So basically, Tucker Carlson’s vanity project is now reduced to bitching that liberals were happy that Obama won? That’s impressive. Wonder how much venture capital that scoop cost.
For the record, I was out of town for work, and if I remember correctly, my traveling partner and I got snot-hanging drunk as mean old man McCain and the Wasilla Wingnut were sent packing. I may have even shed a tear. And if you read the true progressive websites, I’m just a dirty former Republican, and that is how much it moved me!
Christ. These people are just losers.
In other news, the National Review Online was happy when Bush won in 2004.
MikeJ
So had Grampa won, we can assume Tucker wouldn’t have been the least bit happy? Or turning it around, Tucker and Fred Barnes and the whole bowtie mafia weren’t the least bit upset that Obama won?
Ash Can
Cripes, is Tucker’s site still up? I thought it would have plowed through
Daddy’sits start-up money ages ago.Hunter Gathers
2004, not quite coincidentally, was also the last time Tucker Carlson enjoyed a non-prescription induced stiffy.
Jager
@Ash Can:
He got a venture Firm to back his little organization? Shit, I’d like to see the business plan and hear the pitch that landed the money.
Daddy-O
What’s good for the goose is NEVER good for the Republican gander.
Fuck ’em raw.
Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle
Hey Tucker!! Eat this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
You douchebag.
Mister Papercut
Quelle horreur! Quick: to the Fainting Couch, Tucker!
Mary G
He’s sulking because no one is paying any attention to his new Journolist “scandal.”
Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle
@Jager: Probably Sciafe and the Coors and Koch families. They fund most of the other wingnut welfare.
ajr22
I was so happy, my roommates and I rolled up some rillos and made a party of it. Can i say that on this blog?
fucen tarmal
hell i remember drunk dialing conservative friends after ohio was called(the faux coverage of turd blossom saying the cons needed ohio or else, just as ohio was called, priceless.)…anyway…we were singing “signed sealed delivered UPYOURS” , lots of folks seemed damned happy, we even managed to get a drink at the bar down the street where the fantasy mugging and carving of the mccain supporter took place, even that old italian neighborhood seemed pretty happy.
matoko_chan
wow Cole is on fire tonight.
is this the manic phase?
;)
Mnemosyne
My favorite moment from the inauguration:
Crowd sings “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye” for Bush
(ETA: It happens at 2:25 and — most awesomest of all — actually interrupts Peggy Noonan’s drunken bloviating.)
John Cole
@matoko_chan: I have clean sheets, a mini-fridge of bottled water, and a piss tube
for the crash.
Actually, I just had coffee after dinner. I simply can not drink caffeine after noon anymore, but some times I slip.
GregB
More evidence that racism is not dead in America.
More evidence that any idiot can spout vile racist crap and then claim that they aren’t racist.
New York state Mayor caught on tape mocking “change”.
Come Help A Ni**er Get Elected.
Nope, he’s not a racist.
NCJ
The punchline is that the last quote posted uses the word “repudiate” correctly.
shecky
Yeah, Cole. Pretty much. AFAICT, the big expose here with this whole nontroversy is the revelation that liberal journalists are liberal.
HE Pennypacker, Wealthy Industrialist
This is missing the rightard speaking point, which is reinforcing the “conspiracy” that the left-wing “journaLIST” controls the media in the US. Remember that it’s axiomatic among the wingnuts that there’s an evil cabal shaping the message of every news story, and that were it not for this centrally-organized Illumiinati-strength bunch of Soviet propagandists the common man would see the plain truth.
Martin
So, financial reform got signed and unemployment benefits extended. Never heard a peep about either one. Mission accomplished Brietbart – two progressive victories and the firebaggers leave the day pissed at Obama yet again.
fordpowers
you’re feisty. i like it.
Mojotron
So whatever happened to his toady who
was run over by Rahm Emanuel, who quickly fled the scenewas clipped by someone from the State Department (who stopped to check on him, contrary to his assertions) after he was jaywalking and later was ticketed for it? For someone who claimed to have have witnesses to a hit & run, I guess none of them were willing to back his version of events.Non-Existent Patricia
Breaking: Winners of contest are happy the other guy lost.
lawnorder
@John
Ignore Jane and those who demand “purity”. You have as much right to be a democrat as they have. More even. You never colluded with the other side.
I respected you when you were conservative, respect you a lot more now that you “woke up”. Intellectual honesty is a lot better than leader/ cause worship.
JGabriel
John Cole @ Top:
That’s just so wrong and evil.
.
Zuzu's Petals
@Mojotron:
Yeah, my thought too.
Interesting that he completely clammed up just about the time the police report was supposed to be released. Blather and bother, and then … crickets.
homerhk
there’s a great comment at the bottom of that Daily Caller post to the effect of “thanks for reminding us how good it felt when Obama got elected”. It was actually kind of lovely to read all the comments from the people on the journolist and brought a tear to my eye.
Two things in particular stood out in the journolist’s comments. First, Michael Hirsch’s comment at the end about Obama’s term being a non-ideological presidency – something which now seems to be a source of misery rather than praise. Second, it’s Obama’s acceptance speech, where he says we may not get there in one year or one term but we’ll get there together. For everyone who expected dramatic change overnight that is the take-home it seems to me. Stimulus, healthcare, financial reform, tougher regulations all round, START treaty (the list goes on). America (or at least the adult portion of it) is getting there…
Kristine
@John Cole: Even GOS said you were on a roll (Y’day’s “Midday Open Thread”).
I had read in more than one place that Carlson had tried to join Journolist and was refused. Maybe someone already noted this, but if true, it would explain his actions. Payback.
Thlayli
@HE Pennypacker, Wealthy Industrialist:
So how did this “evil cabal” do it before 25-year-old Ezra Klein introduced them to the wonders of 1970s technology?
Kristine
@HE Pennypacker, Wealthy Industrialist:
I see they’re projecting. Again.
Remember that it’s axiomatic among the wingnuts that there’s a
nevilcaballitter of fuzzy puppies shaping the message of every news story, and that were it not for thiscentrally-organized Illumiinati-strength bunch of Soviet propagandistsband of brave fuzzy puppies, the common man would never see the plain truth.Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox
Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox
Lovely Fox, wonderful Fox
Lovely Fox, Wonderful
Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox
(lather, rinse, repeat)
::goes to get more coffee::
D-Chance.
Expect another several hundred “Jonathan Strong” missives over the next several weeks/months as they go through every email one-by-one, looking for anyone they can tear into.
Already, they’ve got NPR apologizing to Limbaugh.
TR
Are you sure? I’m going to need to see some documentation on that, maybe check the kerning.
D-Chance.
BTW, this listserve… I assume this is a message board system, same as the old “newsgroups” boards, other than listserve being private, invite-only, where newsgroups were pretty much open to anyone and everyone who dared to click their way onto any of the tens (now hundreds, I think) of thousands of boards?
If so, then for everyone who first joined the internets way, waaaaay back in the day of dial-up and aol… made your first posts… got into your first flamewars… opened your first pr0n .jpegs… maybe downloaded your first songs… you have to wonder what is still out there on some forgotten old server and what is out there for any “enemy” to grab and bring back from the forgotten past.
Just remember… what goes on the internet, STAYS on the internet. Forever.
TR
I don’t know what’s more surprising, how innocuous the comments from liberals celebrating a Democratic victory are, or how insane some of the comments are.
There’s a guy on there with the handle “moonbatkiller.” Totally metaphoric, I know.
TR
Here’s a great comment:
To anyone who speaks English, it’s clear that Toobin thinks Barone is “insane” because he argued — in public, no less — that the only reason journalists trashed Sarah Palin was because she didn’t abort a Downs Syndrome baby. Barone thought journalists were outraged with her for not abiding by their secret liberal pact to destroy the unborn, and yes, that is fucking insane.
But to Tucker’s brilliant readers, Toobin was somehow saying the opposite — that it was “insane” for Palin not to abort a Downs Syndrome baby.
And then underneath that idiocy, another commenter — another reading comprehension genius going by the name “the professor” — wrote approvingly that “This needs to be repeated.”
We really are on the road to Idiocracy, aren’t we?
cleek
@D-Chance.:
it’s even simpler than that: it’s just a mailing list. you send a message to a central email address and it automatically relays anything it receives to all the members of the group (via email).
Listserv.
Google and Yahoo still run their own versions of this.
oh yeah. back when all the old Usenet archives were still around, Google could show me a decade of embarrassing posts.
tim
You folks are maroons.
Any credible journalist would strive to remain deeply skeptical and leery of ALL sides in government, politics, and business for the purpose of maintaining a healthy perspective aiming at objectivity.
Um…that’s not what’s happening here.
These wankers are cheerleading, in the most adolescent/gullible manner, the ascension of a particular candidate and party. Why in the world would you give credence to anything they later “report” regarding that candidate or party?
After reading this, what differentiates Spencer Ackerman from Neal Cavuto? Apparently both are overweight, dark haired hacks; it’s just a matter of choosing a side.
If you want to just accept and content yourself with the idea that NO alleged journalist is credible, and it’s all just various flavors of bullshit, why pay attention to the news at all?
It’s true that no human can be one hundred per cent objective; we all have backgrounds and built in biases. But it should be the journalistic IDEAL to work in the direction of OVERCOMING those biases and always moving TOWARD objectivity, not nourishing tribal loyalties and cliquish identities that inevitably color one’s work, which is what a circle jerk like Journolist fosters.
And yes, god, a million times, yes, John: it never SHOULD be forgotten, most of all by YOU, that you were once a Republican, right wingnut, true believer and sorry, but that informs an observer about your character and should always inform one’s assessment of your writing here.
Hugs.
slippy
@Jager:
I doubt it is a family-friendly description. Probably something involving wetsuits and knee-pads. Carlson is such an incredible loser he probably would do anything at this point to have some sort of relevance in the world.
Bill in OH
@tim:
So no one can ever learn and change their minds? Once someone believes something they must believe it forever, no matter what additional evidence they may discover? Do you actually believe that, or are you just trying to score some easy snark points? Seriously. I want to know. Are you really that intellectually stunted? And you think you can criticize Cole’s character?
Sorry to feed the troll, but I think this kind of bullshit needs to be called out. It’s a big reason for the state of our politics.
Kristine
@tim
Are you saying that even if one reassesses beliefs and realizes they had made errors in judgement and assessment and been led down a merry path, the fact that they harbored those beliefs in the first place taints them for life? That there’s no turning back? That if they want to, people can’t change?
So if John is tainted, and we’re all maroons, why do you come here?
Bill in OH
@Kristine:
Owe me a coke, Kristine!
tim
@Bill in OH:
No, of course not. And your paraphrase is a gross distortion of what I wrote, which was: John: it never SHOULD be forgotten, most of all by YOU, that you were once a Republican, right wingnut, true believer and sorry, but that informs an observer about your character and should always inform one’s assessment of your writing here.
John’s past INFORMS my assessment of his character and writing, it doesn’t DETERMINE it.
Everyone one should learn and grow, as John apparently has. I have a lot of growing and learning to do myself. I don’t expect people who know of errors in judgement I’ve made in the past to FORGET them, but to weigh them against the positives in the opposite regard.
If you weren’t so quick to jump to John’s defense, which he certainly doesn’t need, you might read and comprehend what I wrote BEFORE twisting it into something it doesn’t say.
tim
@Kristine:
Kristine:
Oh dear, I’m afraid I have wounded your tender feelings. I meant “maroons” in reference to the comments with which I take issue on this particular thread regarding this particular matter.
For instance…I am tainted regarding my past mass consumption of alcohol and the behaviors I enabled thru said consumption. I don’t expect anyone to pretend that never happened or that it couldn’t happen again, or that I’m not CAPABLE of such things. I DO expect them to weigh that evidence against the ensuing ten years of sobriety and the benefits thereof. Get it? And I evalute MYSELF based on that evidence too, as should John. I have a tendency to addictive substances and John has a tendency to dear leader worship and hard tribal allegiances, which can swiftly shift.
Also, please see above response to Bill.
As for why I come to BJ despite marooons and taints, why, it’s to quite possibly learn something and keep myself exposed and open to views that differ from my own, testing them through discourse as you and I are doing now.
Do you only hang on blogs and sites at which your exact views are held by a overwhelming majority? Surely not…you sound much too wise for that.
Bill in OH
@tim:
Sorry buddy, but I reread your comment and it still reads to me like “you switched sides, so why should we listen to your opinion?” If you say that wasn’t your intent I believe you, but that really isn’t how the comment came off. Kristine’s response to you indicates that I wasn’t the only one to interpret it that way.
Furthermore, I wasn’t defending Cole. He’s a big boy and can defend himself. I was reacting to what I saw as an example of something that is corroding our political discourse. If you do believe that people can learn and grow and change their minds with new information and that changing one’s mind doesn’t necessarily constitute a “flip-flop” or a reason to ignore the opinions of that person, then we are in agreement at least on that point.
matoko_chan
Im still happy.
=D
tim
@Bill in OH:
I never said or wrote “ignore” but purposely and deliberately used the words “inform” and “assess.”
It’s good to step back and reread, trying to put aside one’s emotional urge to savor a perceived offense, rather than read and perceive the meaning of the actual words that are used.
That said, we’re more or less on the same page, so good enough for me.
Bill in OH
@tim:
Yes I suppose it is, and I would take that advice if that’s what I was doing. It’s also good to step back and read what you’ve written to make sure it actually says what you think it does. For me, the words “inform” and “assess” didn’t have the subtle shading of meaning that you claim. If you want to blame that on my reading skills, that’s fine. But if you put aside your desire to be superior, you might find that your writing was simply unclear and didn’t convey the intended message.
Sorry for hijacking the thread everyone. Moving along.
tim
@Bill in OH:
Bill, are the meanings of the words “inform,” “assess,” and “ignore” somehow unclear to you as being different from one another in the context in which I used them?
Hmmm…how am I displaying a “desire to be superior”? By encouraging you to be discerning and careful in your reading before attacking other commenters?
oops! sorry. :)
Kristine
@Bill in OH: Heh.