Comments on: Five Hundred Thirty Five Reasons for Our Current Predicament

By: Thoughts on the healthcare legislation « Later On

Thoughts on the healthcare legislation « Later On — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:05:04 +0000

[...] think mistermix is exactly right in this post (worth the click): Obama was careful to stay back out of the fray and not touch the legislation [...]

By: Cain

Cain — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:51:57 +0000

@paradox:

Vomit vomit vomit. Please grow the fuck up and learn to accept unpleasant truth. If you can, which I really doubt.

Don't make us send Rahm to your shower. You won't like it. cain

By: Cain

Cain — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:49:33 +0000

@kay:

I’m bitter about media in this. Really. Screw them. Health care reform was not interesting to them, so they blathered on like idiots about the politics.

Yes, the national media has done a crappy job. F-. What about the local papers? The Oregonian, has had some good pieces which actually did some analysis on healthcare costs and problems. The editorial board is behind the bill thinks it should pass. Amazingly sane bunch of folks. There used to be a conservative on there called Reinhard or something like that I haven't seen him in a long time. His stuff was all republican talking points, he bought nothing to the table. Worthless. Overall, the paper has gotten more progressive and it is probably because Portland is more progressive and being out of step with the population is a bad thing when it comes to circulation. cain

By: Cain

Cain — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:43:50 +0000

@beltane:

@mistermix: But Rahm was out to sabotage HCR from day one. He was chosen as COS for the express purpose of killing the public option and taking magical unicorns off the table. Single-payer would have been passed unanimously if it were not for the diabolical machinations of this man and his giant organ.

Worse, Rahm haunted the congressional showers with a permanent hard-on, with his hands on his hips screaming at congressional leaders before smacking them with his member before fading back into the shadows. My gawd, can no one stop this man?!

cain

By: Bruce (formerly Steve S.)

Bruce (formerly Steve S.) — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:44:43 +0000

@Dr. Morpheus:

Yeah, he changed, so we changed our opinion of him

No, it went like this: Kucinich is a bloviating asshole, then the President gives him the Air Force One treatment, then Kucinich changes his mind. One more time, your Arrow of Time lesson for the day: Kucinich is bloviating asshole. President applies pressure. Kucinich changes his mind. HTH.

By: Comrade Kevin

Comrade Kevin — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:07:01 +0000

“aloof” is the new “uppity”.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:29:31 +0000

@Tom Hilton: Hm. Sounds like "persistence" isn't very manly, then.

By: cleek

cleek — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:28:30 +0000

i still think he’s an asshole.

assholes can be useful though. without one, life would be short, and explody.

By: Dr. Morpheus

Dr. Morpheus — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:22:17 +0000

@Bruce (formerly Steve S.):

That’s a funny observation, because a mere week ago Dennis Kucinich was BJ’s official #1 bloviating asshole in Congress. Things move fast around here.

Yeah, he changed, so we changed our opinion of him, or were you not awake yesterday?

By: Uloborus

Uloborus — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:19:37 +0000

Sorry, Bruce said it, can’t edit on the ‘ol iSpud.

By: Uloborus

Uloborus — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:17:03 +0000

@Tom Hilton:
Yep! Unlike the GOP we’re not one trick ponies. We always knew the Senate (and too much of the House) were bloviating assholes. Kucinich was the bloviating asshole who was making himself super especially obnoxious at the time. Now he’s backed off, and there’s a grudging truce as we are drawn to current problems.

By: Da Bomb

Da Bomb — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:07:31 +0000

@Pam C./femlaw: Very much this. @Dave Paulson: Take a reality pill. You are living in a fantasy world.

By: Tom Hilton

Tom Hilton — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:35:34 +0000

@Pam C./femlaw: well said. And the common thread between the second and third things is persistence, which isn't a quality much valued in the cable-news cycle (not like 'toughness', valued by wingnuts and lefties alike, which plays well in soundbite form).

By: Davis X. Machina

Davis X. Machina — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:32:04 +0000

How he was able to sit for 6 hours at the HCR summit, for example, and listen with a degree of patience I could never muster while Republicans made their inane talking points over and over, only to have each one batted down….

Faculty senate meetings…. there is no better training. You can’t even go pee—they’ll put you on a committee.

By: Tom Hilton

Tom Hilton — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:30:54 +0000

@gwangung: well, but there's the second part of the either/or: "or driven Congress into total disgrace in front of its constituency". Which, of course, he also couldn't have done, but never mind that--if he had done it, it would have been...bizarre and self-destructive. So, to sum up: Obama is to be condemned for not having crazily crippled his own presidency (in a way that wouldn't have achieved its 'goal' in the first place) when it turned out he didn't have the superhuman mind control powers to bend Congress to his will.