Then they came for the soup
By DougJ, Head of Infidelity October 6th, 2010
Campbell’s decides to make their some of their soups in Canada halal. Wingnuts freak out (via):
Hugh, I don’t like what I see there either, it goes without saying there will be no more of their products in my Christian home!
Very Simple. Boycott Boycott and boycott.
We’ll see if this boycott picks up steam.
Posted in Hoot-Smalley
We need more companies like Campbell’s. That way we can starve the stupid fuckwits.
ETA: To the back of the bus, Stuck. :)
October 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Well they could by Franco American instead…but there’s Franco in the name!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I give it to Friday before the media turns this into the biggest story ever and demands Obama hold a press conference denouncing Campbells.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
@mapaghimagsik:
but Franco was our ally, which is why schoolchildren know nothing about him unless they watch old SNL reruns.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
You didn’t quote the best part: “M-M-Muslim Brotherhood Good?”
It should be pointed out that this is Campbells Soup Canada, which is a soshullist country which has already surrendered to the foreigners—apart from the Moozlims and the Asiatics, they gave a whole part of the country to France so they could all look like John Kerry.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Pass a law requiring that every soup have bacon in it! That’ll teach those Jew-hating Muslims!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
@Nick:
You’re right. D’oh!
By the way, is he still dead?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
so if we work to make everything Halal does that mean they’ll all starve?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
They really hate capitalism, don’t they. What if Campbell’s meets them halfway and the soup label on all the new terrorist soup has a picture of Mohammed drawn by Matt Welch?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
All this needs is Rachel Ray in a scarf.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
YES; HE’S STILL DEAD.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
“Said” by unidentified persons “to have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?!?”
Well, it doesn’t get any clearer than that.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Not only is this Campbell’s Soup Canada (just around the corner from my old apartment, BTW), but they’re only offering a selection of halal soups. They are not making every can they sell halal.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
This just in: Franco American Spaghetti & Meatballs is still dead.
BTW, Franco American is owned by Campbell’s.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
They have ties made by Hamas? Are they some sort of terrorist silk?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Soup to Nuts, anyone?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
@MikeJ: Exactly—more evidence Campbells is trying to use drugs in their soup to make kids surrender like the French to the Caliphate.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
@Nick:
You’ve badly underestimated the reaction that is to come. I predict that by noon tomorrow, Martin Peretz will be calling for an invasion of Canada and the imposition of martial law in Camden, New Jersey (where Campbell’s corporate HQ is located).
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I fucking love this world. Anything related to Islam is like garlic is to vampires for these fuckers, I will never have to deal with one again.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
what makes it halal ? is halal the islamic kosher ? what about making stuff for vegans ?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
@Tom Hilton:
Campbells soup could be the pig greased cartridges that started the Sepoy Mutiny, but in reverse! I give it a week before guerilla christian forces are smearing bacon grease on cans in selected stores to keep the muslim’s guessing, kind of like hanging garlic to scare off vampires.
aimai
October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
They came for the soup… at least a year ago. Look at the date stamp on the product list (PDF).
October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
@Comrade Mary: They can’t make every can they sell halal because that would preclude the use of pork products. They could always try to market to the teabaggers by introducing a line of Crisco/lard soup with extra high-fructose corn syrup. Ummm, ummm good.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
I should think with Campbell’s making products that can be purchased and consumed by the 2 BILLION Muslims in the world that they aren’t terribly troubled by loosing the business of the 30-35 wingnuts that are capable of pushing themselves away from the table. Since that crowd eats far more pork rinds and twinkies than soups, it probably won’t make a blip in the quarterlies at Campbell’s HQ.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
@burnspbesq:
You prefer Sharia law I suppose?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Please. Tell me this is some high tech spoofery.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
OT
Hillary Clinton - Class Act
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Don’t you mean freedom sugar?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@Katherine Hunter: to oversimplify, yes – halal is akin to kosher certification, where it is overseen by some certifying authority. Just making something vegan or vegetarian doesn’t necessarily make it halal or kosher.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I’m not going anywhere near macleans.ca for a couple of days. The thought of Mark Steyn pontificating about this scares the bejeebers out of me.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@Zam:
oops, great minds think alike!
aimai
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@beltane: Well, it would preclude any meat that was not halal, really. And as I said, I know this company and I never thought they would completely change their supply chain and production methods. But from the wingnut reaction, you would think the entire population of Canada would now be forced to eat halal if they bought Campbell’s soup.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@Zam:
Please by all means educate them on the origin of Arabic numerals. With any luck they will all go back to using Roman numerals just like Jeebus and the Founding Fathers intended.
I, II, III, what are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damm…
October 6th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
@Katherine Hunter: Yes, halal is very similar to kosher. I once read that Pakastani immigrants to Brooklyn used to buy their meat in the orthodox Jewish markets because it was similar enough.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
@Zam: Next time the teatards have a rally around here maybe I’ll screen up a “Mohammad(pbuh) is my homie” T shirts.
Last week when I went hiking I poked at a snake nest[1]. Two of ‘em came out. Plain t shirts a little ink can have the same effect with idiots.
[1] Just western garter snakes. Pretty snakes and harmless. I’m not dumb enough to mess with dangerous ones.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Let’s see if the wingnuts successfully intimidate Campbell’s. Or scare Campbell’s into issuing some sort of mealy-mouthed press release acknowledging their “concern” and quasi-apologizing for offending their sensibilities.
Sort of like Protor and Gamble getting intimidated into retiring their century-old “man-in-the-moon” corporate trademark, due to an orchestrated right wing freakout that it was a Satanist symbol.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
@Katherine Hunter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
It’s pretty straight forward.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
@DougJ is the business and economics editor for Balloon Juice.:
In Camden, any kind of law would be a step up. It’s been the Somalia of New Jersey since the 1970s.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
@DougJ is the business and economics editor for Balloon Juice.: I demand the imposition of Marshall Crenshaw.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Surely this was a South Park episode that I missed.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
@burnspbesq:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Did you know that fluoridated water is Halal? Think about that!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
@beltane:
Yes, and it comes in a one gallon can that states that it contains four servings.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
more from the comments:
Nothing wrong with their research skilz, eh?
And this:
OMFG
October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Unlike you USA hating libruls, I for one am opposed to our soup being made from recipes given by Hamas. You don’t know what could be in them.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
My god, I just…what the fuck. Just what the goddamn fuck. What the greasy goddamn fuck.
It’s fucking soup, you morons. It’s fucking soup, you will not catch the icky Islam from eating soup, the same you will not catch it from eating from a Rafiqi’s cart in Manhattan.
My god, how the fuck are we losing to assholes afraid of their own shadows and expecting terrorism in every single thing. I mean, they’re fucking seeing Sharia Law in Campbell fucking soup. Campbell CANADA I might add. This doesn’t concern anyone who’s mostly freaking out about this. And yet this is our new reality. Sufficiently brown, you’re the new enemy. Whether you’re ‘Muslim’ or ‘Illegal’ or one of those ‘Reverse Racist Whitey Haters’, apparently you’re not only not American, you’re actively targeted for hate and spite because apparently it’s your fault America is in trouble. Forget economic shortsightedness or historic Congressional ineptitude. Nope, it’s all about the scary sharia and border crossers stealing yer jerbs.
Fucking god damn all…
October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
@MikeJ:
I thought Marshall Crenshaw could only be imposed in Hoboken.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
@Katherine Hunter:
I’m pretty sure it is magic Soylent Green Mecca dust that turns good God-fearing Christian men and women into America-hating Muslims! Don’t trust wikipedia or the internet sources on what it really is—the internet is all run by soul-less sosoul-Nazicommufashist Obamabots.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
@eemom:
Let’s see here:
Other brands Campbell’s owns…....
US/Canada
Pace (salsa).
Pepperidge Farm (baked goods).
Prego (spaghetti sauces).
Swanson (stocks, broth and seasonings).
V-8 (juices)
All things I have in abundance in my cupboards and pantry and will keep using.
When the teatard sonsabitches stop buying gasoline from the middle east I’ll kind of half way start to respect them.
Here’s an idea—let’s start an internet rumor that middle eastern countries have found a chemical to add to petroleum products that passes through all known refining processes and causes sympathy for Muslims and Islamic beliefs in the exhaust fumes of cars. With any luck my commute time to work will be cut to six minutes in about a week.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
@protected static: Just making something vegan or vegetarian doesn’t necessarily make it halal or kosher.
True – in the halal case, vegan cooking may use wine or other alcohol. I think any vegan dish that doesn’t ought to be OK, but I’m no authority.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
i blame mcnabb, its been years since he and his mom were spokesperson for their chunky soup line, but he is involved somehow, i can feel it.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
This is a follow-on to a smaller panic in the UK.
And this is an old pattern from Whitewatergate days.
1. UK freakout
2. American coverage of UK freakout (Hey, we just ‘cover the controversy’)
3. US freakout
4. Saturation American coverage of US freakout.
You use the UK’s notoriously more bumptious press scene for your Case Zero.
Murdoch perfected it fifteen years ago.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Is there Kosher soup?
Not a lot of difference between halal and kosher.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
As a pinko socialist Canadian, I’m proud that Campbell Canada is doing its part to instill Sharia Law in Canada. Thanks, Campbells!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
@Comrade Mary:
Thank Allah for that! I wouldn’t want to go without my Campbell’s split pea and ham soup.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
@soonergrunt:
Isn’t Campbell’s Condensed Cream of Whatever still the staple ingredient in every Heartland American™ True Christian potluck ‘hot dish’? Without the Campbell’s soup to “dress up” the green beans, how will the fReichtards & Talibangelicals be able to celebrate Thanksgiving?
Maybe this is just a sneaky bidniz strategy for some Galtian RW genius to introduce a line of guaranteed-not-halal creamoid food-greasing canned goods?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
“Stir up the Campbells, Soup is Quds Food.”
October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
@kc:
“Thank Allah for that! I wouldn’t want to go without my Campbell’s split pea and ham soup.”
Allah wants you to be happy, even if you are an infidel.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
@El Cid: Hand that man an internet!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
@El Cid: /thread
October 6th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
We in metro Detroit, who take a back seat in idiocy to no one, have seen halal foods advertised at fast food franchises for about a decade or so.
Amazingly enough, Christians (and Jews) still gobble down Big Macs in Dearborn. The Pat Robertson brigade is always good for a chuckle or two.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
on a much, much less amusing note, on the way home I heard a Democracy Now piece about some of the Muslim Americans who have been prosecuted, sentenced and imprisoned as “homegrown terrorists,” including some guys from New Jersey who filmed themselves yelling “Allahu Akbar” while shooting guns for target practice on a weekend trip to the Poconos. Their tape was turned into the police, and then the FBI, by the place they took it to be copied, and they were sentenced to life + for conspiring to attack U.S. soldiers at a military base.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
@El Cid:
Absolute WIN. Time to turn off the internet.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
@agrippa: Not just Kosher soups, but Kosher soup mixes.
Speaking of which, Knorr Canada has also joined the jihad:
They’re bringing suicide bombouillon straight in from EGYPT!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
@agrippa:
Marty Perez calls you an anti-semite for saying that.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
We also refuse to purchase any products made in China because:
1) They are communist
2) They are not Christian
3) They don’t believe in Democracy
4) They have state sponsored mandatory abortion for anyone having over one child
5) They commit infantcide when they find out their first born is a girl.
BOYCOTT CHINESE PRODUCTS AND THE PLACES THAT SELL THEM.
IT’S UNCHRISTIAN AND IT’S UNAMERICAN
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I’m also a douchebag.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
bows
October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
@Anne Laurie:
That would be Cream of Mushroom and Cream of Chicken. Very occasionally one will see Cream of Some Vegetable.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
@agrippa:
Yep. In fact, pretty much every food package on American grocery store shelves has a mark to identify whether it’s kosher and what kind of kosher it is.
Around Passover time, keep an eye out in your local megamart for 2-liter bottles of Coke with yellow caps on them. Those are manufactured with real sugar, not high fructose corn syrup, because HFCS is not kosher for Passover. You don’t realize until you drink it what a burned-diesel aftertaste HFCS has.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
@El Cid:
Keep it up, yer killin’ me!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
And here I’ve been boycortting Campbell’s for 30+ years because it’s AWFUL. Making it halal won’t make it any less AWFUL.
Halal and kosher require that the animal be wide-awake and conscious when its throat is cut. (No humane stunning in advance because gawd doan like it.)
October 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
@eemom: And a Vietnamese restaurant, too. Not only is Europe being overtaken by Muslims, it’s also being overtaken by commie Buddhists.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Don’t tell the wingnuts, but we have a halal Kentucky Fried Chicken in my neighborhood.
Winning Progressive
October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
@eemom:
Teatards and Wingnuts make The Onion irrelevant.
Remember when Tina Fey spoofed Sarah Palin in an SNL skit and read VERBATIM one of Sarah’s rants on something or another?
I fear for the livelihood of folks like Tom Tomorrow. Although life must be so easy at the Daily Show.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
@Xecky Gilchrist: most will do in a pinch if you’re observant – but not orthodox. That certification is pretty important if you’re orthodox.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
@Moses2317:
they tried to get religious leaders to endorse the menu of the local taco bell, but no one, inside the company or outside, can figure out what is in that shit.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
@MikeJ:
And I demand the imposition of Marshall McLuhan.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Well, I call Roy Halladay.
Hah!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Halladay just threw the 1st no-hitter in the post season since 1956.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I work for a company that manufactures food additives and our plant is certified both kosher and halal because it’s just good business. There is nothing about being certified kosher or halal that would affect a Christian consumer in any way, shape or form.
Personally, I prefer food that has been certified kosher or halal. But I’m not a real American.
This isn’t halal.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
@soonergrunt: When I was a very picky nine-year-old, I could tell the difference between the Campbell versions of ‘cream of mushroom’ and ‘cream of chicken’ as soups, but not in casseroles. (In a working-class Catholic family that still observed meatless Fridays, the distinction was important.) My supertasting Spousal Unit might be able to pick out the ‘cream of broccoli’ in a blind taste-test, but I wouldn’t bet money on it. Basically, they’re meant to coat the tongue with sufficient sodium & milk solids to conceal any other potentially disturbing tastes, not to possess actual flavor.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
@stuckinred:
Holy shit!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
@stuckinred:
Wait, they’re still playing baseball? {ducks}
October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
@Roger Moore:
And I demand the imposition of a million Marshall amps, all cranked to 11, with George Lynch shredding at full tilt.
Time to restore some sanity.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
@arguingwithsignposts: Endless hours of conversation about Futbol. Spit.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
@stuckinred: Gotta love a no hitter wherever it happens, just not today would have been better.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
You don’t understand. Even slight accommodation undertaken voluntarily by a private company in order to increase market share in a group that numbers around a billion persons is the start of the great forcible subjugation of the Western world, whereby we pansy liberals, libertarians, and sane conservatives willingly lay down our beliefs and submit to Sharia because we’re all apparently cowards in the minds of these people.
And being secure enough in my Christian beliefs and political ideals to not turn into a raving lunatic over this makes me part of the grand conspiracy to convert the country to Islam. Who knew?
As I’ve repeatedly said, for people who claim to love America, they sure have a low opinion of Americans.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: So, just what are you implying, that the free market should be free or something? ! Godless Commie.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
@Anne Laurie: You say that, but you haven’t tried my mom’s tuna noodle hot dish that calls for both cream of mushroom and cream of celery. If she makes it with only one of the cream ofs, it just does not taste the same.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Dear Everyone on the Right:
Water is Halal.
Enjoy your boycott as much as I will.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
One of the comments on that site made me laugh:
So much for green bean casserole with Campbell’s cream of mushroom soup. Will American haute cuisine survive?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
@agrippa:
Yes, there is kosher soup. And kosher hot dogs and everything else. In Pittsburgh where I grew up, in Squirrel Hill, you could buy just about Kosher anything. And, lots of people, Jewish and non-Jewish would buy kosher products. And, buying kosher products didn’t mean that after a few weeks your women were wearing wigs, and the men let small pieces of their hair on each side grow long and refused to shake hands with any women not in their families.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
In non-halal food news I just found out Amazon sells jars of pickled polish sausage and I bought a jar…mmmmmmm.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
@RSA:
That shit can die in a fire.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
God that was disgusting.
The Patriots traded Moss for a third round pick? Well, they got him for a 4th round pick, in one of the more lopsided trades of the decade.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
@stuckinred: Hey, hockey season starts tomorrow.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
And they even left out the part about adding “meat glue” in order to improve the texture.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
@RSA: Is there really such a thing as green bean casserole, or is it just an urban legend? In all my years I have never encountered a green bean casserole anywhere.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@Martin:
New South Park tonight!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Newt Gingrich can DIAF and eat a bag of – not gonna say it, but Gawd Damn he done said the wrong damn thing. Happy-Helmet Ren angry here, grrrrr.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
@scav:
Not only that, but my girlfriend is an Ethiopian Muslim. Not only am I a godless commie, I’m part of a sleeper cell.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Considering a can of cream of mushroom / chicken soup is an integral part of 95% of the average wingnut recipe book, it’s just not going to happen.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
@mapaghimagsik:
his body is still dead, but his soul lives on in campaigns across the country.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
When will Howard Dean oppose Campbell’s insensitivity and suggest they compromise?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
My Dad worked for a fruit packing company (biggest producer of applesauce in the world!), and at one time his job involved dealing with the technical aspects of complaint letters.
One of these letters was from a customer who thought he shouldn’t have to ‘pay extra’ for the ‘Kosher for Passover’ certification on the applesauce, since he wasn’t Jewish.
My Dad did the calculation, and replied that the added cost was about $0.0007 per jar, and would he take a check?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
@brick oven bill:
Nope. Fail.
That post was clear and logical and organized. And all the words were spelled correctly. And grammar was good.
Not going to fool me. Nosirree.
Edit for spelling. [My bad.]
October 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
@Roger Moore:
The masjid IS the message.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
@beltane:
Green bean casserole:
http://www.campbellskitchen.co.....peId=24099
October 6th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
@soonergrunt:
Oh, forgot to mention, got my old job back. They hadn’t even hired a replacement for me yet. So I start back at my old desk on Monday, and I know just the wingnut to do this to.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Seriously, though. Message to wingnuts: THIS IS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. STOP TELLING OTHER COUNTRIES AND OTHER COUNTRIES’ COMPANIES WHAT DO TO.
Seriously, just because THEY shit their pants at the idea of a company diversifying their products in order to serve an untapped market segment, that does not give them the right to bully said company with false allegations of terrorist sympathies. It’s crap, it’s bullying, and as a proud Canadian, I’m going out and buying a fuckload of Campbell’s tomorrow.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
@soonergrunt:
So glad you got your old job back!
And very, very happy that you feel you’re are up to it.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford: hhhhmmmm. . . sleeper cells are suddenly sounding a lot more exciting. I clearly need to find a better class of subversives to non-digitally associate with — all the sleeper cells I could find resembled nothing so much as sleep-over cells with cowboy print sleeping bags and footed pjs.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
@soonergrunt: That is good news. I like the idea of starting a rumor.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
@RSA:
Yeah, because you know that no one out there sells generic/store brand versions of Campbell’s products or anything. eyeroll Just deriding your own blockquote, not your snark.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
If you saw a kosher restaurant on the way home and started babbling about Jews taking over, you’d be standing in the unemployment line behind Rick Sanchez.
What is the difference between kosher and halal? Anyone? I’m guessing the halal doesn’t need rabbinical supervision.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
@beltane:
That is not an urban legend. Green beans in cream of mushroom soup, with onion rings on top. The perfect complement to a tuna noodle casserole that also features cream of mushroom soup. Five Fridays out of six during Lent (for some reason, we got anchovy pizza on Good Friday).
October 6th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
What this proves is that it’s not Terrists that they hate, but ALL Muslims.
As if we didn’t know that already…
October 6th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
@soonergrunt: Congrats on all fronts! It’s been exactly a month since your procedure—are you feeling as primo as your comments would suggest?
@Suffern ACE, Anne Laurie: My own secret ingredient? Cream of asparagus. And I do a wicked veggie thing with a combo Stouffer’s spinach soufflé and corn soufflé + many fresh veg. Always a hit :-)
As for Campbells Canada, this is great news. A good colleague at work is Muslim, and I’m leaving tomorrow morning for Canada—Thanksgiving with the relatives. I always do a major supermarket run while I’m there (Owen Sound, if anyone here is familiar with it). So this time I’ll stock up on Campbell’s halal soups for my friend. (FWIW, she brought me delicious treats all through Ramadan; this will be a nice opportunity to thank her in kind if not at quite the same level of yumminess as her brownies.). (Mooslim brownies.)
October 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
@Gravenstone:
But is it the same? Really? :-)
October 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Halal rules roughly parallel the Kosher treatment of animals being killed and the draining of the carcass of blood. There are other similar rules about not eating pork and pork products and mixing of certain foods. Before there were enough Muslims to support Halal butchers, it was very common for them to buy at Kosher butchers. Kosher rules also involve the use of plates and utensils, pots and pans and kitchen stuff. I’m not sure if Halal also involves these subjects.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
I believe almost every item that was vegetarian, or at least vegan, would be halal. It can’t contain alcohol, and if a vegetable soup used chicken broth, the chicken would have to qualify as halal. Pork and beans are out, of course. But I used to buy halal chicken to cook when a Muslim friend came over for dinner.
Barring unusual production practices, all the soups they seem to list are vegetarian are would easily qualify. This seems to be more clever marketing than anything else – well, apart from the insane American right-winger factor.
Also, since several people asked:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....s_compared
October 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@RedKitten:
Well, just remember that these yahoos are objectively pro-bullies. They think it’s perfectly fine to do it to powerless little kids.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@Tom Hilton: Win.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@Arclite: E-zactly. They want each and every Muslim to stay over “where they came from” and for not one drop of Islamic culture to never, ever taint American culture.*
*You know, except for all of the incredible contributions that Islamic cultures have made to the world throughout history, and that we now take for granted, having utterly forgotten their origins.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
@Suffern ACE: Agreed. My mom used to make a hamburger hotdish with one each can of cream of mushroom, cream of celery and cream of chicken soup poured over a couple pounds of raw hamburger, one chopped onion and one large box of croutons. Bake for 1 hour and 350 or until hamburger is done and croutons are even more crispy. It’s enough sodium to choke a horse, full of fat and god only knows what else, but I remember it being incredibly delicious.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
@SiubhanDuinne: S
Get the Campbell’s Creations Rustic Spiced Lentil and Vegetable, or any of the Gardennay flavours—I haven’t had the halal versions, but I have had the regular versions, and they’re really quite good.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
@Linda Featheringill:
Right there with you. I know B.O.B., I’ve read B.O.B., and this is no B.O.B.
And aren’t these the same yahoos who get bent out of shape when people want to boycott that libertarian who runs Whole Foods?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
@Katherine Hunter: Food is halal if the meat is killed in the name of God and no pork is in the kitchen. Observant Muslims can therefore eat kosher with no problem and generally buy kosher when possible. Basically, if Campbells has a kosher line they’d get the same business from Muslims. I think it’s easier to actually keep a halal kitchen because you only have to eliminate pork and not worry about fish/shell fish/dairy restrictions.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
@Michael D.: Brilliant idea Michael, can we add to that list the following:
1) Mountain Dew
2) Cheetos
3) Twinkies
4) Miller Lite
5) Mac n Cheese.
That should do the trick.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
It’s a serious concern. If you bring a kosher product into your home, any child born to you in the duration of its presence becomes a Jew for life according to the Tall Mood. Please see my blog for further information.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
oh noes! just drove by one of these yesterday!! zabiha kfc—-clearly, the terrorists have already won…
October 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
oh noes! just drove by one of these yesterday!! zabiha kfc—-clearly, the terrorists have already won…
October 6th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
@RedKitten:
Shouldn’t that be “the media is the masjid”?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
@John Bird:
LOL. I learned about the Tall Mood in Hebrew School. Right before I got kicked out for skipping class to go eat cheeseburgers with my friends.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
@Roger Moore: Hm, yeah, that probably works better. I was just trying to get that in there before someone else thought of it.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
@PurpleGirl:
The whole bit about using different plates and utensils is about people going overboard in reading stuff into the Torah. The Torah says not to cook a kid in its mother’s milk, and some crazy people think that means you have to completely separate all meat and dairy products to the point of having two sets of dishes and not eating one within 5 hours of the other so they can’t mix in your digestive system. (I’m not making this up, you know!) I don’t think Halal goes that far. AFAIK, shellfish are considered Halal, while they definitely are not Kosher.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I never eat Campbell’s soups at all anymore. They’re hideously unhealthy. Way too much salt and lots of trans-fats. Ugh.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
@Roger Moore: Yeah, Halal doesn’t go in that direction.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Can the wingnuts switch to Progresso, or is that too close to “progressive” and therefore a liberal-soshulist-fascist-Marxist conspiracy?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
There’s going to be a run on Beck’s Freedom Seeds. I can only hope that the nutters try to live on what they can grow.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
The obvious wingnut solution to this problem of terrorist food is to demand that Republicans in congress introduce and pass a bill that forces farmers to water their crops with pork-laced water.
Everything else can be injected with pork. Maybe they can pass a bill mandating pork juices are to be added to the water supply? Mandate yearly pork injections?
With a wingnut mind, there is no limit to what mayhem is possible.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Every time I think I’ve seen the stupidest thing ever come from the crazy right, they out stupid themselves. As John pointed out in a later post, “Peak Wingnut” is a lie. The interval of wingnuttery is unbounded.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
@El Cid: There goes my coffee. You owe me a screen.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
My favorite part of this story is all the blog commenters saying that they won’t eat halal food that has been blessed by a Mooslim. Supposedly Christians, these idiots don’t realize that the issue of eating meat blessed by non-Christians was resolved with the publication of the freakin’ NEW TESTAMENT. They don’t even realize they are contradicting crystal clear instructions (if you’re a believer) given by God to saints Peter and Paul.
IOW, conservatives give the same thoughtfulness and attention to detail to religion as they do to politics.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
@empty: Good luck collecting.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Wait until S&W makes a halal .45 automatic. Then the freakout will really begin.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
@Shade Tail: No canned soup is great, but even store brands these days have slashed the fat and salt.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
@Steve:
Yes, rabbinical supervision is the only real difference.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
@Roger Moore:
if you can marshall, peter, you can have a marshall faulk, which, i’m told can be far more exciting than a marital faulk
October 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
@beltane:
I have a friend who makes an excellent green bean casserole for Thanksgiving.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Halal and kosher are roughly the same. Will the wingnuts also boyott products that are certified kosher?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Sooooo…...
When are all the Muslims rounded up and tossed in an internment camp? Maybe it’s me but I get the feeling that’s where everything is headed eventually. After all:
They want to stop mosques from being built.
They believe that all Muslims are terrorists.
They want to punish food corporations who are willing to cater to Muslim diets (even in Canada).
Basically, the wingcrazies want to make it illegal to be Muslim so I figure internment is their goal.
October 7th, 2010 at 12:40 am
I’m actually okay with this until they come for my Vienna sausages (pronounced Vye-EEH-nah).
. . . God, humor is hard. I just threw up in my mouth a little, remembering those road-trip snacks of Viennas, cheddar cheese and crackers and apples, washed down with six-ounce bottled Cokes, as the Steeplejacks hit the road in the Ford Comet station wagon.
Anybody here read Jean Shepherd’s Wanda Hickey’s Night of Golden Memories and Other Disasters?
October 7th, 2010 at 12:47 am
@beltane:
Years ago, I read in Sports Illustrated that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was able to survive his years with the Milwaukee Bucks because there was a substantial Jewish community there, and plenty of kosher food.
[Hmm, between youth and overseas readers, one should add: Unbelievably great basketball player, converted to Islam about the time he went pro, still holds the all-time record for points scored in professional career: 38,387. Yes, thirty-eight thousand and change.]
October 7th, 2010 at 4:15 am
@beltane: I make one every year for a friend’s potluck Thanksgiving. I’m not a good cook and green bean casserole is very hard to screw up.
October 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
@SiubhanDuinne: Enjoy your trip to Owen Sound. I have relatives there too, and have never been struck by the diversity of the place. You might have trouble finding halal products up there, so try closer to Toronto (or London/Windsor if you’re coming that way)
October 7th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Oh my Allah, I just read through the comments on that site and I’ve lost ten IQ points. I’ve never been so tempted to spoof.
October 7th, 2010 at 9:47 am
half the shit on the shelf in this country has a hechsher on it. nobody seems to give a fuck about that. but no, it’s a mooslim takeover!
i wonder what the naked cowboy thinks of all this.
October 7th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Halal=Kosher
Haram=Traif
I’m sure these “Christians” go out of their way to buy the Kosher versions during High Holy times.
As they sit there getting fat and stupid on nitrate and sodium laden pork n beans.
October 7th, 2010 at 10:28 am
@El Cid:
Yeah, I’ve noticed. Instead of about ten-times too much, they now only have five-times too much. Still way too much. And I studiously avoid all trans-fats, which are basically the fat-counterpart of high fructose corn syrup (i.e. artificial, inexpensive, and extremely bad for you).
October 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
The best Indian restaurant in my neck of the woods is Halal (India has the 3rd largest Muslim population in the world). I discovered it when our Bangladeshi financial advisor gave us a gift certificate. Its post-sunset buffet was packed most days last month :-)
No, he doesn’t advise us on Sharia-compatible investments.
October 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
@Annie:
But Rick Sanchez says that if you eat kosher products for long periods of time you’ll end up running the media.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:46 pm