SOTU Open Thread #2
If the site doesn’t go down again. FYWP.
Whoops, Obama just pledged to “work with Congress” to repeal DADT…
January 27, 2010 10:12 pm
Posted in: Open Thread, The Failed Obama Administration (Only Took Two Weeks)
271 Comments
271 Responses
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:16 pm · Link
all right, who broke the innertoobz?
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:19 pm · Link
Lieberman looks like his hemmies are flaring.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:20 pm · Link
I APPROVE OF THIS SPEECH!
cain
mclaren - January 27, 2010 | 10:21 pm · Link
Schwarzenneger’s genius new idea involves outsourcing American prisons to Mexico. Maybe we could outsource American government to Mexico.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:21 pm · Link
I approve of this speech.. goddam, I need a cigarette.
cain
ruemara - January 27, 2010 | 10:21 pm · Link
Dammit, Barack! All silky smooth and saying what’s right and hitting the right points.
I…I just can’t quit you.
Fucker.
/O-bot, bloody again.
Spork - January 27, 2010 | 10:21 pm · Link
Obambi. He broke the intertrons so the people couldn’t see him spell out his nefarious designs.
ajr22 - January 27, 2010 | 10:22 pm · Link
A few random thoughts. Fuck Alito for shaking his head, the court is A political asshole. Also, does Chuck Grassley have herpes?
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 10:22 pm · Link
Fuck, that was awesome.
Jules - January 27, 2010 | 10:23 pm · Link
Hey, that’s the guy I voted for….
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:23 pm · Link
@mclaren: I’d like to outsource the end of his term somewhere, anywhere.
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:24 pm · Link
Total Obot here. He was on fire! That’s my President!
Midnight Marauder - January 27, 2010 | 10:24 pm · Link
Wow. Just fucking wow. You crazy for this one, Obama!
And Corner Stone, your thoughts? Also.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:24 pm · Link
Wow, the visual of the Republicans just sitting there, stone-faced and recalcitrant, at the call for providing equal rights to all our citizens was amazing.
They really are the party of bigotry. No surprise in itself, but the willingness to so publicly embrace it, en masse, is kind of shocking.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:24 pm · Link
@ajr22:
A bitter old man watching his world change as he watches the sun set.
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:25 pm · Link
The lecture was pretty awesome, because it was true. It obviously won’t change the behavior of a single congresscritter, and although I don’t exactly have the pulse of the people I doubt it will resonate much politically. But it was still pretty awesome.
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:25 pm · Link
I’m in love with him for calling out the media as well. No.one.is.safe.
Spork - January 27, 2010 | 10:25 pm · Link
@mclaren: Can we outsource lobbyists? I would gladly pay illegal immigrant wages to illegally influence members of Congress. I can just see the trucks pulling up to Home Depot parking lots and loading on pickup truck loads of lobbyists as day labor.
me - January 27, 2010 | 10:26 pm · Link
The end of the speech was weird, a five minute span where there was no applause. Was the crowd asleep or spellbound?
camchuck - January 27, 2010 | 10:26 pm · Link
Out of the gate, Wolf Blitzer sounds sad to report that the speech had lots of detail and was long. Get ready for the post-speech buzzkill.
Max - January 27, 2010 | 10:26 pm · Link
I’m not liking Rachel tonight. She’s very bitchy.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:26 pm · Link
Here comes the republican response.
cain
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:26 pm · Link
I’m tempted to scroll through the firebag-o-sphere to see what they found to pout about, but I’m not gonna harsh my own buzz.
jenniebee - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
My pillager of a governor is giving the rebuttal… sweet.
stevie314159 - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
Who’s giving the rebuttal tonight, Hamsher or Sirota?
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
That was FDR-ian.
Best speech I’ve ever seen him give.
Midnight Marauder - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
And can I just say that I am FUCKING GIDDY for the Republican response. Bob McDonnell as the answer? You have got to be fucking kidding me! But by all means, good sir, go on…
Tomlinson - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
They were probably terrified he was about to drop the boom on them. And maybe a wee bit embarassed for the people who’d already had the boom dropping.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
mclaren:
Why not? The idea of drug importation is pretty popular, and, effectively, that’s just outsourcing the power to bargain with pharmaceutical companies to Canada instead of governing it ourselves.
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arguingwithsignposts - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
Okay, just some first impressions: I liked the DADT shoutout. Thought it was too long, and didn’t include enough gonad kicking. The best was at the end. I got the sense of a fatherly lecture a la Leave It to Beaver toward the end. And if I don’t ever hear the word “bipartisan” again, it will be too soon.
ETA: Bob McDonnell can blow me, also.
Sly - January 27, 2010 | 10:27 pm · Link
I feel cheated. There was no where near the level of Hippy Punching I was told to expect.
Will someone on the internet please tell me what to think?!
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
@me:
Spellbound, I think.
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
Oh god, Tweety, shut up already.
Joe Beese - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
That’s the money shot? “I will work with Congress” to end DADT?
WTF? We’re supposed to thank him for not working against Congress?
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
Spellbound. You could hear a pin drop.
Comrade Mary - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
Tweety: “I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. We completely forgot about it.”
Words fail me.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
Well the press is going to be angry cuz there was no sound bites out there.
cain
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:28 pm · Link
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh. My. Fucking. God.
Tweety: “For an hour I forgot he was black tonight, this African-American speaking in front of a bunch of white men.” Not an exact quote.
‘He sounded like a real American.’
Admiral_Komack - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
The President called out the media.
I love it.,
Ailuridae - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
@stevie314159:
You made me laugh out loud for the first time in two days. Thanks!
Max - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
Mr. Obama tonight – Boom goes the dynamite!
inkadu - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
Does Chris Matthews always talk like he is simultaneously masturbating? Honest question. I don’t watch network tv.
ulee - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
Chris Matthews just said, “I forgot he was black for an hour.”
Ash - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary: Oh Tweety. Where the fuck is Sylvester when you need him?
mcc - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
@Joe Beese: The take away on DADT is we will be doing it this year. This is what it will look like.
freelancer (itouch) - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
Why aren’t they putting Thune out there? I mean, if they’re tring to elevate the guy…
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
What I really loved was the silence. It kind of reminds me when I got in trouble and my dad would talk to me and there would be this silence and that was what it was like. It was kind of eerie, like we need to listen and understand how to get back on the right track.
cain
PanAmerican - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary:
Oh no he didn’t…..
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:29 pm · Link
Rachel and KO can barely contain their contempt.
WereBear - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
To me, that just shows how driven-like-rats-to-the-push-bar our media is. They leap around and try to grab talking points out of thin air, and cling to a metaphor until all the life is beaten out of it.
If they were common friggin’ citizens trying to hang in there… they might get it.
But they must not.
Midnight Marauder - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
@Max:
I just caught a brief moment of MSNBC after the speech (to get an idea of how the “left” channel would react) and immediately I hear Rachel talking about how his speech wasn’t “left-wing” enough? Disappointing, to say the least.
MysticalChick - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
RE: Tweety – I know – WTF? Foot meet mouth.
Ash Can - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
@me: Everybody was probably thinking, “Oh shit, am I gonna be next?”
ETA: I see Tomlinson @#28 beat me to it!
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
@inkadu: Yes.
The Grand Panjandrum - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
Will McConnell call for an end to earthquake funding?
AkaDad - January 27, 2010 | 10:30 pm · Link
My keyboard and monitor are now covered in…starbursts.
JRon - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary: what? did tweety actually say that?
beltane - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary: Did Tweety really say that? Holy shit that man has issues.
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
@mcc: It’s amazing how some people will spin anything into a negative.
PanAmerican - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
This VA clown is punching so far out of his weight class…...
Comrade Mary - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
Should I watch the response or stay on the CBC to follow our prorogation discussion?
freelancer (itouch) - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
Oh the phony charm, it is spackled on with a trowel.
arguingwithsignposts - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary: Oh. My. F**king. G*d. He did NOT just say that. If he has a job tomorrow, I will never watch MSNBC again.
MagicPanda - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
“Just saying no to everything might be good short term politics but it’s not leadership.” Whooot
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 10:31 pm · Link
“Rachel and KO can barely contain their contempt.”
Pretty much why I stopped watching all political TV months ago.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
@stevie314159:
Full of win.
Comrade Mary - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
Yes, Tweety really said that. When I make shit up, it’s funny.
RareSanity - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
Are you f’ing kidding me?
An audience for the response?
JRon - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
wow this rebuttal is almost as good as Jindal.
Midnight Marauder - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
@Joe Beese:
You never cease to amaze me with your worthlessness.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
@freelancer (itouch): I liked using the statehouse chamber, packing it with a friendly audience. Just like if Obama had not let the Republicans in.
freelancer (itouch) - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
Most non specific objection/rebuttal ever.
And I promise you, you will never catch me reading…a TelePrompTer.
inkadu - January 27, 2010 | 10:32 pm · Link
@MysticalChick: “I totally forgot what a total racist I am for almost twenty minutes!” – Tweety
Republican Response: Lower taxes. Smaller government.
What a surprise.
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:33 pm · Link
The Virginian Governor is acting like he’s the President with the setting in the legislative building and having an audience.
DougJ - January 27, 2010 | 10:33 pm · Link
I loved the smack down of SCOTUS. Loved it.
To their faces, just like Colbert.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:33 pm · Link
If I were a VA Democrat, I’d be pretty pissed about the governor using the well of the statehouse for a partisan political response to the POTUS.
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PanAmerican - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
McDonnell KNOWS. His cadence is way off and speeding through it to get off the stage.
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
I think the audience is a mistake.
JRon - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
are these virginia politicians or actors hired to clap?
Michael - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
Y’know, I haven’t watched Tweety or anybody on MSNBC for a couple of months now, and feel better for it. My only news shows are the occasional Haiti specials on CNN, Robin Meade (yummy) in the AM on HNN and my local newscast.
Cutting off cable punditry has dropped my blood pressure by 10 points.
Anne Laurie - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
Guv Bob McDonnell has a fine ReThug SmugMug™ goin’ on, yes?
Altho, hith lispth not politically inspirational.
Bad Horse's Filly - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary: You are fucking kidding me? Somebody give me something to hit.
Admiral_Komack - January 27, 2010 | 10:34 pm · Link
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh. My. Fucking. God.
Tweety: “For an hour I forgot he was black tonight, this African-American speaking in front of a bunch of white men.” Not an exact quote.
‘He sounded like a real American.’
-I watched the President’s SOTU address on CSPAN.
Thank God for CSPAN.
Davis X. Machina - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
If the president in Independence Day were GOP, that’d be the response to the alien attacks…
Joe Beese - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
@mcc : A “likely” from Barney Frank ranks about a 2.3 on the Reassure-O-Meter.
And it goes up to 100.
RareSanity - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
Will Micheal Steele be on the website?
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
Man, this guy sucks. What a let down. I could write a better response than this guy.
cain
ps why does he keep smiling like that? reminds me of edwards.
TooManyJens - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
Is he really pushing “Drill, baby, drill”?
SiubhanDuinne - January 27, 2010 | 10:35 pm · Link
@Everyone who lives in Virginia:
I’m really sorry.
Elie - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
@ruemara:
Hahahahaha, Yeah, I need a smoke too..
fucker.
DougJ - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
Why did the audience laugh when he said Facebook and Twitter.
carlos the dwarf - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
@inkadu:
and drill baby drill.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
@Michael: @Admiral_Komack:
Yeah, I’m asking for it. Just trying to get a read on tomorrow’s CW.
But Matthews really is in a league of his own.
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
I’m Bob McDonnell, and I’m going to pretend I’m an important national figure for the next 10 minutes. Please join in by pretending the last 90 minutes never happened and clapping for my too risqué for Family Circle jokes.
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
You knew it was coming after Jindal in the hall/front door debacle.
Count on goopers for prime stratergizing.
jenniebee - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
OK, Tweety is obsessed with race. and he just called McConnell a “chuckleface.” And he’s making a Godfather reference.
Oh nice, I’m so glad they’re showing some of the restoration work we did on the capitol building, it really is some lovely workmanship.
You realize that he’s “creating new jobs” by selling off the publicly owned liquor stores. Because apparently, there are innovations in liquor distribution that we’re stifling by not allowing drive-thru booze stores.
Oh shit, he’s still speaking on deficit reduction. Might as well bitch about volcano monitoring.
They welcome our ideas? How about get with the program or STFU?
Max - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
The GOP should really schedule their response next year for a day or two after the SOTU.
You just can’t follow Obama without looking like an idiot.
BDeevDad - January 27, 2010 | 10:36 pm · Link
Did they find every minority person on his staff to sit on the stage or what?
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
The Virginia Gov speech is of course deeply nonsensical in its content, but the decision to do it in front of a crowd was very, very savvy.
Midnight Marauder - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
What the fuck is with this audience for McDonnell? And wow, the Republican bench is thin. I mean, Calista Flockhart on Ally McBeal thin.
“We are blessed here in America with vast natural resources and we must use them all.”
What.a.joke.
And how much do you think they paid that Asian guy and that black lady to stand behind him? Like they’re decorative pieces or something. Oh Republicans, your worldview is so increasingly obsolete.
+8
Comrade Mary - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
MSNBC has lost sound on McDonnell. For once, the liberal media conspiracy gets it right.
Cat Lady - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
@DougJ:
Wouldn’t you love to know what Alito muttered? He hated Obama before from all accounts.
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
He keeps saying things that Obama has already said he’s for – nuclear energy, better education….
JRon - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
@Admiral_Komack: ‘he sounded like a real american?!”
I’m sticking with pbs.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
@TooManyJens:
No! Seriously? Drill baby drill? they are too sad.
And I see at least one uniform at this highly partisan bit of bad stagecraft.
Annie - January 27, 2010 | 10:37 pm · Link
Obama was awesome…So awesome that the CNN crowd is shitting themselves trying to find something negative and controversial to say…I loved all the shots of McCain. What a sorry old man.
Obama even shot down Lady Sarah by using the word phrase “common sense” several times. OMG, the guy is smart.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
Black woman, white woman, military guy, asian guy.
We’re a big tent, people! And with your support we’ll soon be able to take back the majority and further erode the rights of the people seated right behind me!
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
Tell me he didn’t just introduce his “First Lady” (I’ve got it muted)
Delia - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
I think the rethug is better than Kenneth the Page. He lies every time he opens his mouth and what he says has no relation to Obama’s speech, but what do you expect from a gooper?
Edit: I just noticed: he lisps.
freelancer (itouch) - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
Wow, this rebuttal…is so spontaneous and engaging…that I am seriously…moved by it.
Lol, torture. Keep fucking that chicken!
Ash Can - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
So Tweety really said that, eh? Oh my. Someone just bought himself a little unwanted publicity, didn’t he?
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yeah, this is embarrassingly weak.
Anne Laurie - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
Wag finger, smirk, call for nuclear energy expansion and ‘natural gas exploration’ off-shore the VA coast. Crowd actually yells WOOT! Well, at least he pronounced nuclear correctly.
Jimmm - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary:
Tweety: “Because usually I can’t stop thinking about how there’s a black guy talking from behind the Presidential podium. You know, because I’m a working class Irish American. And he’s black.”
jenniebee - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
@SiubhanDuinne: We’re sorry, too.
But hey, what do you expect from a state that elected first George Allen and then Jim Gilmore? And if you think this guy’s a tool, you don’t know Jim Gilmore.
McGeorge Bundy - January 27, 2010 | 10:38 pm · Link
@mr. whipple: Nah, not quite FDR-ian, not if you mean in terms of confrontational rhetoric. But not too far off, either. Certainly closer than I’d have expected from Obama.
inkadu - January 27, 2010 | 10:39 pm · Link
I forgot for a minute that the Governor of VA is white.
Did he just say we should torture people? What a fucking ASSHOLE. Somebody throw a pie!
JRon - January 27, 2010 | 10:39 pm · Link
wow a pro-torture statement. didn’t see that coming.
me - January 27, 2010 | 10:39 pm · Link
He looks very uncomfortable and the applause is very unnatural. It’s better than Jindal was though.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:39 pm · Link
In all seriousness, Obama just pissed off every single constituency he needs to work with to get anything done. I don’t know how this ends well.
Sly - January 27, 2010 | 10:39 pm · Link
@arguingwithsignposts:
If you already stopped watching CNN and Fox, you should secretly hope that he keeps his job. Cable News is bad for your brain. “Good” Cable News is like “Good” Amoebic Dysentery.
Admiral_Komack - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
“Rachel and KO can barely contain their contempt.”
-I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!”/snark
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
@Warren Terra:
Really? I think it looks kind of stupid. I think it makes him look weak because he needs a cheering section to get through it, rather than making him look strong.
DonBelacquaDelPurgatorio - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
Is it just me, or is this Repub response guy just making the same points Obama made an hour ago, only worse?
lamh31 - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
Ambinder reported that Obama expects to fill 2 vacancies in the SC this summer, which is why his admonishment of the SC was appropos
Poopyman - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
I’m backing Comrade Mary 100%, ‘cause Mrs. P and I had the same response. And I believe ” I forgot he was black” is an exact quote.
But he went on from there! You’ll have to find the video, ‘cause I was just “shutupshutupshutupshutUP!”, but he didn’t. And KO couldn’t do anything besides “Uh huh…..uh huh”?
It was awesome in its own way.
Bad Horse's Filly - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
@DougJ: ‘cause twitter sounds dirty and they’re 12.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
McDonnell saying the Christmas bomber stopped giving info when we didn’t torture him. Is that a new lie, or has that extension of the “we should torture him!” argument been going around for a while? It’s the first time I’ve heard it.
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Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
I wish he would stop fucking smiling at me. It is creeping me out. God I’m just drinking now..this response sucks. The ideas are the same fucking ideas for the past 10 years. Jeezus. There is NOTHING NEW about this speech. Shit.
cain
McGeorge Bundy - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
This is the most monotonous speech I have ever heard from a politician, in content and delivery.
inkadu - January 27, 2010 | 10:40 pm · Link
@freelancer (itouch): An empty suit in front of a uniform.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:41 pm · Link
It’s beyond comical that he has all his minorities covered in the background, and when they show the view of the people watching him, it’s 95% white men and 5% white women.
mcc - January 27, 2010 | 10:41 pm · Link
We were carefully counting the number of nonwhites in the actual audience before the Republican response started and we turned off the TV…
...we counted one.
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:41 pm · Link
Oh, god. It causes me actual physical pain that this whole “don’t give the evil terrorists rights” line, which goes against everything I was taught in elementary school Civics, apparently has political resonance.
RandomChick - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
I thought sociopaths were supposed to be charismatic. You’d think the Republicans could find SOMEBODY with some zing for these gigs.
geg6 - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
Wow, that McConnell dude sucks so bad the equipment decided it’d had enough and cut the fuck out.
lamh31 - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
As an African American, I’m spellbound by the fact that there only seems to be 2 African Americans in the room and what luck them seems to be sitting behind Mr McDonnell for maximjum effect!
Admiral_Komack - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke
“In all seriousness, Obama just pissed off every single constituency he needs to work with to get anything done. I don’t know how this ends well.”
-It’s worked great so far…oh, wait…
max - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
Whoops, Obama just pledged to “work with Congress” to repeal DADT…
More excellent!
88: @Everyone who lives in Virginia: I’m really sorry.
I voted agin him! Nothin’ doin’ tho.
max
[‘I hear Maryland is a different state.’]
RareSanity - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
Yahtzee!!
“The scripture says…”
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
@mcc:
JINX!
PanAmerican - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
It’s getting worse. Shrugging shoulders. He knows he’s tanking…
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
I keep waiting for CNN to cut away and Wolf proclaiming “We’re going to do this guy a favor and get back to talking about the President’s speech.”
SIA - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
As I just said on the last thread (before I once again looked around and everyone had gone to the other party) McDonnell reminds me of the frat boys at UGA.
Now he’s lisping out some scripture. Holy Mother of FSM. This is the alternative.
KDP - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
McDonnell on C-Span now: Ahh, how folksy, his sons gave him 10 minutes.
Don’t pile on more taxation, regulation, legislation that will keep us rich folk from socking it away from you all. They promised more jobs immediately.
Dems – deficit spending – no mention of the size of the deficit when Obama took office. It’s all the Dems of course.
Restore ‘proper limited role of government at every level.’ Gee then why did it grow so much under Reagan, Bush, Bush…
“We want cooperation, not partisanship. ” Cooperation takes mutual involvement.
We’re honored with vast natural resources, and we. must. use. them. all.
Education: Yes, education is necessary. Opportunity by intellect and work, not zip code, but NOTHING about how to help people enter and complete college without taking on tens of thousands of dollars in debt.
ooo, there we are, Obama’s a soshulist. Took over the car companies, banks…
Make opportunity open to everyone. How?
Founders, lives and fortunes to make this country, we should leave it better than we found it.
TooManyJens - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
I missed the torture reference; what did he say?
Spork - January 27, 2010 | 10:42 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke: Yeah, that’s what I liked about it.
suzanne - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
Good Lord. McDonnell is fucking BOOOORING.
***snore***
The Grand Panjandrum - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
I hope whoever wrote this speech can get a refund on some of that college tuition. Sheesh. Not even a good speech for an undergraduate speech class. Sounds like someone printed out the talking points from the RNC website and this clown read them.
Brian J - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
I don’t think McDonnell’s speech was horrible, just so mediocre that it’s not likely to make a difference. So unless flat is the new up, he didn’t do anything special.
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
@Violet:
In fairness, I’m listening to the radio, not watching TV. Maybe it plays worse on TV. I just think that past responses, from either side, have typically been too monotonous and dull, and a cheering crowd makes even this guy sound like he’s exciting someone.
dr. bloor - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
@Max:
I never tire of watching them try.
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
Has the Gov. of VA said anything about volcano research yet?
arguingwithsignposts - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
that was a response?
And if tweety has a job tomorrow, then there is no justice in the united states. period. what. an. idiot.
SIA - January 27, 2010 | 10:43 pm · Link
@ruemara: Now let’s just cuddle and savor. Mmmmm.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:44 pm · Link
Anyone else think that McDonnell’s delivery sounds like a particularly bland and milquetoast Sunday morning televangelist?
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Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 10:44 pm · Link
@Spork:
You like that he’s pissed off everyone he’s supposed to work with?
mcc - January 27, 2010 | 10:44 pm · Link
@The Grand Panjandrum: You have to grade on a curve. If McDonnell didn’t just permanently damage his political career he’s doing better than Jindal did
Violet - January 27, 2010 | 10:45 pm · Link
Well the VA Gov. didn’t suck like Jindal did last year. He was blandly forgettable. Which is probably a net plus for him, given that he had to follow that tour de force by Obama.
Uriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:45 pm · Link
Meh. It was just OK.
Hilliary would have done much better.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:46 pm · Link
KO concern trolling that BO didn’t mention HCR until 27 minutes in.
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 10:46 pm · Link
@lamh31: Did it help you remember for the duration of the speech that he was white?
PanAmerican - January 27, 2010 | 10:46 pm · Link
@JGabriel:
Chamber sounded empty.
jacy - January 27, 2010 | 10:46 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke:
Because playing nice was working so well?
Admiral_Komack - January 27, 2010 | 10:46 pm · Link
@Comrade Mary:
Tweety: “I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. We completely forgot about it.”
Tweety: “Because usually I can’t stop thinking about how there’s a black guy talking from behind the Presidential podium. You know, because I’m a working class Irish American. And he’s black.”
Guess Tweety didn’t learn anything from that “MSNBC OIbama & Race” snoozefest.SIA - January 27, 2010 | 10:47 pm · Link
@JGabriel: OH yeah.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:47 pm · Link
This is weird. Olberman just turned on a dime from “greatest speech evah” to “Harry Reid was seen yawning”. In about 11 seconds. I’m waiting for the livelink with Kos.
Davis X. Machina - January 27, 2010 | 10:47 pm · Link
There’s a hundred million people in this country whom that makes positively tingly.
Think about that and try to sleep…
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:49 pm · Link
@Davis X. Machina:
Don’t you mean it sends a thrill up their legs?
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:49 pm · Link
A Matthew Yglesias tweet:
camchuck - January 27, 2010 | 10:49 pm · Link
Meh, the rebuttal never means shit. What matters most is what narratives from O’s speech take hold over the next couple days.
Bad Horse's Filly - January 27, 2010 | 10:49 pm · Link
@jacy: THIS. I’ll take this Obama over the last few months any day.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:49 pm · Link
The problem with McDonnell’s speech was that it was totally aimed at Republicans not at everyone. He convinced no one.
cain
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 10:50 pm · Link
@Admiral_Komack:
Really. If playing gentle doesn’t work, play rough. If it wasn’t effective, we never would have invented yelling.
MikeJ - January 27, 2010 | 10:50 pm · Link
@SIA:
Peggy Noonan:
I don’t think she’s savoring as much now.
Corner Stone - January 27, 2010 | 10:50 pm · Link
@Midnight Marauder:
I got into it. Didn’t agree with everything but really, just gave in part way through and started drinking my balls off.
He nailed a bunch of it.
You win this round you dirty fucking O-bot.
*Or maybe we both win since I’m hip deep with my friends Jim, Jack, Crown and Smirnoff.
Cat Lady - January 27, 2010 | 10:50 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke:
Do you have kids? He treated them like the spoiled children they are. If you don’t, you get 0 respect. 0. We’ve been yelling here all week for him to come out swinging, and he took some good swings.
Wile E. Quixote - January 27, 2010 | 10:50 pm · Link
@camchuck:
It’s a well-known fact that the only reason why Wolf Blitzer has a beard and mustache is so he doesn’t end up gracing the front page of men who look like old lesbians.
freelancer - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
Apropos of ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,
“That’s the fucking raddest shit I ever seen!” (aka No! Don’t Drink Boners!)
ksmiami - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
aww eff it all – just crown Obama king and let him have his way with us
inkadu - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
@TooManyJens: Something like, “We have to stop giving terrorist the rights of american citizens. We took that terrorist off the plane, and gave him rights, and he stopped giving vital information.”
Implied: Torture or threat of torture makes terrorists talk.
Warren Terra - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
And as long as I’m posting things from Yglesias’s twitter feed, a link to this Think Progress post:
and
Corner Stone - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
@DougJ:
Oh man. if I could have a framed picture of their fucking faces when he dropped it right in their laps…I’d pay for that shit.
Those motherfuckers.
Ash - January 27, 2010 | 10:51 pm · Link
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Keith and Rachel both have sort of gone off the rails the last 6 months or so. Their BFF status isn’t working out well for either of them.
Ana Gama - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
I am Ana Gama and I approve that message!
More of That One, please!
JAHILL10 - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
Chris Matthews should be fired. Obama’s speech was great (he called out EVERYONE) and I can’t watch any of the puditizing distorting what I just heard with my own ears. Thanks for filtering for me!
Irony Abounds - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke: As if trying to please all the constituencies has worked up until now? I like the approach – tell everyone to get off their fucking ME ME ME and work out a solution that works for EVERYONE.
As for the SCOTUS, it is truly frightening. You see how young and vigorous all the Republican corporate fellators on the court are and how frail Breyer, Ginsberg and Stevens are and the future does not look good. Roberts and Alito will be on the Court for another 30 years.
JK - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
@arguingwithsignposts:
Admiral_Komack
Chris Matthews is the only person in the world who could see Obama’s personality bearing a strong resemblance to the characters portrayed by Ray Milland. Matthews is a fucking idiot.
Spork - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke: Yeah. Yeah I do. The system is fucking broke now. Decent legislation with broad support can’t pass a dysfunctional congress. Making a public case, and calling out the bad actors in the only constitutionally mandated speech has a chance of turning public opinion and breaking some current logjams. Yes, there are some potential bad consequences, but the status quo is right there with worst case if he pisses off congress. So yeah, throwing rocks at the beehive makes me happy. Stir that shit up, and make it public by directly calling them out.
Ash - January 27, 2010 | 10:53 pm · Link
I fucking hate CNN and their stupid ass “focus groups” from Ohio.
I also hate Ohio.
Corner Stone - January 27, 2010 | 10:54 pm · Link
@Uriel:
Agreed.
Lev - January 27, 2010 | 10:54 pm · Link
I hung in for McDonnell’s speech as long as I could, but his cadence wasn’t that of an engaging, charismatic politician. It was the cadence of a play-by-play baseball announcer. I opened a few more tabs and my mind practically heard him say, “Thirty three thousand people in attendance…we will use all of our natural resources!...three and two, with Maddux on the mound, the pitch…smaller government threatens our liberty…caught by Jones, that’s two away.” And the whole staging-this-like-the-SOTU thing was a little embarrassing.
But, admittedly, much better than Jindal.
Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:54 pm · Link
I think La Nooners spends a lot of time savoring sauvignon blanc
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:56 pm · Link
@Warren Terra: In Scalia-land, corporations aren’t “special interests”. Only pesky minorities, poor people and women are “special interests”.
freelancer - January 27, 2010 | 10:56 pm · Link
I’m sorry, I give up. I just, well, I gotta ask.
Why didn’t Hamsher give the rebuttal?
SIA - January 27, 2010 | 10:57 pm · Link
@MikeJ: Poor Peggy. I’ll savor for her.
oh really - January 27, 2010 | 10:57 pm · Link
The Republican response looked and sounded like a slick infomercial.
After the last year, Obama’s speech struck me as empty rhetoric. As Eugene Robinson wrote on the WaPo Op-Ed page, “Barack Obama will regain the political initiative with action, not words or populist style.”
Anyone who was “persuaded” by tonight’s speech probably would have been persuaded if Obama had read a shopping list off a teleprompter…oh, wait.
But it doesn’t matter what any of us thought of the speech; what will matter will be what Obama does. So far, he’s given me no reason to believe he will actually fight for anything worthwhile. If he finally realizes what leadership is, then this speech won’t have mattered. If he doesn’t, then, again, the speech won’t make any difference.
Comrade Kevin - January 27, 2010 | 10:57 pm · Link
@freelancer:
Too busy sending out a fundraising action alert email?
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 10:57 pm · Link
TooManyJens:
Don’t have the exact words, but McDonnell whinged about the Undiebomber refusing to provide any more info after getting legal counsel or some bullshit like that.
Since there’s obviously no way McDonnell could know that, and since all the reports I’ve read indicated that the Undiebomber talked/ranted pretty freely — obviating any need for more aggressive questioning — I’m wondering if it’s a lie McDonnell came up with himself, or, if not, where he got it from.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist - January 27, 2010 | 10:58 pm · Link
@oh really:
Ho! “Teleprompter”! ZING!
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 10:58 pm · Link
@oh really:
That’s what you always say PUMA,
SIA - January 27, 2010 | 10:58 pm · Link
@Corner Stone: That was definitely one of the high points of the SOTU IMHO.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 10:59 pm · Link
@oh really:
Edit: This only for the for the first paragraph. Otherwise, meh.
cain
cain
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 11:00 pm · Link
Maybe if he had brought his birth certificate?
AkaDad - January 27, 2010 | 11:00 pm · Link
@freelancer:
Her and Grover are still out on their date.
JGabriel - January 27, 2010 | 11:01 pm · Link
Lev:
Not really. A baseball announcer usually sounds more excited. McDonnell sounded more like someone serenely reminding his flock to put donations in the plate being passed around so the baby Jesus won’t be sad and disappointed.
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Delia - January 27, 2010 | 11:01 pm · Link
Hmm . . . . Howard Fineman thinks Obama’s speech was brilliant.
As to the rethug: as I reconsider I think I prefer Jindal. At least his Kenneth the Page impression was memorable. Now ten minutes after this clown’s speech I can’t remember a single thing he said. It was just boiler plate gooper-talk. I can barely remember what he looks like.
Ana Gama - January 27, 2010 | 11:02 pm · Link
I loved how he reminded the Repubs how budgeting is done.
I loved him telling the Repubs they should be clapping at his tax cuts.
I really loved the SCOTUS smackdown.
I am happy that Michelle is going to champion childhood obesity.
I’m not listening to any pundits. Not a single one.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 11:02 pm · Link
My only regret was our John was not around to comment on this.
cain
DaBomb - January 27, 2010 | 11:03 pm · Link
@Max: Not feeling her at all either.
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:03 pm · Link
Told you he would recalibrate.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 11:03 pm · Link
@Spork: Well I hope it works, I really do.
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 11:03 pm · Link
@Delia:
The only thing I remember was the smile, like the cheshire cat.
cain
mr. whipple - January 27, 2010 | 11:03 pm · Link
Heh.
DaBomb - January 27, 2010 | 11:04 pm · Link
@General Winfield Stuck: You know how we felt about Obama. Now look at all the naysayers, change back sides.
It’s a beautiful thing.
Comrade Luke - January 27, 2010 | 11:05 pm · Link
@DaBomb:
Well to be fair, it’s just a speech. I don’t want to piss everyone off with “Just words”, but we need action here.
My hope is that this at least shook things up a little. Because things needed to be shaken up.
DaBomb - January 27, 2010 | 11:06 pm · Link
@oh really: STFU!
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 11:07 pm · Link
@General Winfield Stuck: Well, I’m outraged. Obama threw us under the bus. He embraced right-wing framing. He’s turning into a Hooverite. Nothing but triangulating. After this speech I think Rahm needs to be fired.
Ash - January 27, 2010 | 11:08 pm · Link
Why the hell is President McCain going to be on Larry king live? Do we really need to see two corpses discussing this?
Uriel - January 27, 2010 | 11:09 pm · Link
@Poopyman:
You people obviously don’t get it- That’s what Tweety does! That’s his bag, his shtick, that inexplicable something that makes him such a hot commodity!
Look, Julia Childs can cook. So what does she do when someone sticks her in front of a camera? She grabs some eggs and she grabs some milk and she makes a goddamn cake, that’s what! She doesn’t build a house or price antiques because PBS has already got guys who do that! She plays to her strengths!
Same with Tweety- sure there’s lot of guys who blabblahblah about “oh, look, Cantor’s got on a red tie! wonder what that means!” and other stupid crap. But the thing that sets Tweety apart is the uncanny ability to root around in his brain-full of un-doubtedly useful experiences with lightning speed, before near-instantaneously deciding that the thing to do is toss all that possibly interesting stuff in the crapper, grab the most, embarrassing, irrelelvent and un-selfaware thing that’s rolling around in there tonight and- this is the part that makes him political gold- say it out loud! Not just once, but dozens of times! He’ll even it out shout over his guests answers again and again, proudly, just to drive home the fact that even if he had the vaguest notion what he was talking about, he’d run with this idiocy he’s babbling about now.
The man is like gold plated platinum covered in Dove chocolate. He’s that good.
Corner Stone - January 27, 2010 | 11:10 pm · Link
@Comrade Luke:
No one ever denied the President could give a good speech. But now – whoever you want to put it on – Obama, Pelosi, Reid, the voters – legislation HAS to happen.
There HAS to be a win somewhere here. Whatever the outcome is, something has to be passed and signed.
It’s not about what Obama can or can’t do anymore. No more boundaries. He called the tune tonight. In fact, he called a bunch of motherfuckers out.
I loved it. I love his speeches. But that’s what this is til we see a legislative or policy outcome.
He doesn’t write the laws. We all get that. But it’s now or never for his admin.
ETA - and I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about the SOTU and he nailed a lot of shit that made me giddy. But that lasts about as long as a good comedy routine. Outcomes. Outcomes.
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:11 pm · Link
@DaBomb: Nothing has changed for me. First year in the job, shit happens, political realities changes, BO thinks on his feet and comes at things from a different direction. Why do people doubt this guys pol savvy? Getting the stim bill passed and all the R and D money flowing for a better future with new technologies to create new markets down the line. that was enough for moi for first year success, maybe even two years worth. People don’t think, they just react to the moments passions. Oh well.:)
carlos the dwarf - January 27, 2010 | 11:11 pm · Link
@Uriel:
Tonight, you have won the internet. Well f*cking played.
Ana Gama - January 27, 2010 | 11:12 pm · Link
@Martin:
No comprende nuance?
Ailuridae - January 27, 2010 | 11:19 pm · Link
@Uriel:
Some front pager is going to take on Tweety’s stupidity. They would be better just quoting this comment.
Notorious P.A.T. - January 27, 2010 | 11:20 pm · Link
Sounds like a good speech. Now let’s see if he actually DOES ANYTHING. You know, like calling the Senate and telling Lieberman “I saved your ass, how about paying me back?” or firing Geithner or something.
Martin - January 27, 2010 | 11:21 pm · Link
@Ana Gama: I marinade in nuance.
Jason Bylinowski - January 27, 2010 | 11:21 pm · Link
I like the reaction I’m hearing to this speech, wish I’d had the chance to see it live. Sullivan seems to like it, although he seemed a bit incoherent in the live-blog (maybe he’s drunk?). I also hear that he did not say to pass the HCR bill, specifically, though. What did you guys take from the HCR portion of the speech?
DaBomb - January 27, 2010 | 11:22 pm · Link
@General Winfield Stuck: Exactly. I don’t get the excessive doubting either. Especially on leaks of information or from anonymous sources.
I like how he mentioned, that he is governing 300 million people and that it was never going to be easy, and he will essentially need our help as well. I think he just trying to bring people back down to earth.
celticdragonchick - January 27, 2010 | 11:23 pm · Link
@Davis X. Machina:
If
Not quite. The GOP response there would be to torture any of them we could capture, and keep torturing them even after we find out they don’t understand the questions and the whole thing is a waste of time. Then, dump the body under one of the mother ships and claim we have no idea what happened. To wrap it up, instead of figuring out how to effectively attack their ships, we go and bomb Iran.
Also, we invade Iraq again on general principle.
DaBomb - January 27, 2010 | 11:24 pm · Link
@Jason Bylinowski: He basically lectured Ccongress about running for hills when things get tough. And he wants them to pass HCR. He reinforced the fact, that Congress and Senate have came to far along to not pass it.
Phoebe - January 27, 2010 | 11:24 pm · Link
Ha. I was right.
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:25 pm · Link
@Notorious P.A.T.: I wish that would work on Lieberman. The smarmy little shit can’t be reached, I fear. Doesn’t matter now so much since the mirage of a fili proof majority is gone. The silver lining is now obama can take it to the wingnuts who are now responsible for their obstruction having 41 votes and the dems 59. sounds like O started that tonight.
Notorious P.A.T. - January 27, 2010 | 11:25 pm · Link
Well, he negotiated against himself with that stimulus. Then he negotiated against himself with health care reform. Now, with his unsolicited spending freeze he has negotiated against himself on government finance. I don’t know about anyone else, but my anger at Obama is not a spur-of-the-moment thing.
Notorious P.A.T. - January 27, 2010 | 11:28 pm · Link
Maybe Lieberman couldn’t be reached. We’ll never know now! As for shame not working on him, no way it will work on the Republicans. “oooh, we feel so bad about not letting anything get done. . . by the government we would dismantle if we could”.
Obama’s hands-off “leadership” squandered a 60-vote supermajority. That is unforgivable.
Hey spellcheck, “supermajority” is a word!
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:29 pm · Link
@Notorious P.A.T.:
I know, and I think your type of dissent is responsible. I don’t agree, but you don’t usually go overboard either, :)
Lev - January 27, 2010 | 11:32 pm · Link
@Notorious P.A.T.: I’m imagining a universe in which Martha Coakley eked out a victory and Obama decided to play the same inside game on financial reform that he did on health care. Know what? I’m not sure that’s a better universe at this point.
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:32 pm · Link
Never had a democratic 60 vote majority. And Lieberman voted and campaigned for the other guy. Nope, nothing Obama could have done to get joes 60th vote, nothing at all. at least that was legal.
SixStringFanatic - January 27, 2010 | 11:35 pm · Link
@Notorious P.A.T.:
“He negotiated against himself with that stimulus.”
So that was Obama’s hand up Olympia Snowe’s ass every time she said the overall bill should be smaller?
mcc - January 27, 2010 | 11:35 pm · Link
I’m beginning to think we need a corollary to the “everything is good news for republicans” rule
BDeevDad - January 27, 2010 | 11:42 pm · Link
CNN focus group seriously are saying the President and Dems are not being bipartisan enough. Actually, had an African American Republican say Obama should veto any bill that had no Republicans voting for it.
WTF
Cain - January 27, 2010 | 11:50 pm · Link
@BDeevDad:
A wingnut. Probably not popular with a lot of liberals. I don’t know what the fuck is great about bipartisan when one party just obstructs everything. Thank God, Obama called them out on that.
cain
General Winfield Stuck - January 27, 2010 | 11:51 pm · Link
@BDeevDad: There are a lot of voters out there who think this, especially independent ones, something of a fetish with them among other similar nutty notions. I know cause I was one for twenty years and had my share of such odd ideas about politics. I viewed it like my family I think, so as no one would feel left out or something silly like that. Really dumb way to approach politics and lawmaking, but there you have it. It’s what low info creates, I suspect.
BDeevDad - January 27, 2010 | 11:56 pm · Link
Did David Gergen just say he was biased for the repeal of DADT?
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:07 am · Link
@General Winfield Stuck:
You were right.
It was an amazing speech and more than the words or delivery, I am linked in again to the underlying person with the values and the leadership. That was who I voted for and who I supported (though admittedly, I wavered here recently)
God help us and let us all find the courage to do or support “what needs to be done”...
Wile E. Quixote - January 28, 2010 | 12:10 am · Link
@celticdragonchick:
There would also be a picture of Donald Rumsfeld meeting with the alien leader, and it would turn out that the Reagan administration knew about the alien invasion but chose not to do anything about it.
Will - January 28, 2010 | 12:11 am · Link
Tweety is now trying to walk back his “forgot he was black” comment on Rachel’s show.
Cain - January 28, 2010 | 12:12 am · Link
@Elie:
I think the reason is that he didn’t hedge on anything. He called out everyone who was causing trouble and scolded them. That’s essentially what we wanted at our emotional core. We wanted to lash out at senators and house members and he did it for us.
That’s what I wanted. To have my rage and frustration channeled by someone they would listen to. I’m not disappointed.
cain
MJ - January 28, 2010 | 12:12 am · Link
@ruemara:
Damn You Barack Obama, You Pretty Motha f**ker
Will - January 28, 2010 | 12:14 am · Link
@BDeevDad:
The only response to a statement like that is to remind them that a bill that gets any Republican votes, gets all of them, or none of them. That’s how lockstep they are now. So they’re saying that Obama should only sign bills with 100% backing of the entire Congress. Governing by criminal jury trial.
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:15 am · Link
@DaBomb:
Giggle giggle, yeah—you are right. I AM embarrassed.
I am weak but I mean well and I want so much for our country. Its been a long hard road…
Will - January 28, 2010 | 12:16 am · Link
@General Winfield Stuck:
I was always in favor of the dead horse or dead hooker approach when it came to Joe, myself.
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:21 am · Link
@MJ:
Where you find this? BRILLIANT! Says it all for me
Thanks
JGabriel - January 28, 2010 | 12:23 am · Link
Re: SCOTUS
How common is it for SC Justices to skip the SOTU? Looking at the audience shots, it appears that Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy are no-shows.
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Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:26 am · Link
@JGabriel:
Who cares? Really.
rootless_e - January 28, 2010 | 12:27 am · Link
@Corner Stone: Yeah, but I think you have to be a Republican to take that response slot.
Wile E. Quixote - January 28, 2010 | 12:34 am · Link
@JGabriel:
They’ve got a regular gig, along with Ross Douthat, working as a Village People tribute band at a club called “The Gothic Asshole” every other Wednesday.
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:35 am · Link
@Wile E. Quixote:
LOL!
I can see that actually…
celticdragonchick - January 28, 2010 | 12:36 am · Link
@Wile E. Quixote:
Yep. That sounds about right.
DaBomb - January 28, 2010 | 12:39 am · Link
@Elie: I know you mean well. It’s okay to waver, but just don’t succomb to name calling and screaming at someone who genuinely seems to be on our side.
Wait for all of the information to come out fully.
He reminded us again of what we should be doing, to help him.
That’s all.
Will - January 28, 2010 | 12:42 am · Link
@Wile E. Quixote:
Don’t a few justices always miss it on purpose, in case of a catastrophic attack on the Capitol, etc.? Same with a few cabinet members, if I’m not mistaken.
SIA - January 28, 2010 | 12:49 am · Link
@MJ: Love that, thanks.
Wile E. Quixote - January 28, 2010 | 12:50 am · Link
@Will:
Yeah, that’s what Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy would like you to think.
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 12:52 am · Link
@DaBomb:
“don’t succomb to name calling and screaming at someone who genuinely seems to be on our side.”
Did I miss something? I know that you must have had an example in mind, so lets hear it if you can present it. I try hard not to be a name caller unless I am provoked or name called, but I am imperfect, so may have. Would help to know so that I can apologize to that person
Wile E. Quixote - January 28, 2010 | 12:53 am · Link
@Will:
I’m not sure if that would work. Joe strikes me as the kind of guy who would be really into either one of those.
Will - January 28, 2010 | 12:56 am · Link
@Wile E. Quixote:
Ok, here’s Wiki on the matter. While I was right that a cabinet member intentionally misses the speech, it says nothing about USSCJ’s missing. Dicks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....on_address
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 1:00 am · Link
@DaBomb:
Ohhh—I think that you meant me calling Obama names?
I dont think that I called him names, but I may have labeled his behavior quite negatively—
Okay (if that was the examples you meant)
Hmmm. Dunno.
I was pretty damned angry and that anger was justified at the time given what I knew. I could have been more patient, but then, HE and his team also made a few mistakes – what seemed BIG mistakes. I get pissed off at people I care about and I do yell a bit. Am I going to stay calm and cool in the future? Hopefully but can’t promise. I was pretty upset and I will not deny the validity of that emotion so—while I hear your point…
MJ - January 28, 2010 | 1:03 am · Link
@Elie:
and
@SIA:
Don’t you just love that poem! I’ve had that in my youtube favorites folder forever. I think I originally heard about it on a post at jackandjillpolitics.com. It’s crazy how prescient this artist was about the fight in the liberal soul between Barack Obama, hope & cynicism.
Elie - January 28, 2010 | 1:05 am · Link
@MJ:
I agree. Wow! It will be good to keep this and remember if times get hard again—and I am sure that they will
MJ - January 28, 2010 | 1:14 am · Link
@Elie:
Word! But right now, it feels good to remember why we elected that “Pretty Mothaf**ker” in November of 2008.
Da Bomb - January 28, 2010 | 10:14 am · Link
@Elie: No I wasn’t very clear. I know you didn’t call him names, I am just saying some of the angrier supporters did. It wasn’t cool.