Ah, Glibertarians
PZ Myers reads Reason so we don’t have to.
August 31, 2011 12:47 pm
Posted in: Glibertarianism
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33 Responses
TenguPhule - August 31, 2011 | 12:53 pm · Link
We will not have peace until the last Republican is strangled in the entrails of the last Liberterian.
Zifnab - August 31, 2011 | 1:03 pm · Link
Ah, the old “Liberals are hypocrites because they don’t agree with me” trope. Classic.
Judas Escargot - August 31, 2011 | 1:06 pm · Link
@TenguPhule:
Libertarians (are a subset of) Republicans.
Fortunately, human entrails are long enough to the reach the owner’s neck.
ETA: FYWP won’t let me embed the ‘propersubset’ symbol. Fuckers killed my joke.
c u n d gulag - August 31, 2011 | 1:08 pm · Link
It’s not Liberals who want to take us back to the 15th Century – it’s Conservatives!
They want a Dominionist Christian Corporate Feudal States of America.
Their Galtian motto?
“We’re here to ‘serf’ you!”
DCCFSA! DCCSFA!! DCCFSA
Nutella - August 31, 2011 | 1:10 pm · Link
An even more ridiculous entry in Myer’s blog, especially the illustration.
danimal - August 31, 2011 | 1:13 pm · Link
As I’ve said numerous times, the global warming models that climate change theorists have put together over the past several years have been consistently wrong. We need to recognize that these models are not accurate representations of the future.
Just about every model has proven to be too conservative; the effects of global warming are occuring years, sometimes decades, before the models suggest.
John Weiss - August 31, 2011 | 1:14 pm · Link
Myers is a tool. I wonder whose?
Joseph Nobles - August 31, 2011 | 1:18 pm · Link
There are a lot of these “defenses” of Rick Perry’s anti-science BS these days. And they’re all the same thing: “yah, yah, you nerd wankers, science is for weenies like you.”
joeyess - August 31, 2011 | 1:21 pm · Link
Myers is a tool? Really?
Explain this please.
Svensker - August 31, 2011 | 1:25 pm · Link
This is a cunning plan to lure derp and the little one into a sticky trap here, right? So the other threads can stay clean, right? Either that, or you a masochist.
Marc - August 31, 2011 | 1:26 pm · Link
When PZ talks science he’s quite good. Unfortunately, he spends most of his time attacking religion instead. And he’s not all that insightful on that subject.
The libertarian rejection of inconvenient science is what made me lose any interest in what they have to say – they’re simply a market cult. You hear more about them than the Hollow Earth society because libertarian pathologies appeal to a few wealthy benefactors.
Hewer of Wood, Drawer of Water - August 31, 2011 | 1:28 pm · Link
@joeyess: You don’t find John Weiss’assertion sufficient? You want evidence for an unsupported comment?
Commie
Villago Delenda Est - August 31, 2011 | 1:30 pm · Link
This, right here, from PZ’s blog entry:
Sums things up nicely. It’s about hiding costs and passing them on to others. It’s about freeloading.
It’s about mooching. It’s about parasites.
Mark S. - August 31, 2011 | 1:30 pm · Link
@Nutella:
Shit, I was expecting Jesus petting a dinosaur or something, but that’s a level of meta I can’t get my head around. That’s supposed to encourage children?
Alex S. - August 31, 2011 | 1:34 pm · Link
Idiots, they claim to be the only smart people in the room and to have a theory that has it all figured out, but they have no concept of long-term developments. They can’t see that some things need some sort of intervention on a grand scale (what did they say about the ozone hole, by the way?). They have internalized the short-term thinking of the market radicals.
c u n d gulag - August 31, 2011 | 1:36 pm · Link
And let’s not forget that FOX News told Bill Nye, ‘The Science Guy,’ who explains things to children, CHILDREN!, that his explantions were too complicated for their viewers.
Yup, that’s FOX News in a nutshell.
I read the best description of it ever here earlier today – FOX is NICKELODEON for Alzheimers victims.
Enhanced Voting Techniques - August 31, 2011 | 1:51 pm · Link
@John Weiss:
PZ Myers is puppet of the tentacled masters who secretly control the world. Myers freely admits that. Search of “squid sex” at his blog.
Samara Morgan - August 31, 2011 | 2:02 pm · Link
@Villago Delenda Est: nah.
its just the “freed” market in action.
Cris (without an H) - August 31, 2011 | 2:08 pm · Link
David Harsanyi, from the Reason post:
PZ and several of his commenters pointed this out, but it bears repeating: populations adapt, individuals die.
Numbskulls like Harsanyi, if they understand natural selection at all, probably consider the untimely death of the “unfit” to be an acceptable cost of adaptation.
kindness - August 31, 2011 | 2:17 pm · Link
What kills me at Reason is the mental level their comments people are at. They are morons of the highest order.
The other reason I ignore Reason is their writers. They aren’t much better than Reason’s commentators.
Peggy - August 31, 2011 | 2:27 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H):
These numbskulls assume they’ll be the lucky ones who survive. After all, that’s what all the guns are for. They fail to factor in that vast earth wide wars and migrations might upset their tidy little lives.
As I always say to people who claim global warming will lead to the extinction of humans- “not for Bill Gates’ descendants.”
Mark S. - August 31, 2011 | 2:40 pm · Link
@kindness:
Reason’s got the dumbest fucking commenters in the world. It’s like being trapped in a room with fifty Nick Gillespie clones. I haven’t had the fortitude to read them for a while.
Triassic Sands - August 31, 2011 | 3:00 pm · Link
Right now, millions of Bangladeshis are developing gills—something they may need in the not-to-distant future. Who says humans can’t adapt to climate change?
Apparently, this doesn’t apply to things like supply-side economics, tax cuts for the richest, etc. Next year, if Perry runs against Obama, Harsanyi will undoubtedly support Perry, because of Obama’s “redistributionist” policies. In doing so, he will be supporting the same policies that have gotten the US into the mess we’re in now. I guess that says all we need to know about the “dumbness” of Harsanyi.
Arclite - August 31, 2011 | 3:19 pm · Link
First paragraph from the stupid article:
1. Predicting global warming is like predicting there will be a winter: You know the historical trends, and you know the mechanism (Atmospheric CO2 correlates directly with temperature of the past 400K years). It’s like danimal said, if anything the scientists have been TOO conservative.
2. As for the second part, OF COURSE humans could adapt to climate change given enough time, BUT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. Climate change is occurring over decades, human evolution occurs over millennia. The historical record is full of thousands of species who, when faced with rapid climate change, failed to adapt in time and went extinct. For example, the dinosaurs.
It’s almost inconceivable that you could have so much stupid in such a small number of words, but this person accomplished it.
Derf - August 31, 2011 | 3:25 pm · Link
Speaking of ignorant idiots who opposed the Libyan intervention. Seems Kucinich as some ‘splainin’ to do!
http://theobamadiary.com/2011/08/31/what-5/
Comrade Kevin - August 31, 2011 | 4:00 pm · Link
For me, glibertarians always conjure up the inhabitants of the Golgafrinchan ship of fools that crashed into the primitive Earth in the Restaurant at the end of the Universe.
Derf - August 31, 2011 | 4:11 pm · Link
Silly Glibertarians? Offering up these simplistic views of the world. My favorite is when they try to imply a 1 week drop in the stock market is a sign of a recession. Like this clown tried to do.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2.....-not-a-bug
Cris (without and H) - August 31, 2011 | 4:24 pm · Link
I just installed the Pie Filter for the first time. Now I enjoy reading Derf’s comments about desserts!
Derf - August 31, 2011 | 5:06 pm · Link
href=”#comment-2751850”>Cris (without and H): Good to hear my little furry groupie. Perhaps you can also announce the color and consistency of your stool this morning. I am sure that will be of equal interest.
Derf - August 31, 2011 | 5:07 pm · Link
@Cris (without and H): Good to hear my little furry groupie. Perhaps you can also announce the color and consistency of your stool this morning. I am sure that will be of equal interest.
clone12 - August 31, 2011 | 5:36 pm · Link
Is there is term for the patheological behavior to proclaim one’s abundance of a specific quality that is manifestly lacking, the way the Soviet newpaper called itself “Pravda” or “Reason” Foundation’s non-convincing eponymous self-promotion?
I mean, it’s not like Einstein had remind people just how smart he is by changing his name from “Albert” to “Smarty Pants Genius Jew” or anything like that.
El Cid - August 31, 2011 | 6:31 pm · Link
Of course humans can adapt to climate change. Humans can “adapt” to all kinds of stuff. It may be a much shittier, violent, impoverished, deadly, and suffering-filled life for a much smaller number of surviving people, but, sure, they’ll “adapt”.
Linnaeus - August 31, 2011 | 9:11 pm · Link
@El Cid:
Yes, this. I’ve heard before this argument that climate change isn’t something to worry about much because human beings will “adapt”. But the implicit assumption is that the process of adaptation will be relatively painless and that nature is something we’ll have to “do without” (I actually read about an economist who said this). Leaving aside the fact that nature doesn’t “leave” and therefore you’re never “doing without” it, it’s true that organisms can and do adapt to changes in their environments, but it’s also true that a whole hell of a lot of them often die in the process and that those that end up surviving do so in an environment that is far harsher than the one the population started out in.