got picked, because then we’d be rid of her here.
suzanne
@Corner Stone:
No, we’re a young broke married couple.
Comrade Luke
@Corner Stone:
Think so? They might make him an offer he can’t refuse, just to get the teabaggers on board.
AA+ Bonds
NO TOUCHING
Corner Stone
@suzanne: Meh. Marriage is marriage.
You’re old to everyone now.
patrick II
@Jeffro:
Does “going rogue” ring a bell with you?
Joel
@Morzer: Playing Matt Moore (aka Tebow without any semblance of athleticism) seems to be the way to go.
Joel
@El Cid: What’s to say Stephen Segal ain’t broke? The guy looks like he has shit for brains, so it wouldn’t surprise me.
Admiral_Komack
@Morzer:
Shitty.
Admiral_Komack
@El Cid:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Londo would wipe the floor with these clowns!
CarolDuhart
Could Cain back into this? Yes, he’s crazy, but I can see him being the face of this matched with someone who will really exercise power (ala Cheney), like a Romney or Barbour.