Coming Soon To A Bookstore Near You
Analysts predict a run on crayons:
It’s official: Michele Bachmann has a book deal.Sentinel, a conservative imprint of Penguin Group (USA), announced Monday that the Republican presidential candidate’s memoir will arrive in November and already has been completed. The book, reports of which first circulated in June, is currently untitled. Sentinel declined comment on reports that Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund co-wrote the memoir.
As a member of the House of Representatives, Bachmann is not permitted to receive an advance against royalties.
According to Sentinel, Bachmann will “share previously untold stories” about her private life, “including her roles as a tax attorney, a wife, a mother of five and a foster mother of 23.” Virtually all of the Republicans candidates have published books, a standard for modern presidential campaigns.
I was just musing on that twitter thing which Weekly Standard wingnut would draw the short straw, seeing as how Hayes, Continetti, and the Goldfarb have all been prostituted out, and it turns out the eager participant is none other than investigative “journalist” John Fund. Expect a big section on the New Black Panther Party, and I am sure the parts on fidelity and abortion will be rich. It really is amazing how deep and wide the wingnut bench of fluffers is- it really could have been anyone, but I guess Fund is hacktacular enough to do the deed.
At any rate, you know the drill. Time to come up with a name for Bachmann’s book. I’ll open with “Will and Graceless.”
August 29, 2011 5:40 pm
Posted in: Clown Shoes, Our Failed Media Experiment, She Has The Electrolytes We Need
230 Comments
230 Responses
Lev - August 29, 2011 | 5:43 pm · Link
No, Not That One, The Other One by Michele Bachmann.
cathyx - August 29, 2011 | 5:44 pm · Link
Will it be a coloring book?
cleek - August 29, 2011 | 5:45 pm · Link
i’m pretty bored with this “running for office, gotta write a book” thing.
get another gimmick.
BGinCHI - August 29, 2011 | 5:45 pm · Link
Read This Or You Will Go To Hell, the Michelle Bachmann Story
Jenny - August 29, 2011 | 5:46 pm · Link
Strange Bedfellows
cathyx - August 29, 2011 | 5:46 pm · Link
Ok, as much as I want to make fun of her, 23 foster kids? That’s pretty impressive.
Mino - August 29, 2011 | 5:46 pm · Link
Penguin?
Origuy - August 29, 2011 | 5:46 pm · Link
Still Crazy After All These Years
forked tongue - August 29, 2011 | 5:47 pm · Link
Someone on TPM already claimed “101 Signs Your Husband Might Be Gay.”
John PM - August 29, 2011 | 5:47 pm · Link
God is Literally My Co-Pilot
Rick Massimo - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
Vote for Me
OrAnd the Country Gets It: Michele Bachmann’s Plan to Destroy the American Government In Order to Save It.BGinCHI - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
Also coming soon to a bookstore (with a cross in the window) near you:
Marcus Bachmann’s I Just Put It in My Mouth, I Didn’t Suck On It (Sentinel, 2012, $24.95, cloth).
shoutingattherain - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
Being Pretty Got Me This Far, Being Crazy Will Get Me The Rest.
WaterGirl - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
Am I crazy, or is this a big, fat invitation to any one of possibly 23 unhappy foster kids to speak out?
Narcissus - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
My Big Fat Gay Wedding. By M. Bachmann.
trex - August 29, 2011 | 5:48 pm · Link
“A Marge to Freep”
celticragonchick - August 29, 2011 | 5:49 pm · Link
It will shoot to the top of the best seller lists since wingnut thinktanks will buy it in bulk and hand it out at CPAC. In truth, I think some folks have realized their lists are being gamed this way and now use an asteric to indicate that a book is being bought in bulk instead of at book stores.
c u n d gulag - August 29, 2011 | 5:49 pm · Link
“Minnesota TimberMILF.”
Marx Dudek - August 29, 2011 | 5:49 pm · Link
“Red and Yellow, Black and White (But Mostly White)”
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 5:50 pm · Link
Well, not all at once.
Allan - August 29, 2011 | 5:51 pm · Link
Last Summer, At Jesus Camp
Tha D to tha A to the NDY - August 29, 2011 | 5:51 pm · Link
Double Negatives: Being Submissive to a Sub
Jenny - August 29, 2011 | 5:51 pm · Link
Going Rogue-r
fhtagn - August 29, 2011 | 5:51 pm · Link
Wacky Bachy: My Life In Her Downfall.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 5:52 pm · Link
A Blinking Life.
Violet - August 29, 2011 | 5:52 pm · Link
Is this the third disaster in the Disasters-That-Come-In-Threes?
Those stories are not untold.
Dana - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
“Sorry God. I Was Just Kidding”
Bill ORLY - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
Triumph of the Shrill.
Norwonk - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
I Can See the Rapture from My House.
smintheus - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
Descended from a long line of English queens.
cathyx - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H): That doesn’t make it any less impressive.
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
They should have tried that with Atlas Shrugged, Part 1 tickets.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
Cheaper by the Two Dozen.
Allan - August 29, 2011 | 5:53 pm · Link
Triumph of the Shrill
ETA: Jinx! @#26
bobbo - August 29, 2011 | 5:54 pm · Link
The Voices in My Head
M. Bouffant - August 29, 2011 | 5:54 pm · Link
Based on the Blue Öyster Cult classic: Dominionism & Submission.
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 5:54 pm · Link
@cathyx:
It’s an impressive number, for sure, but a tad misleading:
Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....03544.html
fhtagn - August 29, 2011 | 5:55 pm · Link
Bride of Twinkie: The Lonely Passion of Michelle Bachmann
One Hundred Years of Solipsitude
Around The Bend In 80 Ways
Sherean - August 29, 2011 | 5:55 pm · Link
Because He Told Me So
celticragonchick - August 29, 2011 | 5:55 pm · Link
Betty DavisMarshall Applewhite Eyes: I know What God is Thinking and He Thinks You Have Been Naughty!Last Days Press, Dallas, Tx. 2011
celticragonchick - August 29, 2011 | 5:55 pm · Link
Betty DavisMarshall Applewhite Eyes: I know What God is Thinking and He Thinks You Have Been Naughty!Last Days Press, Dallas, Tx. 2011
Baud - August 29, 2011 | 5:56 pm · Link
Little Louse on the Prairie
Baud - August 29, 2011 | 5:56 pm · Link
Little Louse on the Prairie
cathyx - August 29, 2011 | 5:57 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne: After reading that, I’m even more impressed. Taking in teenagers would be very difficult. They certainly would have a lot of issues and anger.
MTmofo - August 29, 2011 | 5:57 pm · Link
“My Life as a Beard”
jonas - August 29, 2011 | 5:57 pm · Link
Rage Against the Mattachine
greenergood - August 29, 2011 | 5:57 pm · Link
Mad-Eyed and Medicated: My March to the White House
Derf - August 29, 2011 | 5:57 pm · Link
Guess her crazy eyes just doesn’t do it for you like the Bush/Perry swagger eh Cole?
Redshift - August 29, 2011 | 5:58 pm · Link
@Origuy:
Win!
Poopyman - August 29, 2011 | 5:59 pm · Link
@cathyx:
Yeah, and the teenagers probably would have the same issues too.
kbl60 - August 29, 2011 | 5:59 pm · Link
The book God really wanted to write.
or
“666 My life and Times” By Michele Bachmann
Bago - August 29, 2011 | 5:59 pm · Link
Let go of the wheel: God is my co-pilot.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 6:00 pm · Link
Eyes Wide Shut Up.
MattR - August 29, 2011 | 6:01 pm · Link
@cathyx: That assumes that Bachmann is being truthful.
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 6:01 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne:
I can see what they’re saying, that calling yourself a “foster parent” of somebody you have for a couple weeks is perhaps overstated. But still, taking a foster kid for any length of time is no small matter. I’m happy to grant the Bachpersons some credit for their dedication to the foster program.
And proud we are of all of them.
Hunter Gathers - August 29, 2011 | 6:01 pm · Link
OT - but Romney plans to shoot himself in the foot and go ahead and end his quixotic quest for the White House early.
Nice knowing ya, Mittens.
Don’t fell bad for him, he’ll be able to console himself in one of his many luxury homes.
Via teh GOS
Derf - August 29, 2011 | 6:02 pm · Link
Why no arm waving wide eyed posts about the stock market lately Cole? Could it because all your bullshit about how it’s tanking because (insert todays shiny object) was just that. Utter shit?
P. Kirby - August 29, 2011 | 6:03 pm · Link
If I Only Had a Brain, Tales of a Minnesota Scarecrow
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 6:04 pm · Link
+1. This thread really needs some kind of Vote plugin.
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 6:04 pm · Link
My Fight by Michelle Bachmann
Simultaneous publication in German translation.
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 6:05 pm · Link
@Derf: Oh for crying out loud, can’t you give it a fucking rest? Stop shitting on comment threads with your stupid off-topic axe grinding.
Splitting Image - August 29, 2011 | 6:05 pm · Link
The Will to Glower.
PurpleGirl - August 29, 2011 | 6:08 pm · Link
@cathyx: Some (most) of them she had only for a few months or weeks. It was interim care until other arrangements were made.
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 6:09 pm · Link
@cathyx:
I’m not disagreeing with you at all. And I can’t say at this point whether I had the impression from Bachmann herself or from the media reporting on the foster kids, but the implication was strongly what the social worker said, that she had taken all 23 in as babies and raised them to adulthood. It has a touch of the “brave little tailor” about it.
But heck, even if she took in only one child and fostered it for a long weekend, that’s more than I’ve ever done. So I’m not going to be churlish on this point.
@Poopyman:
LOL
fhtagn - August 29, 2011 | 6:09 pm · Link
She’s Come Undone
(with apologies to Wally Lamb)
An Inveteracy of Dunces
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 6:09 pm · Link
The God Confusion.
Another Kiwi - August 29, 2011 | 6:10 pm · Link
Fostering children is a brave and public spirited thing to do. No matter how long it is done for. 23 kids is an amazing amount.
So it’s Good things:1 versus crazy arse behaviour: 1 gazillion.
If she was running on her credentials as a foster parent, she would be a front runner but she is not.
Her book should be called: Crazy Arse: the spirit of a nation
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 6:10 pm · Link
The Handmaid’s Fail.
Elliecat - August 29, 2011 | 6:11 pm · Link
@cathyx:
Not to mention, I think it was in the New Yorker piece that I read that most of them were teenaged girls with eating disorders. One young woman was interviewed who said the Bachmanns had helped her a great deal.
trollhattan - August 29, 2011 | 6:11 pm · Link
Prediction: This thread is going to get another Kthug link.
Michele: My Hell.
Formyle - August 29, 2011 | 6:12 pm · Link
MMMBach
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
I’m OK —You’re Not Gay.
trex - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
“Shun Dark: The Maid of Orlytaitz”
Roger Moore - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
The Audacity of Nope
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
Let us not forget the title coined by our very own Blog hosts.
(Edited for proper credit: coinage credit belongs to Wag.)
BGinCHI - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
The Incredible Whiteness of Being.
To Have and Have Not, But Mostly To Have.
sb - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
@Margarita: And we have a winner.
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 6:13 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H):
I agree. See my 64 to cathyx and Poopyman.
Bago - August 29, 2011 | 6:15 pm · Link
Crazification sighting. here.
Narcissus - August 29, 2011 | 6:16 pm · Link
Lord of the Flies Part Two: Bachmann Boogaloo.
fhtagn - August 29, 2011 | 6:18 pm · Link
Stare-faced Messiah
William Hurley - August 29, 2011 | 6:20 pm · Link
Any idea whether the printed copies will ship with “shelf dust” pre-installed?
Jay in Oregon - August 29, 2011 | 6:21 pm · Link
The Beast of the Marcus
Violet - August 29, 2011 | 6:22 pm · Link
Psycho.
PIGL - August 29, 2011 | 6:23 pm · Link
@c u n d gulag: and today’s winner the internets is….
PIGL - August 29, 2011 | 6:23 pm · Link
@c u n d gulag: and today’s winner the internets is….
MikeBoyScout - August 29, 2011 | 6:23 pm · Link
Eating Raoul – the real untold story
Jenny - August 29, 2011 | 6:24 pm · Link
Crazy, by
Patsy ClineMichelle BachmannSvensker - August 29, 2011 | 6:25 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H):
I agree. Wish Cole would ban him. He offers absolutely nothing, except irritation and boredom. At least the other trolls sometimes offer a point of view, even if it’s stupid.
This one is completely pointless.
Seriously, Cole. Axe him.
bbkf - August 29, 2011 | 6:25 pm · Link
Chootz-pah! the michele bachmann story
BGinCHI - August 29, 2011 | 6:25 pm · Link
Pride and Prejudice
Dennis SGMM - August 29, 2011 | 6:26 pm · Link
Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung
Camchuck - August 29, 2011 | 6:26 pm · Link
“Oh God, It’s Michele Bachmann”
MazeDancer - August 29, 2011 | 6:27 pm · Link
@Margarita:
Very funny. And may fail be how she goes. All too often, the GOP line-up makes Atwood’s original feel like an impending reality.
Whatever the title, it’d likely to have a Biblical reference. Possibly with a hint of her sacrifice and calling from her diety. Though some Founding Fathers quotish kind of original intent thing would work, too.
Of course, can’t rule out an alliterative reference to Democrats’ ongoing treasonous poison of liberty. Or combo of all of the above in some T-shirt snappy merchandise-able emblazonment. Merch boosts photo ops.
Also, it’ll be a great picture of her on the cover. A make Sarah Palin jealous of the great lighting one. That is if she can find someone who knows how to do great lighting – not to mention high-end hair and make-up talent – willing to photograph her.
Elizabelle - August 29, 2011 | 6:29 pm · Link
OT, but I can’t get into the NYTimes or WaPost website.
Just me, or has there been any hacking reported? Safari “cannot find the server” consistently.
Derf - August 29, 2011 | 6:29 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H): Appreciate the luv my little furry groupie.
Turgidson - August 29, 2011 | 6:29 pm · Link
Seems like this post may be a good candidate for the newly minted “because of wow” tag. I’m sure all of the bullshit claims she makes in her book will be sourced to “because of wow.”
Violet - August 29, 2011 | 6:30 pm · Link
Rear Widow.
Sorry, was that too far?
JPL - August 29, 2011 | 6:30 pm · Link
@P. Kirby: Clever
@Violet: True
MikeBoyScout - August 29, 2011 | 6:31 pm · Link
My Struggle (will not be distributed in Germany)
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 6:32 pm · Link
@Elizabelle: NYT comes up for me.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 6:32 pm · Link
He Ain’t Gay, He’s My Husband
or
Twenty-Eight Is Enough
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JPL - August 29, 2011 | 6:32 pm · Link
@Violet: lol..I and my lap wish that I hadn’t taken that sip of wine.
Jay in Oregon - August 29, 2011 | 6:36 pm · Link
Barbarians at the Gate
Derf - August 29, 2011 | 6:37 pm · Link
Now her spokesperson is saying all that crazy god talk was just a joke….ha…..ha!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/....._blog.html
So joking about natural disasters is so much better than trying to scare stupid old christian teabaggers apparently. Of course it’s ONLY a ‘joke’ when those morAns aren’t around.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 6:39 pm · Link
@cathyx:
Particularly over being exploited and farmed out through some ‘Christian’ placement agency instead of normal channels.
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Derf - August 29, 2011 | 6:41 pm · Link
The dripping puss and blood from her festering wounds are on YOUR hands COLE!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/.....?hpt=hp_t2
trollhattan - August 29, 2011 | 6:41 pm · Link
@MikeBoyScout:
IC what you did there.
TFinSF - August 29, 2011 | 6:42 pm · Link
It’s not a lie if you believe it
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice - August 29, 2011 | 6:44 pm · Link
@RossInDetroit:
First Prize for most subtle Godwinning yet (MikeBoyScout gets Honorable Mention), but it’s still Godwinned.
John O - August 29, 2011 | 6:45 pm · Link
The idea that an anti-homo crusader and his beard can get any votes pretty much proves the “whimper but not bang” and “decline of the American Empire” theories, IMHO.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ - August 29, 2011 | 6:46 pm · Link
@MazeDancer:
The book of Jobs: America at the boil-ing point.
MikeBoyScout - August 29, 2011 | 6:46 pm · Link
Jeebus Has Been Perry, Perry Good To Me
Cris (without an H) - August 29, 2011 | 6:46 pm · Link
@Derf: See? Posting on topic, however tangentially, isn’t so hard.
Elizabelle - August 29, 2011 | 6:48 pm · Link
@RossInDetroit:
Thanks. Still can’t get into it at all, but appreciate your checking.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 6:49 pm · Link
Buy This Book Or Jesus Will Leave You Behind When The Rapture Comes
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Gravenstone - August 29, 2011 | 6:49 pm · Link
@c u n d gulag: You first, dude.
gbear - August 29, 2011 | 6:50 pm · Link
My Life In The Bush Of Gheys.
TFinSF - August 29, 2011 | 6:50 pm · Link
Chapelle was right—it is a hell of a drug
vonhonkington - August 29, 2011 | 6:52 pm · Link
tangentially related: religious folks, in particular, home schoolers.
i was listening to detroit public radio the other day, and the host was talking about home school organizations around detroit. i can understand wanting to home school in detroit. so the host had 2 or 3 people on to advocate for these things. one question he asked was what the first a parent should do to prepare for homeschooling. the answer without hesitation was “christ”, which was disappointing because i’d hoped they wanted to defend alternative education. when asked to elaborate, this person basically said that christ would lead you to the right decision, but that you definitely need a relationship with the holy dude before you can do anything. the leading-and-following talk was so pervasive, it was as if every relationship (deity-person,teacher-student,$noun1-$noun2) could be boiled down to this.
what i took away from this is that these people don’t “make decisions”, they are led to them by jesus, which strikes me as irresponsible. two things: a) if i lived like this, would i say that jesus led me to eat a turkey sandwich today? did he lead me to choose green bed sheets? would he tell me what time to get up in the morning? at what point would thinking about your situation enter into this? and b) do people really think like this? or is it an excuse to sound pious?
Dennis SGMM - August 29, 2011 | 6:53 pm · Link
While we’re on the subject, Bachmann explains the meaning of hurricane Irene:
LINK
Gravenstone - August 29, 2011 | 6:54 pm · Link
@Margarita:
/applause
Tonal Crow - August 29, 2011 | 6:54 pm · Link
“The Young and the Mindless”
Derf - August 29, 2011 | 6:54 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H): Yea, I thought the CNN story on the tortured Libyan nanny was quite appropriate as well.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/.....?hpt=hp_t2
John O - August 29, 2011 | 6:54 pm · Link
The Lying Game.
MikeBoyScout - August 29, 2011 | 6:54 pm · Link
@109 Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
but, but, but… the topic was provide the title of a book by an aspiring crazy politician with simultaneous delusions of persecution and grandeur while not having an original thought of her own and a tendency to misappropriate history.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 6:55 pm · Link
Down With Darwin!
.
birthmarker - August 29, 2011 | 6:55 pm · Link
@vonhonkington: I once had someone tell me that she was praying to God that someone would give her a purple umbrella for Christmas. This is a true story.
feebog - August 29, 2011 | 6:56 pm · Link
“If you’ve got the money, I’ve got the time”
Roger Moore - August 29, 2011 | 7:00 pm · Link
@MazeDancer:
The Gospel According to Michele
Jay in Oregon - August 29, 2011 | 7:00 pm · Link
@Dennis SGMM:
Overheard on Twitter:
@rudepundit: No shit Irene was a message from God, @teambachmann. The message was “Climate change is real, you fucking idiots.”
Jay in Oregon - August 29, 2011 | 7:00 pm · Link
And back to the topic…
Tribulation Farce
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 7:01 pm · Link
TEAse: The Michele Bachmann Story
.
Redshift - August 29, 2011 | 7:01 pm · Link
@Elizabelle: May I recommend http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/? It’s a neat resource that lets you easily get an idea if there’s a general problem or just one local to your ISP or region.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 7:05 pm · Link
Tetched by an Angel.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 7:11 pm · Link
Is That You John Wayne Gacy?
ThatLeftTurnInABQ - August 29, 2011 | 7:12 pm · Link
The Eyes Have It
TenguPhule - August 29, 2011 | 7:14 pm · Link
Pride and Prejudice.
punkdavid - August 29, 2011 | 7:15 pm · Link
Michele Bachmann: Off The Kcuf
Michele Bachmann: I’m Looking Through You
TenguPhule - August 29, 2011 | 7:18 pm · Link
Men are from Mars, Bachmann’s coming for Uranus.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ - August 29, 2011 | 7:19 pm · Link
GET OUT: the Amityshlaes-ville Horror
Calouste - August 29, 2011 | 7:19 pm · Link
@birthmarker:
A few weeks back I was in a drugstore waiting for the pharmacist to get my prescription. In came a couple to pick up a prescription for one of them and the woman then started to go off on how they had prayed to Jesus that their pills would arrive and now they had (apparently they knew the pharmacist, who didn’t seem surprised). I was literally thinking why these people were out on the street instead of locked up in an asylum. It’s modern day logistics people, not magic.
Villago Delenda Est - August 29, 2011 | 7:20 pm · Link
The Unbearable Lightness of Michelle
TenguPhule - August 29, 2011 | 7:22 pm · Link
Pretty Pretty Bang Bang
Wait, that’s Perry’s Book.
PaulW - August 29, 2011 | 7:22 pm · Link
Michelle Bachmann and the Deafly Harrods
Yutsano - August 29, 2011 | 7:23 pm · Link
Esther in the City.
(too subtle?)
Linda Featheringill - August 29, 2011 | 7:25 pm · Link
@RossInDetroit:
:-)
Ruckus - August 29, 2011 | 7:26 pm · Link
@vonhonkington:
It’s a great way to not be responsible. A child of 6 uses the same excuse when they blame their brother or sister for whatever they get caught doing. (If Danny hadn’t poured water on the cat I wouldn’t have set it on fire to dry it off.) There may be any number of reasons to do or not do something, following some mythical, Joey made me do it construct is childish.
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 7:29 pm · Link
@Linda Featheringill:
This is the only blog where I would expect at least one person to get it.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 7:29 pm · Link
The Anger Games
Actually, that could be the title for any GOPer’s bio.
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TenguPhule - August 29, 2011 | 7:29 pm · Link
The Mind’s Eye is Blind.
Tonal Crow - August 29, 2011 | 7:30 pm · Link
“How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Embrace the Crazy”
TenguPhule - August 29, 2011 | 7:31 pm · Link
The Idiot’s Guide to Deceiving Idiots.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 7:32 pm · Link
A Brief History of Whine
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Roger Moore - August 29, 2011 | 7:36 pm · Link
@vonhonkington:
I think they make decisions because that’s what the voices in their heads tell them to do. They think the voices are Jesus, other people think they’re space aliens. I think there’s a whole book on the subject, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 7:40 pm · Link
Nearly 2 hours might just be enough for this scintillating thread.
NobodySpecial - August 29, 2011 | 7:40 pm · Link
The Lyin’ In Winter.
JPL - August 29, 2011 | 7:42 pm · Link
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): You a tad grumpy after you commute to the big city? Wasn’t that today?
Tonal Crow - August 29, 2011 | 7:43 pm · Link
Someone used this one of Palin’s book a few months back, but it’s equally applicable here:
“The lyin’, the witch, and the wardrobe”
MaryRC - August 29, 2011 | 7:43 pm · Link
@JGabriel:
I don’t think the placement agency was specifically Christian. The agency was PATH (Professional Association of Treatment Homes) which doesn’t appear to have any religious affiliation. It’s an association of child welfare agencies that finds placement homes for children undergoing therapy or medical treatment, as an alternative to staying in a hospital. The girls who stayed with the Bachmanns were undergoing treatment for eating disorders at the University of Minnesota.
When Bachmann refers to her 23 foster children, it’s easy to jump to the same conclusion that many have made here: that these were children from broken homes, neglected and lost. It doesn’t seem to have been quite like that.
These girls apparently had homes, they were staying in Minneapolis for outpatient treatment that wasn’t available closer to home.
So they weren’t actually “in the system” for years, they just needed a place to stay, in a homelike atmosphere instead of in an institution.
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 7:46 pm · Link
@JPL: I got to a wreck on 20 right after it happened and was able to get by it. Five minutes later and it would have been a parking lot. Have you seen the purple signs on the new HOV’s on 85? It’s looking like the rainbow flag out there!
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 7:46 pm · Link
MaryRC: That’s a bit more impressive. I got the impression that she was associated with some sort of shady fostering organization, though I wondered where they were getting the kids from. Your explanation makes more sense. Thanks.
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WaterGirl - August 29, 2011 | 7:49 pm · Link
@JGabriel: OT, but happy that NYC fared better in the storm than I feared it might.
moonbat - August 29, 2011 | 7:49 pm · Link
Tea and No Sympathy
Her (Other) Eye Was Watching God
Woodrowfan - August 29, 2011 | 7:50 pm · Link
providing a temporary place to stay for 23 kids was admirable. Using them to act as if she raised them is scummy as hell.
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 7:51 pm · Link
@WaterGirl: Topic? This is a topic?
Woodrowfan - August 29, 2011 | 7:53 pm · Link
@vonhonkington:
what i took away from this is that these people don’t “make decisions”, they are led to them by jesus, which strikes me as irresponsible. two things: a) if i lived like this, would i say that jesus led me to eat a turkey sandwich
remember, these people are authoritarian followers. they are not comfortable making decisions, even simple ones, and want someone else to make them for them, even if that means making the choice themselves then crediting (or blaming) Jesus.
birthmarker - August 29, 2011 | 7:53 pm · Link
@MaryRC: I am not trying to take away from the value to these kids having a safe shelter provided to them, but can it properly be called foster care? The kids weren’t in state custody? Seems like an exaggeration to call it foster care.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - August 29, 2011 | 7:56 pm · Link
Holy God, I skimmed over this post a while ago and chuckled, now I actually read it and see that John Fund is her co-author. That’s freakin’ hilarious. Is that a case of starbursts, or has he had some religious awakening on top of his Reaganism?
Bex - August 29, 2011 | 7:57 pm · Link
Oral History: My Life and Times After Marcus Sent Me to Law School.
birthmarker - August 29, 2011 | 7:58 pm · Link
@moonbat: These are both really good!
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 8:01 pm · Link
@birthmarker:
When I was a kid my parents took in a foster child. She was 15 years old and pregnant. This was in addition to the 8 people already living in our small house.
She was with us for 6 months until her child was born. That 15 year old is a grandmother now and my mom is still in touch with her. She surprised everyone by marrying the father of her child, divorcing him, marrying him again, divorcing then marrying for the third time. Our lives would be poorer without her.
Margarita - August 29, 2011 | 8:01 pm · Link
American History DSM-IV.
0whole1 - August 29, 2011 | 8:02 pm · Link
Is “Pride & Prejudice” public domain yet?
Captain Howdy - August 29, 2011 | 8:02 pm · Link
“Atlas Hurled”
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 8:03 pm · Link
@Roger Moore:
Oy. Interesting book, but …
One person I knew thought it had the best explanation of consciousness he’d read (in the first or second chapter, IIRC), another critic called it “the best theory he’d ever read that couldn’t possibly be true.”
Having read the book, I kind of agree with both of those assessments. One of the more glaring problems I noticed was that the breakdown seemed to require genetic changes in the corpus callosum, but there was no way for those changes to propagate to the Americas in the time frame Jaynes postulated. And I don’t think anyone would claim native Americans don’t possess consciousness.
On the other hand, you have to love any book that contains the index entry, “Gods, 282-283. See also, Hallucinations.”
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different church-lady - August 29, 2011 | 8:04 pm · Link
Well, isn’t that the whole point of modern presidential runs?
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 8:04 pm · Link
@0whole1:
I think you can’t copyright the title of a book. Cory Doctorow keeps writing stories with ‘used’ titles, and he should know.
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 8:07 pm · Link
@Roger Moore:
When I started dating my now-wife 15 years ago she didn’t take me seriously until she saw I had a worn copy full of bookmarks. It’s kinda nuts but Has some good ideas and interesting ways of thinking about consciousness.
Bruce S - August 29, 2011 | 8:09 pm · Link
Kool-Aid for Elephants?
Only because Steve Tyler already used “Does the Noise In My Head Bother You?”
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:10 pm · Link
@vonhonkington:
Yeah. I’m never sure how they reconcile the “everything I do, I do because Jesus led me to do it and I do only what he tells me to do” mentality, and the “personal responsibility, rugged individualism, by your own bootstraps” philosophy.
(ETA: I use the terms “mentality” and “philosophy” in the loosest possible way.)
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 8:11 pm · Link
@different church-lady: You need to use the reply button so some of us dimwits have an idea what the hell you are talking about.
JGabriel - August 29, 2011 | 8:14 pm · Link
@WaterGirl:
Thank you. We were lucky. So much of the surrounding areas were hit hard, but NYC was spared the brunt of the storm. At least Manhattan was. I hear ocean-facing parts of Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, and the Rockaways suffered more.
I have very little patience with the people who are complaining that the city overreacted. The truth is that it was a big-ass storm that did a lot of damage, and we’re just lucky that that some of the biggest, most populous, and most expensive targets in its path (DC & NYC) were spared the worst of it.
And my sympathies to those who are still cut off from power or suffering other storm-related difficulties. I was just on the phone with my mother a couple of hours ago, who’s not expecting power to be restored, in NE PA, for another 2-3 days.
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srv - August 29, 2011 | 8:15 pm · Link
I’ll Get You, You Gay Soshulists, And Your Little Dog Too!
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:16 pm · Link
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Hee. That’s exACKly what they look like, and I see them twice a day, five times a week.
Thanks, Raven. You’ve just improved my commute immeasurably!
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 8:16 pm · Link
@srv: You couldn’t afford the vet bills!
Bruce S - August 29, 2011 | 8:17 pm · Link
I noticed that “A First-Rate Madness” is on the NYT’s list. How about “A Third-Rate Madness” from Michele?
(That leaves me the option of “Second-Rate” if I ever deign to do my own memoir.)
Raven (formerly stuckinred) - August 29, 2011 | 8:17 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne: I used to stop a the Farmers Market on Satellite on my way back to Athens, now there is no reason to stop :(
MaryRC - August 29, 2011 | 8:17 pm · Link
@JGabriel: Yes, the placement agency seems above-board, the social worker assigned to the Bachmanns spoke well of them, so did at least one of the fostered girls …
It’s just the way that Bachmann plays this up. She has said that she and her husband “raised” these girls. She likes to tell the story that they had so many children in their home at one time that they had to knock down walls to accommodate them all (they were licensed for 3 children at a time and apparently never had more than 2). She has said that she had to buy groceries for her own 5 children and 23 foster children, as though all 28 were living in her home at one time. Her oldest children are in their late 20s and would have either been living away from home or at least old enough to help out when she was fostering these girls from 1292 to 2000 but she gives the impression that her own children needed her care at the same time.
I think she just likes the way that her stories sound. I think she did the same thing with that story about submitting to her husband’s orders to study tax law even though she didn’t want to. I’ll bet nothing remotely like that happened—she just happened to be talking to a conservative Christian group one day and thought this is what they’d like to hear. No-one has questioned her, until now.
John O - August 29, 2011 | 8:18 pm · Link
I’m OK, My Husband is So Gay.
Elisabeth - August 29, 2011 | 8:19 pm · Link
@Margarita:
{{{snort}}}
Bruce S - August 29, 2011 | 8:23 pm · Link
#181- ...(ETA: I use the terms ‘mentality’ and ‘philosophy’ in the loosest possible way.)”
My word-smithing impulse would suggest “pathology” and “nostrum” as more appropriate alternatives.
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:24 pm · Link
@JGabriel:
Good grief. Julian Jaynes. Haven’t thought about him or the book in years. I think I read it ( or made some kind of attempt) when i was about 35. And I think I lifted my dad’s copy after he died—he was an admirer. I should dig it out and see if it makes more sense to me now than it did close to the same number of years ago.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - August 29, 2011 | 8:24 pm · Link
Speaking of books, listening to Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson talk about about Despicable Dick, I hope The Sneer gets lots of media over the next few weeks, trying to justify the Iraq War and run down Colin Powell (whom I also despise, but the enemy of my enemy may prove useful).
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:29 pm · Link
@Bruce S:
Vast improvements. Thanks.
RossInDetroit - August 29, 2011 | 8:34 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne:
I was particularly struck by his analysis of Homer. Odysseus as the first completely conscious character in fiction. Able to lie blatantly because nobody saw deception coming.
And that the structure of logical thought derives from the linear form of verbal communication and not the other way around. The implications of that occupied me for a lot of long nights.
Arclite - August 29, 2011 | 8:35 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H): Don’t feed the troll, and it will whither and die.
WaterGirl - August 29, 2011 | 8:40 pm · Link
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Point taken. But it didn’t say open thread, so i was trying to be polite.
Svensker - August 29, 2011 | 8:45 pm · Link
@TenguPhule:
FTw.
WaterGirl - August 29, 2011 | 8:46 pm · Link
@JGabriel: They would have complained if there hadn’t been all the hype and planning, especially if the storm had stayed on its expected path.
Seems to me with these hurricanes and tropical storms that it’s a crapshoot. But anyone who is in the expected path and doesn’t prepare is nuts, i think. I like to think I would be grateful rather than bitchy if where I lived was spared.
Complainers want to complain.
Mike in NC - August 29, 2011 | 8:48 pm · Link
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Caught something on TV tonight about how Deadeye Dick throws Powell and Rice under the bus in his new extravaganza.
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:51 pm · Link
Arclite – August 29, 2011 | 8:35 pm · Link
@Cris (without an H): Don’t feed the troll, and it will whither and die.
Um . . . Without an H, please :-)
SiubhanDuinne - August 29, 2011 | 8:54 pm · Link
@RossInDetroit:
Okay, that is fascinating, and I’m ashamed to admit I barely remember that. I will certainly go back and reread it (or, more accurately, will probably be like reading it for the first time).
Rabble Arouser - August 29, 2011 | 8:57 pm · Link
My Pet God?
Akadad - August 29, 2011 | 9:05 pm · Link
A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The White House
srv - August 29, 2011 | 9:09 pm · Link
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Book title, channeling the Wicked Witch.
The boss - August 29, 2011 | 9:18 pm · Link
Midnight in the Garden of Good ‘N Crazy
ER RN - August 29, 2011 | 9:20 pm · Link
Minnesota Bachmann and the Insensible Crusade
Roger Moore - August 29, 2011 | 9:25 pm · Link
@MaryRC:
Reminds me of another Republican candidate’s story about flying home to Alaska after her water broke. They like to tell stories that make them sound heroic.
Roger Moore - August 29, 2011 | 9:29 pm · Link
@Mike in NC:
FTFY. I’m sure he’ll be expecting them to apologize for getting in the way of his shot any day now.
Arclite - August 29, 2011 | 9:30 pm · Link
@Derf: That is quite horrific. What would possess a person to so torture another human. The wife must be psychotic.
Arclite - August 29, 2011 | 9:36 pm · Link
So many good ones in this thread. Another post or update with the best ones would be a good idea.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen - August 29, 2011 | 9:39 pm · Link
Making the Beast with Two Bachmanns.
Fenwick - August 29, 2011 | 9:58 pm · Link
@bobbo: Winz
Southern Beale - August 29, 2011 | 10:34 pm · Link
After the spectacular fail that was the Christine O’Donnell book deal, I have to wonder how much longer publishers—even winger ones funded by GOP moneybags—will continue to offer these people book deals.
Then again, these winger publishing outfits aren’t at all concerned with selling books or making money. They are 100% propaganda organs, just like the Washington Time and Fox News. They’re all about spreading the message, polishing the image, selling the brand. Book deals give authors a chance to appear on the “LIEberal media” and get people like O’Donnell on NPR and CNN … though she was bound and determined to ruin those opportunities. But Bachmann is too smart for that.
Anyway, it’s all part of the game, just more political theater.
DaveInOz - August 29, 2011 | 11:07 pm · Link
Stare Way to Heaven
punkdavid - August 30, 2011 | 12:05 am · Link
@DaveInOz:
Brilliant!
TenguPhule - August 30, 2011 | 4:24 am · Link
The Phantom Gay Menace.
TenguPhule - August 30, 2011 | 4:26 am · Link
There and Back Again, A Grifter’s tale.
schlemizel - was Alwhite - August 30, 2011 | 7:10 am · Link
@cathyx:
No, what makes it unimpressive it that those who have spoken out say they were sent to public schools while their children where home schooled. Additionally the foster kids got the household chores so their kids could have more time for study and ‘other pursuits’.
These stories are not untold.
kay - August 30, 2011 | 7:46 am · Link
@MaryRC:
Me too. That story doesn’t have anything to do with foster children. Not one thing.
This is Russell Banks on his mother’s storytelling. His mother lied all the time, which he didn’t figure out until he was a grown man:
“When people think a story isn’t true, when they believe it’s only a fiction and not about them, they don’t listen to it, they interpret it.”
We’re (you and I) “treating her story as a clue to her psychology”, because it doesn’t ring true to us.
RossInDetroit - August 30, 2011 | 8:06 am · Link
@kay:
Reagan loved to tell stories. “In Russian there is no word for Freedom” he would say. Then some one would point out that Svoboda (sp?) means freedom in Russian. And he kept right on saying it. There’s an element of truth in fiction but you really should sell it as fiction.
satby - August 30, 2011 | 9:03 am · Link
@cathyx: Dead thread, but I did it with 27 kids. Sounds amazing, but the reality is it’s not that hard. Most kids in short term care tend to be on “company” behavior for the whole time. And for short term placements, not all are seriously troubled either. And I’d love to hear from some of Bachmann’s former foster’s too.
parenthetical - August 30, 2011 | 10:10 am · Link
Krazee-Eyez Killa: The Michelle Bachmann Story
parenthetical - August 30, 2011 | 10:14 am · Link
Hot and Godbothered
parenthetical - August 30, 2011 | 10:15 am · Link
Gopher Broke
parenthetical - August 30, 2011 | 10:21 am · Link
The Oddball from St. Paul
kay - August 30, 2011 | 10:21 am · Link
@RossInDetroit:
I interview foster parents all the time and they’re very specific on each child. There’s an active resistance to any attempt at grouping, or generalizing the experience, ie: making it about them as the parent.
I don’t know why she keeps repeating the number, but I don’t believe it has anything to do with “foster children she has known” or “a child”. I wish she would stop doing it. It makes me cringe.
Hawes - August 30, 2011 | 10:34 am · Link
The Needs Help
Are You There God? It’s Me, Michelle.
Farewell To Charms
Everything That Raptures Must Converge
Me Talk Crazy One Day
The World According To Harpy
TenguPhule - August 31, 2011 | 12:57 pm · Link
Rapture Red