Darrell Issa is an odd choice to talk about a ‘scandal’ in the White House. I’m sure this Sestak meme is just bullshit. I’m certain of that in large measure because Issa is the one leading the charge. He is a simple partisan hack who always puts party before Country. This latest episode is just more of the same.
A few years ago, Darrell and his Party controlled Washington. They had both Houses of Congress, the White House and the Supreme Court (now they only have the SCOTUS and most of the celebrity journalists). In 2004 a big scandal involving a lobbyist named Abramoff erupted over Washington. Some 60 members of Congress and the Senate were said to be involved along with untold staffers and many, many members of the Bush White House.
To hear Issa’s current concerns about any potential WH scandal one would guess that he was leading the charge to clean up the Abramoff affair and that Issa demand an independent prosecutor to get to the bottom of the Abramoff lobbying scandal…
hmmmm… nope.
Actually–and I know this will shock many of you–Darrell did the opposite.
Issa had a seat on the Government Reform Committee when the GOP was in the majority. The Minority of the Committee, led by Henry Waxman, conducted one of the only investigations in Congress into the Abramoff affair and like all the others, this inquiry DID NOT look at the many connections of Congress to Abramoff in any way. Waxman’s investigation DID look at the many, many, many connections between Abramoff and the Bush White House. In the course of those investigations emails and evidence linking White House staffers to Team Abramoff were uncovered and investigators were sent to interview these staffers.
Darrell Issa went to one of these under oath depositions not as a member of the Committee, but as moral support for the Bush staffer involved in the Abramoff scandal. Rubin Barreles was the staffer and Issa opened the deposition with these remarks:
Mr. Issa: Briefly. I guess maybe just briefly. I’m here both because Ruben, in the private sector now, represents my constituency on behalf of the greater San Diego Chamber but also because I knew him before, during his time in government, and I have a keen interest both in the continued investigation of Abramoff and also, in this case, the belated nature of this deposition. Meaning, long after individuals have left government, you know, the Abramoff scandal really began and ended well before — well, more than 2 years before Mr. Barrales left public life. So I hope today we can bring to a close, you know, a single deposition of this individual and anyone else since it is such an old case.
Having said that, I do have a keen interest, because the Congress has not yet reformed itself as to lobbying by government entities. The reforms we have done so far do not stop an “Abramoff” from representing in secrecy to a great extent government entities in a government-to-government relationship. We failed to do that reform under ,our ethics rules; and, therefore, we are still just as vulnerable today to somebody like Jack Abramoff.
That is some classic gobblygook. I think it is better than Darrell’s current concern over the non-Sestak frou-frou, but some may disagree. Issa is always entertaining when he acts like he is interested in good governance and he is a skilled lying bastard.
What was interesting about his appearance in the Barrales deposition was that it sent a signal to Ruben that Congress was NEVER going to investigate the Abramoff scandal and that therefore Ruben was free to forget any details–and so he did. The scene could have been lifted from the Godfather with Issa playing the Tom Hagen role.
And now Issa would like a Special Prosecutor to investigate the Sestak non-scandal. Of course he does. I would expect nothing less from such a partisan hack.
When it comes to White House scandals, I am more interested in the one that Issa helped to cover up than the one he is inventing out of partisan talking points.
So, when Issa calls for a real investigation into the Abramoff Scandal let me know. Until then, he is just a joke and more than that–he is an ass.
Cheers
Alex K
So, when Issa calls for a real investigation into the Abramoff Scandal let me know.
Don’t hold your breath.
roshan
Where have you been lately, Dennis?
Dennis G.
@Alex K:
Nope. Instead I am waiting for him to call for a Chicken-Gate investigation. As I understand it, Michelle Obama fed the family a dead chicken and then had the bones used to make a soup (or a stock–that needs more digging). I think the fate of the free world may depend upon getting to the bottom of Chicken Gate!!!
Cheers
Dennis G.
@roshan:
I have been covered up with work from my day job as of late, but the light is at the end of a tunnel…
or perhaps that is just a train… time will tell.
Cheers
Corner Stone
WTF are you talking about? BJ has spent several FP’s and follow up posts telling us all how fucking urgent this is.
I think you’re out of the loop mi amigo.
Corner Stone
@Corner Stone: Oh shit!
It’s Dirty Joe Sestak! He’s here to kill us alllllll!!
Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people)
Weird, my last post just disappeared. Anyway, welcome back!
handy
Yeah but all these Serious People on my teevee are insisting that the WH bribed Sestak out of the senate and that this is a CRIME! I am very concerned about this President’s actions and I think it would be irresponsible not to speculate what other sort of criminal behavior he has been engaging that hasn’t yet come to light.
Little Boots
How can these people not fall asleep contemplating the “Sestak scandal”? I mean, it’s just so obviously a bore to everyone involved, and yet they will keep going on and on about it. But how can they stay awake for it?
Corner Stone
@Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people):
Disappeared like John Cole when he gets called on his Joe Sestak bullshit?
Corner Stone
@Little Boots:
Oh come on. Don’t be so hard on John Cole.
Corner Stone
@handy:
Yeah, but John Cole has assured us this is a major fuckup!
Don’t you trust him to know what’s best for you and the Democratic Party?
I do!
Delia
Darrell Issa played a lead role in the 2003 move to recall Governor Gray Davis in California. Of course he was hoping to leap into the breach himself, and suffered a bit of a disappointment when Ahhnold jumped in, but that’s life. So he’s got to make a pest of himself in Congress instead.
Corner Stone
@Dennis G.:
That’s going to have to wait.
Right in line behind Sestak-Gate!
Corner Stone
@roshan:
Joe Sestak threatened to harm his family if he wrote anything about him before the primary.
And he’d have done it too, if not for those meddling kids!
Dennis G.
@Corner Stone:
@Corner Stone:
Perhaps, I am out of the loop, but this Sestak thing has seemed to be a non-story from day one if you use facts to judge what is a story and what is nonsense. Of course, that entire using facts to decide the meme of the day tactic is way out of fashion.
And so, I can see how nonsense is urgent. As I read the posts about this meme on BJ over the last few days, I took them as comments on the silliness of the Sestak meme and not as celebrations of the same.
But then again, I am almost always out of the loop…
Alex K
@Corner Stone:
Kinda hyper tonight, are we?
handy
@Corner Stone:
You clearly haven’t made good use of the “Archive” feature on this site.
Lancelot Link
The funny thing about this Sestak “scandal” is that Ronald Reagan did exactly the same thing with SI Hayakawa in ’82.
Dennis G.
@Lancelot Link:
The funny thing about it is that anybody would take it seriously. May has not been a month where America’s best and brightest took center stage. Perhaps things will get better in June…
HRA
Sestak was offered a spot on an advisory board if he would stay in the HR by Bill Clinton. In fact it seems like it did not even go further since Sestak refused and there was no push and shove involved. Actually it makes sense if he would have stayed in the HR. Two solid seats for the Democrats in PA is how I see it.
I read where Reagan personally asked Hayakawa to not run in a primary where there were 5 running for the a spot on the primary and Maureen Reagan was one of them. Hayakawa did drop out. I read this at Memeorandum earlier.
IMO Sestak is a fool. TG I don’t have to vote in PA.
Lynn
Ah, but remember that it was Issa that Karl Rove went to when he wanted someone to put up the money for the 2003 recall of Gray Davis. Rove was able to convince him that he, Issa, was the one most likely to benefit by running for Governor.
We all know how that one turned out for him.
I have to guess that someone else put him up to this Sestak business. I just don’t see him doing it on his own.
Keith G
@Corner Stone:
Step away from the tequila.
Corner Stone
@Dennis G.: No Dennis.
Our bloghost came out and said it wasn’t much of anything, then proceeded to make it something against Sestak. He then talked much smack about it, and went on to say the WH was saving Sestak from himself. Or some such stupid nonsense.
And when called on it Cole turned the firebagger hoses on and started spraying left and right. Then went and hid.
Corner Stone
@Keith G: I ran out of that hours ago.
More’s the pity.
Elie
Sorry —
Sestak has to be a rube to get tangled up in this one. And so clearly by his own acts… Lordy, the “I am stupid but so important” world view strikes again. Fool. Hopefully he is smarter than he seems…
Corner Stone
@Alex K: Yeah, probably.
I’ve just been told a bunch that this is a story that won’t go away.
So I’m making sure it does not.
It’s obviously a make or break dealio in PA.
Corner Stone
@Elie: And this pretty much seals it for me.
Cole, kay and elie.
Need I say more?
Corner Stone
@handy: If you don’t trust John Cole’s political acumen then you are clearly a firebagger.
FIREBAGGER! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP!
Keith G
Where were all these righteous people when this quid pro quo *did* happen?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1002-23.htm
Davis X. Machina
@Corner Stone: I haven’t had a post ‘take’ in a week. There’s probably a blacklist.
Davis X. Machina
Hey, it just ‘took’…
tofubo
… republican … hypocrisy … on … any … given … subject …
tell me something i don’t know
OtothemotherfuckingT
….represents the consensus view of all 16 American spy agencies….
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/world/middleeast/03cnd-iran.html?_r=1
16 ??
Corner Stone
@Davis X. Machina: Why’s it gotta be “black”?
Why can’t you call it a Sestaklist?
robertdsc
Welcome back, Dennis. :)
Shade Tail
@Dennis G.:
Here’s the truth about the Sestak business, as has been happening here at BJ.
Mr. Cole believes, with plenty of justification, that Sestak did something a bit scummy by making a completely unsubstantiated accusation that he was offered a job by the WH to convince him to give up his primary challenge. Since Sestak started this, Mr. Cole wanted Sestak to put up or shut up.
Corner Stone made a lot of piss and wind that amounted to nothing, and now is tooting his own horn by conflating things Mr. Cole wrote with things DougJ wrote.
…and that’s about it.
Yutsano
Shorter Dennis: Issa is a bitter whining hypocrite who didn’t get his pony so he’s gonna keep anyone else from getting anything shiny while his party is out of power. At least that’s the thought process that enters my brain whenever I see Issa squaking.
Oh and you were definitely missed dengre. This will make SiubhanDunne and SIA very very happy to see you posting again.
M. Bouffant
Darrell Issa is not Debbie Schlussel’s favorite person.
Corner Stone
@Shade Tail: Shorter Shade Tail:
I’m a fucking liar.
Ailuridae
@Shade Tail:
Corner Stone made a lot of piss and wind that amounted to nothing, and now is tooting his own horn by conflating things Mr. Cole wrote with things DougJ wrote.
Once he gets around to threatening somebody it’ll be a full Corner Stone trifecta.
Ailuridae
@Yutsano:
Oh and you were definitely missed dengre. This will make SiubhanDunne and SIA very very happy to see you posting again.
+1
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Please show me where I have ever, ever, threatened anyone about anything.
You can’t.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: As usual, just another tough guy liar. Back it up tough guy. Show us.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: C’mon man, I don’t have all night.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Err, I don’t have to show you. That’s not how baseless attacks work. I figured you of all people would understand that.
Now get back to punching it out to other posters’ stories about Swedish women. God knows you serve no other purpose around here.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: Ok, so you got nothing then? You’re just a liar?
Got it, thanks.
Uloborus
Uh… Doug? John? I didn’t even want BoB banned, but do we *really* need an angry troll making half the posts on a single topic, none of which address the subject in any way and are basically just rapid-fire whinges about the front-page bloggers? It’s your blog, guys, but the trolling is just getting out of control these past few days.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
And yes, you do have all night. What else do you have to do you worthless PUMA troll?
Ailuridae
@Uloborus:
Apparently you never got around to reading the special section of the B-J universe rules that apply to Corner Stone and Just Some Fuckhead. Never any content, no analysis, no ability to read or think critically just incessant whining that the blog they spend all of their time on was written by a former GOPer who better articulates Democratic concerns and views better than them.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: Hey, you’re the one who has said on a couple threads that I’m some kind of internet tough guy, and on this thread specifically that I threaten people.
I asked you to please show us what you are referring to.
You can’t so now you’re trying to crawfish.
You’re just a liar.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: I guess we can’t all be flat out liars like yourself.
Or do you have anything to back up any of your assertions?
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Isn’t it about time that you threatened someone? You might be the most useless poster I have ever encountered in any forum going back to usenet.
Here’s a challenge: In your next two dozen posts write something or anything that isn’t just whining nonsense.
I’ll wait. And its rich for someone who blatantly and repeatedly lied during the HCR debate to accuse me of lying. Go beat up a transvestite.
Uloborus
@Ailuridae:
No, I’m cool with that part. It’s the way they’re clogging the forum topics that is the problem. They can bitch as furiously and as irrationally as they want as far as I’m concerned. I mean, BJ makes passions run high. It’s when I open a forum topic and half the posts are just whining Firebaggers I get a little concerned, and then I open this one and half the posts are *Corner Stone* himself just… bitching and bitching and bitching. That’s actually making himself an obstruction, however minor and petty of one.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Wow. Project much?
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Or do you have anything to back up any of your assertions?
Besides you repeated threatening people? No, I have nothing besides that to establish you repeatedly threaten people.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Still waiting for you to show us the first time I have ever done that.
It’s ok if you want to lie. Just expect to called on it.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Isn’t it about time you threatened someone, tough guy?
Or whined about how Texans are mistreated?
Or lied about any number of things in some relevant policy debate you didn’t remotely understand?
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Anytime you want to post where I’ve done that…please do.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
I don’t have to show that you threatened someone. There is an empirical fact that you did. You can refute it by showing that you didn’t. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae: One of these days I’m sure you’ll have something relevant to say. About something.
Too bad today is just not your day.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Any day now…please post it here for us.
Or keep lying. Whichever you prefer.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
I have no interest in posting where you have done that. Please prove you didn’t. Ok, thanks.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Ok, so you’re just a liar then. I think we can all accept that.
Thanks.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Ah, I’m not lying. My refusal to link to a thread where you threatened someone doesn’t mean you didn’t. You, sir, however, are a liar. And a troll. And a simpleton. And, not coincidentally, a Texan. And, a PUMA.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?
Now its time for you to get back to advocating eugenics.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
You can try this weaksauce all you like. Either put it up here or admit you’re a liar.
Lots of people may not like me or my posts but I still challenge you, or anyone, to show us all where I’ve played internet tough guy and threatened anyone. About anything.
Corner Stone
@Ailuridae:
Alright. So you’re just a serial liar.
Until you put something up to back it. Meh.
Yutsano
ONE! TWO! THREE! FOUR! I DECLARE A FLAME WAR!!
Corner Stone
@Yutsano: As I said. Meh.
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Isn’t it about time you got around to fighting your pit bulls? Preferably against small children?
Ailuridae
@Corner Stone:
Lots of people may not like me or my posts but I still challenge you, or anyone, to show us all where I’ve played internet tough guy and threatened anyone. About anything.
Again. You’re not very bright, are you?
Seitz
Issa is very easily described and mocked. He launched the recall campaign for one reason: he thought that a successful recall would lead to his installation as governor of California. Then Arnold decided to run and dashed Issa’s dreams, which led to actual, physical tears.
It’s very simple. Every time Issa is engaged by a Democrat, he should be greeted with: “Aww, what’s the matter Darrel, gonna cry?” over and over again. The man is a pathetic piece of shit who whines like a little bitch when he doesn’t get his way. He should be forced to cry like a child on camera as much as possible.
Gravenstone
/em hugs Cleek
Thank you for your Pie Filter. My waning sanity is temporarily bolstered.
Yutsano
@Gravenstone: Yes, but is that much pie good for you? I guess it depends on the type, since IMHO there can never be enough chocolate pie.
Perry Como
Check the archives. Intra and inter blog trolling is SOP. And I say this with a fondness for the practice.
asiangrrlMN
dengre, I just wanted to add my voice to the ‘welcome back’ crowd. I missed your posts, and I am glad there is a light at the end of your tunnel.
@gocart mozart: Nice diversionary tactics!
gocart mozart
Hey, so how ’bout those Red Sox?
Yutsano
@gocart mozart: IIRC they lost tonight. But the Mariners won. And note to wifey: Mariners vs the Twins next week. Other than me drooling over Joe Mauer, any thoughts?
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsano: Ha! Well, gex just told me that the Twins are running the protect marriage sanctity ad, so….go Mariners! And, Ichiro is the hawt.
Yutsano
@asiangrrlMN: Speaking of Ichiro…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU
If this does not make you laugh your ass off call your mortician because you’re dead.
Evolved Deep Southerner
Wow. I haven’t seen anything like this since Michael Gass.
asiangrrlMN
@Evolved Deep Southerner: The helicopters….are….not……..laughing!
@Yutsano: Better call 911, then!
Yutsano
@asiangrrlMN: He still looks cute in the video though, amirite?
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsano: Oh, hell, yeah.
debbie
Am I supposed to believe Karl Rove never directed where anyone should or should not run as he worked toward his permanent Republican majority???
I watched Issa for a few minutes on C-Span yesterday. He couldn’t even string a clear sentence together as he struggled to cite the federal provisions on which he was basing his allegations. No tears, though.
Thimbles
Things are a little bad now that Issa is free to seed his scandal memes amongst the press and thump his drum demanding an investigation, but imagine how things would have happened just a few years ago:
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/03/hbc-90002589
These were the kinds of rumors that got people thrown in jail a short while back. Sestak and the people who talked to him could have been involved in an all consuming investigation like the one that ruined and jailed Don Seigelman. Issa may be a joke, but don’t treat his activities as jokes. They’re really not funny if and when they get innocent people arrested.
Sheila
It is time for some thoughtful journalist (and there are a few) to begin researching all of the instances of this on the gops’ side and making them public.
Kobie
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m terrified of this Sestak thing. Not because I think anything untoward happened, mind you. But the Republicans will bloviate, the press corps will turtle, nobody outside of the blogosphere will have the temerity to mention that similar deals have been made (including by St. Ronald), and Obama’s numbers will tank.
Thimbles
Scott Horton did a little:
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/03/0081943
One of those was likely Sam Fox, the Swift Boat funder who got an ambassadorship appointment to Belgium.
Again read Horton’s summary of the Seigelman case and tell me the difference.
But hey, it’s important that we don’t look back and focus on the past, amirite?
Pococurante
Sweet sweet post Dennis. More please.