Excellent. Woke up to a nice sunny morning to discover that the wingnuts have now taken the Weiner story to the next level, complete with counter-top inspections of some poor woman who made the mistake of, well, being. It never stops with these assholes.
Open Thread
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Just Some Fuckhead
Anyone checked the kerning on the tweets yet?
Scott
Someday, whenever the court cases are decided, Andrew Breitbart is going to make a number of women very, very rich.
Fred
And of course YOU are more than happy to keep the story going aren’t you Mr. Galt. Oh yea, I got your number.
Bruce S
Honoring our commitments – Memorial Day reminder of how well socialized medicine, via the VHA, has been working for our veterans. Rated better at significantly less cost than the profit-centered health care industry:
http://titanicsailsatdawn.blogspot.com/2011/05/veterans-administration-hospitals.html
gbear
@Scott: At the rate he’s going, it’ll be a class-action suit. The guy really can’t stop himself.
Roger Moore
@Fred:
Give it a fucking rest, Mr. Blogstalker.
RossInDetroit
Punish the victim, then move on. Predictable.
piratedan
@Fred: Mr. Slate called and said that you’re late for work.
Professor
There is a post on the GOS that debunked this non story ‘Wienergate’
Judas Escargot
Funny thing is, the young lady unequivocally denies any affair/relations with Wiener (in the link). Were Wiener a Republican, that would be considered the end of the story, wouldn’t it?
(Yes: question, rhetorical, SATSQ, etc. Just sayin’).
Totally OT but just realized that both Wiener and Breitbart are frequent guests on Bill Maher’s show. Wonder which one he’ll choose, now that he pretty much has to.
KCinDC
A possibly significant development is that Howard Kurtz, who’s never met a Democratic p*nis scandal he could resist obsessing about, has pronounced the story bogus (and says “twerps” was an autocorrect error for “tweeps”).
KCinDC
Damn, I forgot I used a word that’s relevant to this topic but may occur often in spam.
WereBear
@Scott: It’s second best to making women very very happy, but so few conservatives are capable of that.
David
☞Grand Old Pantysniffers☜
Fred
@Roger Moore: Flattery will get you no where.
KCinDC
The point was that if Howard Kurtz says a Democratic s*x scandal is bogus, that might be an indicator that it’s losing traction.
General Stuck
And it won’t stop, and is encouraged by the winger powers that be who no longer consider any pol oppo behavior out of bounds for themselves and those who act on their behalf.
National republican leaders are at best indifferent, and increasingly promoting this kind of pol politics by personal destruction, aided by the internet and it’s ugly underbelly to traffic in this nasty shit to a wide audience.
And in the case of the quasi/outright racist behavior, they actively participate in the smearing. And any factual shortcomings that undermines their effort to gotcha liberals is dismissed out of hand, and victims like the young lady in Seattle and her friends and family are just considered collateral damage.
The GOP is politically at about total war with dems and liberals, where there is no shame nor remorse, save for not winning by any means necessary, just short of outright violence, and sometimes even that.
When Nixon’s CREEP thugs did this shit on the sly, and then got caught, it was generally frowned upon as something bad. Not anymore
Fred
@Professor: John Galt Cole is showing his true colors by trying to keep it going. Second concern troll story on it in the last 24hours. He’ll probably post a couple more before the day is out.
Mark S.
Via Roy, the always idiotic Robert Stacy McCain has an imaginary interrogation with the young lady in question:
Confession time: ten years ago I once referred to Jennifer Aniston as “my girlfriend.” I sincerely apologize to Ms. Aniston and for any confusion this might have caused.
shortstop
@Judas Escargot: Don’t be silly. She referred to the congressman as “my boyfriend, Anthony Weiner” in a tweet, and it’s not like that expression is ever used in jest to simply mean, “I admire this person.” It’s a wholesale admission of guilt!
shortstop
Ha, I see my boyfriend, Mark S., and I were thinking along the same lines.
The Dangerman
@Scott:
The asshole will piss off the wrong boyfriend and we will have a Shawshank Redemption style solution to the harassment problem.
Larime the Gimp
@Fred:
Pot, kettle on line 2!
RossInDetroit
If I was held accountable for everything I’ve ever written online in 18 years I’d be straitjacketed in a padded room typing this with my nose.
El Cid
I’m shocked that something this distorted would come out of the office of esteemed Senator and science expert Tom Coburn (R-Luna):
Yeah. Like in these times when we’re all tightening our belts we need some lady scientist gettin’ kids to play with dolls. Ha! They do that on their own!
We don’t need no book larnin’ girlie type to pretend she needs to test what makes boys be boys, either. What she needs to do is figure out how to stop all these kids from choosing to be fagz.
The general point, though, holds: you cannot trust scientists to know what is and isn’t science.
For that you need leaders like Coburn, in touch with Real America.
General Stuck
@Fred:
Some of your comments do send off the faint aroma of freshly fucked rat.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@shortstop:
ZOMG what if she said she wanted to have his babies?
would she be a homewrecker, or a kidnapper? brietbart reports, you decide.
KCinDC
How is the United States going to maintain its technological lead unless we subject all scientific research proposals to a strict test determine whether Tom Coburn thinks they sound funny?
Larime the Gimp
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: She’s a liberal. She’d never say she wants to have his babies. She’d say she wants to ABORT his babies. Get it right!
John Cole
DougJ- Excellent work.
I’m dying over here.
piratedan
@Fred: well our indifference to this crap has cost people their jobs Fred, folks at NPR, Shirley Sherrod, for example. When these dirty tactics are exposed and found to be wanting and when the right stops sanctioning them, maybe that will be even more newsworthy. On a slow day when this kind of crap has the opportunity to run amok without the appropriate blowback, careers are ruined, lives get ruined all for the sake of counting coup. Your “concern” about JC “concern trolling” is duly noted, naturally the penalties suffered by these muckrakers hasn’t stopped them from crafting this constant flow of crap to discredit innocents and promote false equivalency for their own vile deeds. Do us all a favor and go down and wave a flag at your local veterans event. Maybe that will make you feel better. I know it works for me.
shortstop
@General Stuck: As a devoted amateur student of the Nixon presidency (which I was too young to be really aware of at the time), I’m continually shocked and saddened by the vast difference in accepted standards of political conduct then and now. I read books and news coverage of the era, particularly those interviewing GOP members of Congress, and I’m struck by how genuinely outraged people on both sides of the aisle were by Nixon and his staff’s behavior — not just in the case of the Watergate cover-up, but in all the activities of CRP and the Plumbers’ Unit. Except for a few outliers like Trent Lott who continued to support Nixon until the end, people were truly shocked and angered by Nixon’s behavior. There was no doubt whatsoever in most Republicans’ minds that he had to go and people had to be prosecuted.
I compare this with the literally anything-goes shit going on now and I’m inexorably sad.
Violet
@Mark S.:
This is the dumbest thing. I have frequently referred to celebrities, politicians, whatever as my “boyfriends”. I even give them various titles: my “TV boyfriend”, my “Political boyfriend”, my “Talk Show boyfriend” or whatever. It’s a joke. My friends and family know it’s a joke. It just signifies I happen to like the person in question, as in, I think they do a good job, I vote for them/watch their show/whatever.
Honestly, anyone who is trying to make something of that comment of hers is really overreaching.
Jay in Oregon
What else is there to say, JC?
They’ve jumped on top of this story, now they have no choice to grab hold with both hands and ride it until they get a satisfying conclusion.
The Dangerman
@shortstop:
Jazz Superluminar
@RossInDetroit
to be fair though, you probably didn’t write anything this stupid.
Choice quote:
shortstop
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: @Larime the Gimp:
Nicely played.
shortstop
@Violet: Slut.
Just messin’ witcha, girl.
ETA: I have a healthy handful of boyfriends in Congress. Mr. Weiner is one of my East Coast boyfriends; Al Franken is my main Midwestern squeeze; Henry Waxman holds my heart on the West Coast.
Fred
@Larime the Gimp: Hey, you are just like patriotusa76. I suppose you will try hack my twitter account next. Thanks for thinking I am so important.
arguingwithsignposts
@John Cole: Is this some kind of homage to m_c/hgw/ga?
Fred
@General Stuck: Awww, that’s so sweet. I’m blushing.
Jazz Superluminar
@John Cole
Whoever’s behind it, I think Fred’s been one of the best ideas I’ve seen here in a while. Kudos, and nice attempt at misdirection.
Fred
@Jazz Superluminar: That’s a good one. I suppose next you are going to say you are sure Failin is running because your cat gave you a sign.
You are kidding right?
Violet
@shortstop:
Heh. So many boyfriends, so little time.
There’s also the arguing over “whose boyfriend he really is” issue. I remember when watching Colbert a few years ago with some girlfriends, I piped up and said, “He’s my Talk Show Host boyfriend” and they all jumped in and said, “No! He’s mine!” There we were “arguing” over whose “boyfriend” Colbert was, when yes, we all know he is a happily married family man and none of us has ever met him. But by golly, he’s our boyfriend! Step off! LOL.
Edit: Can’t be certain I put Colbert in the “Talk Show Host” category. He might have been just generic “TV boyfriend” or even “Comedian boyfriend.” No matter. He’s still one of my boyfriends.
Jewish Steel
So much lawn mowing. It sounds like panzer divisions have occupied my neighborhood this morning. Memorial Day recreation?
sukabi
@El Cid: hard to believe that Coburn is a licensed physician (OB-GYN)…. you’d think he’d be a tiny bit interested in the science behind hormone levels and their effect on development… both in the uterus and after birth…
or maybe that’s all behind him and his new chosen profession is bagman / blackmail negotiator…
Fred
@piratedan: Wow, a real reply. How ….urrum…refreshing.
Sounds like we are both on the same page. John Galt Cole is either naive or concern trolling. He still seems to be willing to give Briebart the benefit of the doubt.
Let me say that again.
John Cole is giving BRIEBART the benefit of the doubt. BRIEBART. What part of that do you Cole defenders around here NOT understand?
John Cole voted for the texas dummy twice. Worships Greenwald. Likes a Libertarian for Prez candidate even thought the guy is against child labour laws and civil rights laws. And you people are defending him.
Just wow!
different church-lady
@RossInDetroit:
You know, that image would serve to explain a whole lot of the stuff I read on the tube-nets nowadays.
shortstop
@Jewish Steel: American lawn worship has 501(c)(3) status.
ETA: Screw the accidental copyright symbol. I’m not wasting time figuring out how to change that.
Violet
@Fred:
Who or what is BRIEBART? Is that some sort of cheese eaten on the Bay Area train system?
grandpajohn
@Violet:
ahhhh the always present very judgemental some peoplewho of cvourse remain nameless.
Other than unnamed wingnuts in the media and on blogs, Who are these people, name some of them, Link to them whatever. And the war of slander, vilification, character assassination continues. Can anyone point out one wingnut that has a conscience, a soul, any shred of integrity. Imagine the shock on judgement day when they here the words “Depart from me I know ye not”
El Cid
@piratedan: No one who can pretend to view themselves as opposed to concentrated power and wealth and on the side of leftists and especially the poor liberating themselves can ignore the destruction of the only major organization which represented and organized poor and minority communities over wages, voting, rights, and the like.
ACORN. Okay, so, sure, Democrats pissed themselves and found an opportunity to vote to destroy ACORN and also eliminate a source of Democratic voters from minority communities. But that organization existed and did incredibly valuable things, and wasn’t just a coda on an analysis of a political party.
If a person like Breitbart is allowed to operate as a source with access to the major media without continually presenting his fraudulent, racist, and anti-woman propaganda, and ignored in favor of ‘more important things’, then you’re just begging for other worthwhile targets to be taken down.
Chyron HR
@Fred:
And did you know that he used to be a REPUBLICAN?! The horror!
piratedan
@Fred: ummm, no he isn’t… my clues were those key descriptors like “assholes” and “wingnuts” listed in the open thread text area.. Perhaps in your own personal lexicon those descriptors have positive translations; for the rest of us not living in Bedrock, they don’t.
Roger Moore
@Jewish Steel:
You must feel just like those prisoners subjected to sleep deprivation as part of “enhanced interrogation”.[/hoekstroika]
Alex S.
@Jay in Oregon:
Maybe Weiner’s bulge will be their hill to die on.
Jewish Steel
@shortstop: I like it better with anyway: ©
Jewish Steel
@Roger Moore: Now I know what the Maginot line felt like.
KCinDC
Dan Riehl is now claiming (don’t worry, link is to Tbogg) that access to Weiner’s Twitter account might allow access to classified computer systems? And thinks that if an account is hacked Twitter automatically detects it instantly and unverifies it? Glad we have such experts on the case.
grandpajohn
@Fred: Well hell Fred, When I get upset and discouraged with a blog that I am currently reading, I stop reading it and find another that is more to my proclivities
Of course you could do as others have done and start your own
John Cole
@Fred:
No I’m not. I openly mocked them yesterday for an entire post, and then again today.
The only thing that has your panties in a bunch is that I said I wouldn’t be surprised if a congressmen did something this stupid. Hell, Clinton almost chucked away his Presidency for a fat intern. Chris Lee just threw away his job so he could post craigslist muscle shots to lure trannies. And so on.
So no, it wouldn’t surprise me if Weiner were this stupid. Something happens to people like this, or they are just built differently and think they can get away with shit like this, and that is why they run for office and you and I don’t.
But just because I wouldn’t be surprised if he did do something this dumb is in no way an endorsement of the notion that I think he did do it. What is so hard to follow?
KCinDC
Sigh. I don’t even know what word triggered the spam filter this time.
sukabi
@Violet: Breitbart: a highly contagious venereal disease, contracted through illicit panty sniffing activities and spread through contact with willfully ignorant media carriers…
CAUTION: PROLONGED EXPOSURE WILL CAUSE RETARDATION, BLINDNESS, AND THE INABILITY TO REASON. AND ALSO A CHEESY DISCHARGE.
BO_Bill
When performing a comparative sex-scandal analysis between Republicans (Ensign, Foley, Arnold) and Democrats (Rahm, the IMF guy, this Weiner guy), the impartial will conclude that Democrats are much more creepy than Republicans.
harlana
i’m waiting for the Guiliani Tweetgate
Citizen_X
@Mark S.: So someone publishing “an imaginary interrogation” tells someone with a fake boyfriend that they’re being “inappropriate?” Interesting.
And just for the record: Angelina Jolie was NEVER truly my “love slave.”
Robert Stacy McCain, however, really is my bitch.
sukabi
@BO_Bill: Oh really?
Jazz Superluminar
@Fred
well I didn’t really understand your point about my cat, but I think you may be onto something with Cole. He’s done his whole schtick about not being a Republican (conveniently after Shrub started to decline in popularity, especially with glibertarians…), he does constantly fluff the Brazilian fag on here, and he invited known libertarian-curious EDK to post here, and helped enable Kain’s transparently false conversion to slightly-not-libertarian ratfucking. I don’t really understand why people with non-Republican points of view post here, given that the host is laughing at them with his stupid posts, rendered in the style of an unruly 5 year old with no knowledge of, well, anything.
On a unrelated note, I find it hard to fathom why people don’t like you much, even though you articulate the majority view here more clearly than most.
Roger Moore
@John Cole:
Nah. Plenty of ordinary people throw away their marriages for the same dumb reasons. The only difference is that the politicians get their name in the news when they do it.
Violet
@sukabi:
Fred didn’t say Breitbart. He said Briebart. Three times in one post.
danimal
@sukabi: Coburn (or more likely, his staff) is just playing a game that McCain and others have perfected over the years. By re-representing legitimate studies into ridiculous-sounding catchphrases, they hope to kill funding to agencies they don’t like. I wonder what other types of programs are funded by the National Science Foundation? Perhaps climate change???
Coburn the physician is dead*; long live Coburn the politician!
*unless you are a philandering GOP congressman, in which case patient-doctor privilege may be invoked to hide the evidence.
sukabi
@sukabi: and yet more Repub’s being “sexy”…
Citizen_X
@sukabi: I think I might just go with BREITBART: A CHEESY DISCHARGE.
piratedan
@El Cid:In total agreement, although quite a few folks admitted after the fact that ACORN had its flaws that didn’t help their cause. I just despise the fact that these guys (Breitbart and O’Keefe and their ilk) can just gin up anything and be considered a relevant source.
harlana
given the young woman’s statement, this whole thing is now a completely open and shut case, whatever subsequent obsession with this nonevent the panty sniffers might have left. what we are witnessing here, as all around us, is right wing implosion desperation, enjoy the show
stuckinred
@Jazz Superluminar: You know I went to the Memorial Day post only to read you running your mouth about who should give what to what and now I come over here and you are even more obnoxious. Why don’t you take a walk and spare us what the fuck you think?
sukabi
@danimal: yes, I know he’s being a “politician”, but there isn’t a requirement that you’ve got to check your brain at the door to play…
@Violet: Definition still applies… Fred has obviously been affected, thus the cheesy discharge and inability to reason.
Jewish Steel
Fred is a device through which we may put any words into John Galt Cole’s mouth we can imagine.
Not only does John endorse Gary Johnson but he also gave a widely derided Malaise speech and furloughed Willie Horton to crime up the neighborhood. /Fred
That is kinda fun.
different church-lady
@John Cole:
JOHN COLE
Y U NO STARVE TROLL?
FeFiFo
Best/worst quote from Free Republic: “Blah. Blah. Blah. The poor dear. She says she’s a victim. Sounds like your typical democrat, huh? No wonder Rep. Weiner “followed” her.”
This from the party that made the white male Christian demographic into the biggest victims of all.
FeFiFo
Best/worst quote from Free Republic: “Blah. Blah. Blah. The poor dear. She says she’s a victim. Sounds like your typical democrat, huh? No wonder Rep. Weiner “followed” her.”
This from the party that made the white male Christian demographic into the biggest victims of all.
Just Some Fuckhead
This seems like a pretty stupid thing to be arguing over.
different church-lady
@Jazz Superluminar: All you had to do was work the word “pie” in there and you would have won the internets.
shortstop
@Jewish Steel: Not only did John send money and hair bows to Jean Schmidt but he also dresses in earth tones and defended Minneapolis airport bathroom sex.
Not only does John circle the veteran wagons around Allen West but he also still has an incandescent bulb in his furnace room “waiting for it to burn out” and showed everyone his gallbladder scar on national TV.
You’re right; this is entertaining.
Alex S.
There’s only one possibility to find out the truth: We need to see the weiner!
Fred
@piratedan: He is suggesting that this Wiener story has legs even though it is emanating, like a bad stench, from the Breitbart cesspool.
Anyone who believes this story is either naive or concern trolling.
Fred
@Jewish Steel: Why are you doing this on Memorial day. Why do you hate the troops? That’s unamerican doncha know.
I was waiting for him to address the Willie Horton thing before bringing that up.
moe99
If PBS can get hacked, why not Weiner?
gbear
@Just Some Fuckhead: Nothing is too stupid to fight about on Balloon Juice.
RalfW
This is the fall of Rome, redux, via Twitter. Only instead of feeding Xtians to lions, we’re feeding the masses on fake scandals, while the cities burn.
I mean really. How many times does sewer gas have to erupt from Brietbart before (nearly) everyone in America says he stinks?
I cannot believe electrons are being waste on this. The housing market sucks, the GOP wants to destroy the bond markets, and we’re panting over a possible picture that isn’t that different from the one I saw on a package of high-end designer tighty-whiteys in Dillard’s department store last Tuesday.
Nutella
Fred and Jazz, you seem to be offended by the content of this blog but somehow you keep on reading it and being offended by it. May I suggest that you people are too sensitive and should just get over it already?
bago
@Fred: If only there were a medium to mock a trending story on memeorandum…
John Weiss
@sukabi: Only goes to show that one can be a dimbulb as well as holding an MD. I’ve met a few.
Fred
@Jewish Steel: If a tweet from Wiener to Willie Horton showing a boner in underwear showed up as a screen grab only on Breitbart’s website John Galt Cole would be on here saying “it’s possible”. “I just want to know the truth”. “Just trying to figure out what’s going on that’s all”. “I could see Wiener doing this”.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@gbear:
there is nothing wrong with that!
though i do wish we had some style rules, folks had to conform to, such as, referring to this particular topic as
“brietbart’s weinergate”
Jewish Steel
@shortstop: John strapped Rosie to the roof of his car and…Wait, no. That might actually come to pass.
superluminR droid
@Nutella
Well it would certainly be improved if you stopped depositing ass-dribble like that comment on it. Maybe you too are a shill for glibertarian interests? Why not go suck John Galt Cole’s Koch, huh?
stuckinred
@gbear: And yet here you are.
PaulW
Breitbart Delendus Est
stuckinred
@superluminR droid: You know a lot about sucking don’t you genius?
El Cid
@piratedan:
So? They were there. They existed. They actually did what they did.
There certainly weren’t any non-flawed options waiting in the wings.
Maybe I’ve missed it, but I haven’t seen and I don’t recall any grassroots organizing in poor and black and minority communities for living wages, housing rights and access, registration and voting coming from more mainstream, smoothly run, liberal and Democratic Party affiliated organizations.
I’m sure they’ll get around to it eventually.
I guess we just need to wait for somebody to show up to do all those things, on their own, spontaneously, to do the same, and without all those unfortunate and risky flaws.
And when that’s done, maybe they can be taken down by a fraud video making it seem like they helped support pimps and prostitution.
Jewish Steel
@Fred: I cannot follow your line of reasoning through things that you made up and things that I made up here.
But promise us you will keep your gimlet eye on Cole and report back at the merest whiff of his intransigent hypocrisy? After all these years and his 1000s of bad faith posts, at last, we have a champion who can penetrate John “Willie Gault” Cole’s tangled skein of lies.
God Bless You, Fred.
Xecky Gilchrist
@shortstop: it’s not like that expression is ever used in jest to simply mean, “I admire this person.”
Yes indeed! We shouldn’t wonder that righties take that so literally after seeing how they treated the crosshairs drawn on Gabrielle Giffords’ district!
Violet
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:
“Gate” is so tame. Perhaps “Brietbart’s Weiner Piece” or “Brietbart’s Weiner Reduction” or “Brietbart’s Weiner Wound.”
Johnny Coelacanth
@Jewish Steel:
Not only did John Cole endorse Chamberlain’s foreign policy, he was fully behind Germany’s notion of Lebensraum so long as, and I quote, “only the Polacks get it in the neck.”
Svensker
@Alex S.:
LOL
gbear
@stuckinred: I wasn’t arguing anything, just making an observation. Thanks for providing backup.
aisce
@Jazz Superluminar:
so, so classy. way to get fred off the hook.
is hate speech a bannable offense or not?
shortstop
Snort.
That is all.
Jewish Steel
@Johnny Coelacanth:
When I hear the word Hamsher, I reach for my gun.
-JohnWillie GaultCole
stuckinred
@gbear: And I made an observation as well.
shortstop
@aisce: Not when it’s proffered in sarcasm that mocks the person the commenter is talking to, no.
Johnny Coelacanth
@aisce: I thought he said Brazilian flag. Which fag is the Brazilian? I mean, I should be able to make them out by their careful grooming, but I can’t be bothered to get the pants off everyone.
shortstop
@Jewish Steel: weeping with mirth.
shortstop
@Johnny Coelacanth: Attending samba events is simpler than universal depantsing, for sure.
@stuckinred: Lord! What time do those Memorial Day picnics start in Georgia, anyway?! Take it easy with the swinging-in-all-directions stuff, guy.
brendancalling
actually, there’s a way to make them stop. and it sure as fuck ain’t lawsuits.
You hire someone to take care of business. It’s as simple as that. “No man, no problem.” And yeah, that seems extreme, until you realize that that is EXACTLY what the Breitbarts of the world intend for the rest of us.
And seriously, no one would care for more than 10 minutes.
arguingwithsignposts
@Jewish Steel: I hear John Galt Cole shot a hamsher in Reno, just to watch her die.
piratedan
@El Cid: not sure what your point is…. I agree that ACORN did good work. I stated that I thought what O’Keefe and Breitbart have done is reprehensible. If you have a fight regarding this, it isn’t with me. I have heard that the folks that organized ACORN are starting anew, stating that they have learned from what took place before. So if you’ve mistaken me as being an “enabler” for Fred or for those folks that perform these right wing hit jobs, its a case of mistaken identity.
shortstop
@arguingwithsignposts: This stuff is even funnier when you think that our host is probably snoring shirtless in his Barcalounger as we speak.
shortstop
@shortstop: Wait, do I mean La-Z-Boy? Which Old Man Chair does Cole favor? From which piece of furniture does he conduct his stealth libertarian sorties?
The Tragically Flip
Every right wing mob investigation goes like a bad parody of your typical Spanish Inquisitor, where the goal is to goad someone into making incriminating statements, speciously taking clear sarcasm/jest literally and interpreting every ambiguity or turn of phrase in the worst possible light. So you confess he is your “boyfriend!”
It’s all “when did you stop beating your wife” all the time with these people. Sophistry and casuistry are the only means of debate and discussion left to them, they so long ago abandoned reason and logic. I think when you stop talking sense for too long, you actually forget how to do so.
Sixers
I want to believe Weiner but how big of a coincidence is it that he tweets that he’s going on the Maddow show at 9 and then gives out what time that will be in Seattle? Why Seattle? Total blind coincidence that the “victim” lives there? I don’t know, man. My bullshit detector is beeping. And don’t give me the girl denied it..It is not uncommon for one party in an affair to lie to cover it up. So this guy maybe cheated on his wife or was just flirting. Don’t matter to me but lets not be sheep and pretend nothing shady is happening.
Jewish Steel
@arguingwithsignposts: And this after his mama told him to be a good boy and never play with guns. Shame, John “Richard Dent” Cole. Shame.
The Tragically Flip
@Sixers: Unless someone confesses, I suspect we won’t know the truth. This will just be one of those things swirling on the margins of Weiner’s career (and hers too).
Certainly as Cole says other politicans have done equally stupid things. Then again, that patriot76 clown seems obsessed with Weiner and if it was a hack, might have known Weiner was in Seattle and made use of that to make the sting more plausible.
The thing with public figures is that they’re vulnerable to spear-phishing hacks, as targets of prominence, hackers will entice them to visit malicious websites or view malcious emails and gain control over their computers. It’s not beyond impossible that Weiner was hacked.
stuckinred
@shortstop: Yea, that “making an observation” is pretty raw stuff.
arguingwithsignposts
@The Tragically Flip:
Hell, pbs got hacked last night over the wikileaks doc.
Sixers
@The Tragically Flip:
Seattle. Explain why he mentions Seattle where that girl lives hours before that crotch shot comes out. I can’t ignore that coincidence. Brietbart and his crony’s seem to be welcoming an investigation into a hack so thats not a great sign for Weiner either. Again I don’t care what Weiner does in his personal life but all I’m seeing here as a defense is “Breitbart Sucks!” and “who know’s, we may never know”. Not the strongest case for Weiner.
shortstop
@stuckinred: Right, focus with laserlike literalness on the one comment and ignore your whole pattern of pugilism this a.m. Damn, you’re cranky today. Have some potato salad.
stuckinred
@shortstop: sweet potato salad and I feel fine
Citizen_X
@Sixers:
Mayhaps you should back way the fuck up and start explaining to us why we should give a crap. Especially before you start tossing around the “sheep” shit. And sorry, but yes: “Breitbart is a proven, pathological liar” is a perfectly valid reason for ignoring Shit Breitbart Says.
Gustopher
I really wish Brietbart’s mother had aborted him. World would be a better place.
different church-lady
@Johnny Coelacanth:
Slacker.
different church-lady
@Sixers: Yes: instead let’s be sheep and assume something shady IS happening.
Because either way it amounts to bleating.
WereBear
@The Tragically Flip: And they have already done the movie: My Cousin Vinnie was based on such misconceptions; yet that was a deliberate comedy.
Bill Murray
@Violet:
The only real replacement in this case is Breitbart’s Weiner Mobile. his baloney has a first name
Snarla
It is sad and hilarious that people who have mastered the internet sufficiently to find at least a fake news source like Breitbart’s nevertheless think that someone saying, “my boyfriend, Leonardo DiCaprio” denotes a real relationship.
Gotta go now. My boyfriend, Newt Gingrich, wants me to be there for a meeting with my boyfriend, Donald Trump. And my boyfriend, David Koch.
The Tragically Flip
@Sixers: Weiner was actually in Seattle for some reason as I read things.
Both scenarios are possible: 1) that he was in seattle, and decided to hit on a co-ed twitter follower of his who was in the city to see if she’d meet up with him, and 2) that a hacker waiting for a chance to do something to him took a golden chance.
#1 is probably more likely, but #2 can’t be ruled out considering the ratfuckers making a stink about this. Nixon had people search a psychiatrist’s office for incriminating material on an enemy. Stranger shit has happened and occam’s razor is a poor guide here.
So, again, who really knows? If Weiner uses his twitter account to pick up adult women, it’s really difficult to get outraged about that.
Sixers
@Citizen_X: @Citizen_X:
Awesome defense of Weiner. Wait no it wasn’t. It had nothing to do with him and was just hating on Breitbart. Yea Breitbarts an asshole and a proven liar but what does that have to do with this? He jumped on a story you want ignored. Why did Weiner mention Seattle in his tweet hours earlier? Can someone answer that without mentioning Breitbart?
ChrisNYC
If only Weiner would release the long-form certificate of non-affair. The Hawaii secretary of state has it in a vault, I understand. Until he comes up with conclusive proof of the negative, you really gotta wonder what the Congressman is hiding….
Tim, Interrupted
@Jazz Superluminar:
I support your privilege to write whatever rotten spooge you want here, but this reveals you as a douchebag way down on the eemom level.
fuck yourself.
Sixers
@The Tragically Flip:
I agree with your first version of what could have happened. The second was just pure crazy on a Breitbartesque level. I’d wager he was just flirting with some coed. No big deal in the grand scheme of things. The absolute refusal to see this as anything else but a plot by the right to expose Weiner as a adulterer by making shit up is akin to the crap the right pulls on a regular basis. Didn’t we all used to laugh at people who tweeted something stupid and then blamed hacking on it? If he was hacked he can find out who did it. The guy who retweeted it says he didn’t hack anyone and welcomes any investigation. Earth to the conspiracy theorists.
John Puma
When does not-so BrightBulb demand a copy of the “long-form” actual Weiner weiner for comparison to the now infamous tweet?
Shoemaker-Levy 9
By the way, the young lady indicates that she is from Seattle but goes to school in Bellingham. For those not familiar with our fair state, Bellingham is actually a fair distance from Seattle, 90 minutes if the traffic is good.
Tim, Interrupted
@Sixers:
Fuck off. For someone who doesn’t “care what Weiner does in his private life,” you sure are thinking and commenting about it a lot.
Sixers
I’m commenting on you fucking loons not Weiners private life.
Yutsano
@Sixers: You’re actually saying a lot more about yourself than you are about us loons. And the loon is a proud and noble bird.
Peter J
@Sixers:
Concern Troll is Concerned.
SLKRR
Just for the record, Gillian Anderson was never actually “my wife.”
Glad I was able to finally clear that up!
The Tragically Flip
@Sixers: All I’m saying is that they have in fact done worse to their enemies in the past, and Weiner is a target.
The false equivalence doesn’t really fly, I’m not saying I believe Weiner, only that I reserve judgement given that Blartblart is involved.
Looking at twitter, I don’t know how one even confuses the DM and public tweeting feeds. They’re totally seperate screens, but I guess there are various phone based apps to interact with twitter maybe some of them make this kind of confusion possible.
Mnemosyne
@Sixers:
And yet you don’t find it a coincidence at all that the only person who actually saw this alleged tweet live and took a screencap of it is a guy who’s been stalking both Weiner and this college student for at least two months?
Tehanu
@Jazz Superluminar:
he does constantly fluff the Brazilian fag on here,
I can’t tell if this is meant to be snark or not. If it is snark, massive FAIL. If serious, FOAD, or at least stop cluttering up John’s place with your homophobic bigot crap.
Mnemosyne
@Sixers:
And OJ is still searching for the real killer.
Sixers
@The Tragically Flip:
I’m no twitter guru but a few months back the basketball player Ray Allen claimed he got hacked after some tweets that looked to be meant for a particular follower of his who happened to be a hot chick who wasnt his wife went out for everyone to see about where the two should meant up and ummm…. talk. He claimed he was hacked and maybe he was but it didnt look believable.
Mnemosyne
@Shoemaker-Levy 9:
I’m from Chicago but went to school in Los Angeles and let me tell you, that was one hell of a daily commute.
Sixers
@Mnemosyne:
Do you think a member of congress might know someone who could investigate this? When’s that happening?
Mnemosyne
@Sixers:
Perhaps after the holiday weekend? Or is this such a dire national emergency that Weiner should demand the FBI give up their three-day weekend and start investigating immediately?
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@The Tragically Flip:
or could it be, that maybe he and she had a meetup that wasn’t romantic. if you want to chase every permutation.
Sixers
@Mnemosyne:
I’d imagine hacking a member of congress anything would be a big deal. Palin sent that poor kid to prison. When this gets investigated I’ll think of you and how right you were. When it doesn’t think of me and how much you are getting played.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Violet:
i know, but this is gate in a less frequent connotation, though i do love brietbart’s weiner reduction, as the go-to.
Yutsano
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: Well considering in her statement she said she had never physically met the congressman, it seems unlikely.
Amir_Khalid
@SLKRR:
She used to be my girlfriend back in the day, too.
Mnemosyne
@Sixers:
Uh-huh. Yes, I’m sure you wouldn’t have been screaming that Weiner was wasting the FBI’s time if he put them on full alert on a holiday weekend over his Twitter account.
Sweetie, I wouldn’t suggest putting your faith in Breitbart. He hasn’t even had his Drudge “blind squirrel finding a nut” moment. I feel pretty comfortable not believing a guy whose series of “exposes” have all amounted to jack shit.
quaint irene
Forget actors or politicians.
I often refer to that dishy french chef, Eric Ripert, as my ‘fantasy boyfriend.’
So, does saying that somehow make me a stalker?
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Yutsano:
yes, but if weiner going to seattle is supposed to have any meaning, as some want to speculate, then all it means is that they might have had plans to meet, had this thing not happened, but that doesn’t mean it would be a romantic thing, just a meeting.
Rihilism
@Violet: Yeah, well Stephen is my super-secret husband, so yeah, neener, neener…
@Sixers: Hey, alls I’m sayin’s is a perfectly innocent explanation is unpossible. Stupid sheeple, clingin’ to conspiracy theories when Occam’s taser is on full stun. As the wise have often cautioned, “It’s irresponsible NOT to speculate!”…
cbear
I think it strains credulity to believe that Weiner’s boner tweet was shot from Washington D.C.—hit some chick in Seattle–deflected off her IPAD or something—passed through a known stalker’s computer–and then somehow still traveled to Los Angeles to hit Breitbart in the eye.
In other words, absent compelling testimony from Arlen Specter, I predict that the “single boner tweeter theory” will be discredited and we will discover that there were, in fact, 2 or more boner tweeters.
Shoemaker-Levy 9
@Mnemosyne:
Skimming through the comments I see casual speculation about them hooking up in Seattle, and I just wanted to point out that she said she is from Seattle but living in Bellingham. If they hooked up they went to some trouble. Not that we should really care.
Mnemosyne
@cbear:
You’re acting as though it’s implausible that a guy who’s been Twitter-stalking Ms. Cordova for over a month and repeatedly accusing her of having an affair with Weiner would just happen to be the only person to stumble across proof of the affair on Twitter and manage to get a screenshot before it was deleted.
/snark
Though I will say, I do believe patriot69 when he says there was no hacking involved. I’m pretty sure he manufactured the whole thing in Photoshop, so no hacking was even necessary.
Bill Murray
@cbear: I heard both Breitbart and Wolfe (PatriotUSA76) had boners so there were clearly multiple boners, so your magic weiner theory fails. Plus I just made up that Breitbart calls his junk The Rocky Knoll
Mnemosyne
@Shoemaker-Levy 9:
I was backing you up (or trying to). The fact that Ms. Cordova is from Seattle doesn’t mean that’s where she’s currently living or going to school.
Triassic Sands
All I have to say (or think) about the “Weiner Incident” is included in this sentence.
Back to life.
Shoemaker-Levy 9
@Mnemosyne:
And I find it hard to believe that Weiner needs to travel across an entire continent, and then still be a few hours drive away from her, if he wants to hook up with a college girl. That’s an awful lot of trouble to go to when there are “sweet things from [New York], so young and willing,” but who knows. It’s also difficult to believe that Weiner, who is pretty sharp, would be stupid enough to post a photo like that online, but who knows.
El Cid
@piratedan: I didn’t mean to sound hostile to you. I was making a general point that it’s very frustrating that invaluable individuals and organizations are taken down by such a cheap, racist fraud, and there’s not any significant motivation out there to build them back up or replace what they’re doing.
I don’t have a fight with you. I get extremely pissed about the whole thing.
Mnemosyne
@Shoemaker-Levy 9:
Yeah — it’s not that it’s implausible that a married congressman would have an affair, or even that Weiner would have one, it’s that the details of this specific situation make no sense when you put them together.
Yutsano
@Mnemosyne: But…but…but…SEATTLE! U can’t explain that away now can you? Huh? HUH??
(see? making baseless accusations is easy!)
Suffern ACE
So much lose in this thread. My internet must be broken again.
RossInDetroit
I can’t wait for Stewart and Maddow to get a hold of this. So to speak.
brad
@Shoemaker-Levy 9: Dingdingding. The idea that Weiner would publicly tweet such a thing is ludicrous. Even Chris Lee managed to think ahead and crop his face out of the craigslist pic.
Also, the quickest of googling of concern troll’s Ray Allen example shows that it was one tweet, immediately deleted and apologized for, and which caused him to create a new twitter account just to be safe. And also came less than a week after a hacker group was publicly recognized as having hacked into Twitter to some degree. So… fail.
tkogrumpy
@RossInDetroit: I want video.
tkogrumpy
@General Stuck: I need to know how you know what freshly fucked rat smells like.
tkogrumpy
@Violet: Briebart? I’ll have what he’s having.
Nickws
@BO_Bill:
Wait, Rahm’s sex scandal? You mean the non-sex incident that manic depressive congresscritter invented?
And the Frog guy isn’t American either, though I suppose that mistaken identity could be down to you being a fervent liberal internationalist of some stripe.
Nice to see you support Foley as being non-creepy, dude.
(Apologies if you’re only satirising Villager-think.)
Sixers
@Mnemosyne:
How’s that investigation coming?