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		<title>By: Nancy Irving</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Irving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere that these people also want to deep-six the woman-taken-in-adultery story from the New Testament--they claim it&#039;s inauthentic, or something.

Apparently they don&#039;t like Jesus&#039; resolution (&quot;He who is without sin among ye, let him cast the first stone/Go and sin no more,&quot; etc.)

They think the woman SHOULD have been stoned to death for her sin, and that the portrayal of Jesus as forgiving is a librul forgery.

ROTF...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere that these people also want to deep-six the woman-taken-in-adultery story from the New Testament&#8212;they claim it&#8217;s inauthentic, or something.</p>
<p>Apparently they don&#8217;t like Jesus&#8217; resolution (&#8220;He who is without sin among ye, let him cast the first stone/Go and sin no more,&#8221; etc.)</p>
<p>They think the woman <span class="caps">SHOULD</span> have been stoned to death for her sin, and that the portrayal of Jesus as forgiving is a librul forgery.</p>
<p><span class="caps">ROTF</span>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scarshapedstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarshapedstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(At least that&#039;s what I read into their freakout.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(At least that&#8217;s what I read into their freakout.)</p>
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		<title>By: scarshapedstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarshapedstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Does shrewd really have more connotations of dishonesty than resourceful?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It does if you&#039;re talking about a Jew.</description>
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<blockquote>Does shrewd really have more connotations of dishonesty than resourceful?</p></blockquote>
<p>It does if you&#8217;re talking about a Jew.</p>
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		<title>By: Platonicspoof</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/12/03/and-jesus-said-unto-himwolverines/#comment-1468222</link>
		<dc:creator>Platonicspoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thy third and final warning of the Apocalypse shal
 
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		<title>By: licensed to kill time</title>
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		<dc:creator>licensed to kill time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;what if a person was born italic and then closed tags?&lt;/em&gt;

damn,didn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>what if a person was born italic and then closed tags?</em></p>
<p>damn,didn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpy realist</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/12/03/and-jesus-said-unto-himwolverines/#comment-1467969</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpy realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if we&#039;re going to get picky here, what about that sentence &quot;the Elohim created heavens and earth.&quot;  

Elohim--&gt; masculine plural on a noun with a feminine ending (Eloha). Much better translated as &quot;the Gods&quot; rather than &quot;God&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if we&#8217;re going to get picky here, what about that sentence &#8220;the Elohim created heavens and earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elohim&#8212;> masculine plural on a noun with a feminine ending (Eloha). Much better translated as &#8220;the Gods&#8221; rather than &#8220;God&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidTC</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/12/03/and-jesus-said-unto-himwolverines/#comment-1467878</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidTC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/I&gt;WRT to &#039;word&#039;, I always wanted to translate that verse as:

In the beginning was the Precept, and the Precept was with God, and the Precept was God.

I think that&#039;s close enough to &#039;word&#039; to be familiar, yet be understandable.  I like precept, but &#039;thought&#039; could work, as could &#039;concept&#039;. 

The current translation of that verse, strangely enough, is their only legitimate issue, but &#039;truth&#039; is just wrong there. They&#039;re going the entirely wrong direction trying to fix that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">WRT</span> to &#8216;word&#8217;, I always wanted to translate that verse as:</p>
<p>In the beginning was the Precept, and the Precept was with God, and the Precept was God.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s close enough to &#8216;word&#8217; to be familiar, yet be understandable.  I like precept, but &#8216;thought&#8217; could work, as could &#8216;concept&#8217;.</p>
<p>The current translation of that verse, strangely enough, is their only legitimate issue, but &#8216;truth&#8217; is just wrong there. They&#8217;re going the entirely wrong direction trying to fix that.</p>
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		<title>By: licensed to kill time</title>
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		<dc:creator>licensed to kill time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those goddang italians - always messing up the threads with their italics. Took my reply arrow, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those goddang italians &#8211; always messing up the threads with their italics. Took my reply arrow, too.</p>
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		<title>By: NickM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The objection to &quot;laborers&quot; was bizarre.   The conservative alternative must be Walmart-style &quot;associates.&quot;    Peter wasn&#039;t a fisherman, or a fisher of men, he was a Dead Sea Fish Products, Inc. associate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The objection to &#8220;laborers&#8221; was bizarre.   The conservative alternative must be Walmart-style &#8220;associates.&#8221;    Peter wasn&#8217;t a fisherman, or a fisher of men, he was a Dead Sea Fish Products, Inc. associate.</p>
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		<title>By: RSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit late getting back to this, but I just remembered having written a Biblical pastiche on an economic topic last year on my blog.  (I can&#039;t see how this can be done seriously, even by conservatives.) Here goes:

For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his ability; and he straightway took his journey. Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made five more talents. And likewise he that had received two, he also gained another two. But he that had received one talent became thoughtful, went to his bed pallet, lay down, closed his eyes, and reasoned with himself.

&quot;Why is my master giving me money? He barely trusts me to go to the corner market to pick up a skin of wine when he runs out--&#039;Be sure that thou countest the change that is given unto thee, that thou art not ripped off,&#039; he says, every single time. &#039;Thou art no Jeeves.&#039;  And I never know what he&#039;s talking about.

&quot;The other guys, I know what they&#039;ll do. Abdon will sink his five talents into his father&#039;s messaging service, and they&#039;ll be able to feed their asses better so that they can move bigger packages. He&#039;ll pull in some good coin. And Ebed won&#039;t blow it all at the gaming tables this time; he&#039;s been talking about a new invention he can make (whatever an &#039;invention&#039; is) that he thinks people will want to buy. They&#039;re set. Next year, they&#039;ll be saying, &#039;See thou how my riches have grown!&#039; Yeah, your riches. But anyway, I don&#039;t have those kinds of connections, and I&#039;m not that smart. I need some kind of magic sack where I put money in, wait a while, and later pull out more money than I put in it.
 
&quot;Uh, that sounds pretty stupid.

&quot;No, wait, maybe it could work. My problem is that if I want to give money to a business to help them build up, and then share some of what they make, that sounds great, but I don&#039;t know which business to give it to. But maybe there&#039;s someone who does--I could give him my money, and split the profit with him. That sounds good... And maybe this guy would be smart enough that he could spread my cash around a bit, to a few different businesses, so I don&#039;t have all my eggs in one basket where they all might get broken. (Hey, that&#039;s a nice expression--I&#039;ll have to write that down some time.)

&quot;I wonder what would happen if a lot of people started doing this. Maybe we&#039;d see people standing in the shadows and making bets on which of those people would make money. Weird. People will bet on anything, the number of bushels of grain to be collected in the next harvest, the height of the floodwaters next spring--useless stuff. But I&#039;m getting a little crazy here with the speculation...

&quot;Okay, so does this work as a magic money sack? Let&#039;s see. I put up some money. Someone else does something with it. I wait. Eventually I get more money back than I put up. It sounds like magic to me. But it&#039;s crazy to think that it will work for everyone, all the time. There&#039;s no such thing as magic, and there is such a thing as risk, even if the money gets spread around. And I&#039;m a little uncomfortable with the idea of putting up some money without the slightest notion of where it&#039;s going and expecting some return. I mean, that&#039;s great if it works, but can it really be so simple--if you have money and are willing to trust other people with it, you can make more money? I don&#039;t know... Better an absolutely sure thing than the chance that I have to give my master back less than he gave me. He&#039;s a hard man and would kick my ass.&quot;

And so he went and digged in the earth, and he hid his master&#039;s money in a hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit late getting back to this, but I just remembered having written a Biblical pastiche on an economic topic last year on my blog.  (I can&#8217;t see how this can be done seriously, even by conservatives.) Here goes:</p>
<p>For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his ability; and he straightway took his journey. Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made five more talents. And likewise he that had received two, he also gained another two. But he that had received one talent became thoughtful, went to his bed pallet, lay down, closed his eyes, and reasoned with himself.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why is my master giving me money? He barely trusts me to go to the corner market to pick up a skin of wine when he runs out&#8212;&#8217;Be sure that thou countest the change that is given unto thee, that thou art not ripped off,&#8217; he says, every single time. &#8216;Thou art no Jeeves.&#8217;  And I never know what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>&#8220;The other guys, I know what they&#8217;ll do. Abdon will sink his five talents into his father&#8217;s messaging service, and they&#8217;ll be able to feed their asses better so that they can move bigger packages. He&#8217;ll pull in some good coin. And Ebed won&#8217;t blow it all at the gaming tables this time; he&#8217;s been talking about a new invention he can make (whatever an &#8216;invention&#8217; is) that he thinks people will want to buy. They&#8217;re set. Next year, they&#8217;ll be saying, &#8216;See thou how my riches have grown!&#8217; Yeah, your riches. But anyway, I don&#8217;t have those kinds of connections, and I&#8217;m not that smart. I need some kind of magic sack where I put money in, wait a while, and later pull out more money than I put in it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Uh, that sounds pretty stupid.</p>
<p>&#8220;No, wait, maybe it could work. My problem is that if I want to give money to a business to help them build up, and then share some of what they make, that sounds great, but I don&#8217;t know which business to give it to. But maybe there&#8217;s someone who does&#8212;I could give him my money, and split the profit with him. That sounds good&#8230; And maybe this guy would be smart enough that he could spread my cash around a bit, to a few different businesses, so I don&#8217;t have all my eggs in one basket where they all might get broken. (Hey, that&#8217;s a nice expression&#8212;I&#8217;ll have to write that down some time.)</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder what would happen if a lot of people started doing this. Maybe we&#8217;d see people standing in the shadows and making bets on which of those people would make money. Weird. People will bet on anything, the number of bushels of grain to be collected in the next harvest, the height of the floodwaters next spring&#8212;useless stuff. But I&#8217;m getting a little crazy here with the speculation&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Okay, so does this work as a magic money sack? Let&#8217;s see. I put up some money. Someone else does something with it. I wait. Eventually I get more money back than I put up. It sounds like magic to me. But it&#8217;s crazy to think that it will work for everyone, all the time. There&#8217;s no such thing as magic, and there is such a thing as risk, even if the money gets spread around. And I&#8217;m a little uncomfortable with the idea of putting up some money without the slightest notion of where it&#8217;s going and expecting some return. I mean, that&#8217;s great if it works, but can it really be so simple&#8212;if you have money and are willing to trust other people with it, you can make more money? I don&#8217;t know&#8230; Better an absolutely sure thing than the chance that I have to give my master back less than he gave me. He&#8217;s a hard man and would kick my ass.&#8221;</p>
<p>And so he went and digged in the earth, and he hid his master&#8217;s money in a hole.</p>
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		<title>By: canuckistani</title>
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		<dc:creator>canuckistani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else wonder if Andrew Shlafly hates his mother so much that he is willing to spend his entire life on an elaborate troll-spoof of her beliefs?
I&#039;d believe it. I know I hate her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else wonder if Andrew Shlafly hates his mother so much that he is willing to spend his entire life on an elaborate troll-spoof of her beliefs?<br />
I&#8217;d believe it. I know I hate her.</p>
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		<title>By: drkrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>drkrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And who knew, that using terms like “Jehovah” or “Yahweh” or “Lord God” was liberal?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just in case it hasn&#039;t already been pointed out, these terms are used to translate DIFFERENT WORDS in the Greek or Hebrew.  It&#039;s hard to understand how anyone who takes the Bible seriously could get behind this project, or why someone who doesn&#039;t would bother.</description>
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<blockquote>And who knew, that using terms like &#8220;Jehovah&#8221; or &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; or &#8220;Lord God&#8221; was liberal?</p></blockquote>
<p>Just in case it hasn&#8217;t already been pointed out, these terms are used to translate <span class="caps">DIFFERENT WORDS</span> in the Greek or Hebrew.  It&#8217;s hard to understand how anyone who takes the Bible seriously could get behind this project, or why someone who doesn&#8217;t would bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Tropical Fats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tropical Fats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blessed are the rich, for they own the earth.
Blessed are the war makers, for they totally kick ass!
Blessed are those who persecute in my name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blessed are the rich, for they own the earth.<br />
Blessed are the war makers, for they totally kick ass!<br />
Blessed are those who persecute in my name.</p>
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		<title>By: Platonicspoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Platonicspoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second sign shall be hordes of misspelled scribblings.</description>
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		<title>By: Platonicspoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Platonicspoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know ye, all ye sheep mocking heretics and infidels, the first sign of the Apocalypse shall be a scourge of Italics upon the scriblings of thee all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know ye, all ye sheep mocking heretics and infidels, the first sign of the Apocalypse shall be a scourge of Italics upon the scriblings of thee all.</p>
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