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		<title>By: cleek</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flouncing = decorative bunches of cloth on fancy curtains</description>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1372109</link>
		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my latest story on the not-computing aspects.  I&#039;m currently visiting my sister in Logan, Utah which is a beautiful college town in the northern part of the state.  It&#039;s about 80% rock solid conservatives.  The local paper yesterday had a big feature about a four year girl who has leukemia and her parents can&#039;t afford the treatments she needs so the community is sponsoring bake sales and fundraisers and all sorts of thing to help her.  (Now to be fair, the town I live in, Eugene, OR, which is about 30% wingnut, 30% DFH, and the rest moderates, also has had several of these fundraisers for sick children over the past several years.)  

But I turned to my sister when I read this article and I said it was criminal that a little child would be allowed to die if her community couldn&#039;t hold enough bake sales to pay for her chemotherapy and this was precisely why we needed a national health plan with a public option.  And my sister who agrees with me said that the same people who would run themselves ragged supporting bake sales for the little girl are the ones writing letters to the editor in the local paper ranting about how Obama is trying to replace God by taking over the health care system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my latest story on the not-computing aspects.  I&#8217;m currently visiting my sister in Logan, Utah which is a beautiful college town in the northern part of the state.  It&#8217;s about 80% rock solid conservatives.  The local paper yesterday had a big feature about a four year girl who has leukemia and her parents can&#8217;t afford the treatments she needs so the community is sponsoring bake sales and fundraisers and all sorts of thing to help her.  (Now to be fair, the town I live in, Eugene, OR, which is about 30% wingnut, 30% <span class="caps">DFH</span>, and the rest moderates, also has had several of these fundraisers for sick children over the past several years.)</p>
<p>But I turned to my sister when I read this article and I said it was criminal that a little child would be allowed to die if her community couldn&#8217;t hold enough bake sales to pay for her chemotherapy and this was precisely why we needed a national health plan with a public option.  And my sister who agrees with me said that the same people who would run themselves ragged supporting bake sales for the little girl are the ones writing letters to the editor in the local paper ranting about how Obama is trying to replace God by taking over the health care system.</p>
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		<title>By: OniHanzo</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1372089</link>
		<dc:creator>OniHanzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can someone explain to me what the sam hell &#039;flouncing&#039; is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can someone explain to me what the sam hell &#8216;flouncing&#8217; is?</p>
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		<title>By: OniHanzo</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1372086</link>
		<dc:creator>OniHanzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1371571&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MattM&lt;/a&gt;: 

You know something&#039;s up when Ace of Spades commenters start using the tried and true &quot;fag&quot; in reference to Charles Johnson.  

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://minx.cc/?post=291777&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://minx.cc/?post=291777&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1371571" rel="nofollow">MattM</a>:</p>
<p>You know something&#8217;s up when Ace of Spades commenters start using the tried and true &#8220;fag&#8221; in reference to Charles Johnson.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://minx.cc/?post=291777" rel="nofollow">http://minx.cc/?post=291777</a></p>
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		<title>By: RedKitten</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1371758</link>
		<dc:creator>RedKitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1371537&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;:  Oh, you don&#039;t have to tell me about how misunderstood our health care system is. I&#039;ve been on many a blog, explaining very, very patiently how our system works, and telling people that yes, Canadians ARE allowed to have private medical insurance, and frankly, I might as well be talking to the stuff in my kid&#039;s diaper, for all the good it does me. 

People hang on to their illusions for dear life, because FSM forbid that they admit that the American healthcare system isn&#039;t the Bestest Ever, and that there might actually be something good (besides Unibroue and the late Phil Hartman)  that originated out of sockalist Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1371537" rel="nofollow">Alan</a>:  Oh, you don&#8217;t have to tell me about how misunderstood our health care system is. I&#8217;ve been on many a blog, explaining very, very patiently how our system works, and telling people that yes, Canadians <span class="caps">ARE</span> allowed to have private medical insurance, and frankly, I might as well be talking to the stuff in my kid&#8217;s diaper, for all the good it does me.</p>
<p>People hang on to their illusions for dear life, because <span class="caps">FSM</span> forbid that they admit that the American healthcare system isn&#8217;t the Bestest Ever, and that there might actually be something good (besides Unibroue and the late Phil Hartman)  that originated out of sockalist Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu's Petals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuzu's Petals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to imagine this man telling his story at a townhall meeting and being shouted down:

&quot;This is a republic, not a democracy!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to imagine this man telling his story at a townhall meeting and being shouted down:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a republic, not a democracy!&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Sly</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1371686</link>
		<dc:creator>Sly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: LGF

Political craziness ebbs and flows. I used to read Larry Johnson&#039;s NoQuarter somewhat regularly. Then it suffered a complete descent into madness during the Democratic Primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <span class="caps">LGF</span></p>
<p>Political craziness ebbs and flows. I used to read Larry Johnson&#8217;s NoQuarter somewhat regularly. Then it suffered a complete descent into madness during the Democratic Primary.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Some Fuckhead</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1371639</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Some Fuckhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats and Republicans negotiating:

Democrats: I&#039;ve got this here and I think it&#039;s worth a hundred-

Republicans: I&#039;ll give ya $10 for it.

Democrats: Deal!

Republicans.  Nah. No deal, it&#039;s not worth more than $5.

Democrats: Okay then, $5!

Republicans: I&#039;ll give ya $2 for it.

Democrats: I thought we had a deal but, fine, $2!

Republicans: Nah, that&#039;s twice as much as I wanna pay.  I&#039;ll give ya $1.

Democrats: But you said.. Okay, great $1 and thank you!

Republicans: Forget it, I don&#039;t want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats and Republicans negotiating:</p>
<p>Democrats: I&#8217;ve got this here and I think it&#8217;s worth a hundred-</p>
<p>Republicans: I&#8217;ll give ya $10 for it.</p>
<p>Democrats: Deal!</p>
<p>Republicans.  Nah. No deal, it&#8217;s not worth more than $5.</p>
<p>Democrats: Okay then, $5!</p>
<p>Republicans: I&#8217;ll give ya $2 for it.</p>
<p>Democrats: I thought we had a deal but, fine, $2!</p>
<p>Republicans: Nah, that&#8217;s twice as much as I wanna pay.  I&#8217;ll give ya $1.</p>
<p>Democrats: But you said.. Okay, great $1 and thank you!</p>
<p>Republicans: Forget it, I don&#8217;t want it.</p>
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		<title>By: MattM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally OT, but Sully just linked to Charles Johnson&#039;s new LGF site (or maybe it&#039;s not new, I haven&#039;t read him in years).  And, holy crap, that guy appears to have had a total &quot;Road to Damascus&quot; moment re: the craziness in his party.

Reading it reminded me of nothing more than reading our host during and after the Schaivo affair.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally OT, but Sully just linked to Charles Johnson&#8217;s new <span class="caps">LGF</span> site (or maybe it&#8217;s not new, I haven&#8217;t read him in years).  And, holy crap, that guy appears to have had a total &#8220;Road to Damascus&#8221; moment re: the craziness in his party.</p>
<p>Reading it reminded me of nothing more than reading our host during and after the Schaivo affair.</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When watching  Baucus stand up on his hind legs and speak, as if he were a sentient being with an IQ the made pupuseful action feasible, and watching him go on to baucus himself in a humiliating fashion in front of the whole nation, and also any scattered grown-ups who might have been watching, I fell to thinking what would motivate a Distinguished Senator to humiliate himself that way.

I guess he raked in enough insurance dough over the summer to make it worth while and tie up any worries about the next election he needs to buy. I was trying to decipher the dude&#039;s expressions and that is what I saw. But I am cynical, probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When watching  Baucus stand up on his hind legs and speak, as if he were a sentient being with an IQ the made pupuseful action feasible, and watching him go on to baucus himself in a humiliating fashion in front of the whole nation, and also any scattered grown-ups who might have been watching, I fell to thinking what would motivate a Distinguished Senator to humiliate himself that way.</p>
<p>I guess he raked in enough insurance dough over the summer to make it worth while and tie up any worries about the next election he needs to buy. I was trying to decipher the dude&#8217;s expressions and that is what I saw. But I am cynical, probably.</p>
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		<title>By: jl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Hard to watch and sad to think about. Infuriating too.

But, Balloon-Juicers, being the most sensible people equipped with penetrating insight and incisive intelligence, must remember that if they plan on getting old, most of them will need medical care at some point in order to keep that project going for a reasonable period of time.

So, best not to get cynical and give up. The choices are:
1) fight on for reform no matter what and never give up,
2) take your chances at being a healthy 70 year old amidst the smoking ruins of an lunatic health care system (You! Put down that beer and stow them chips! Now!)
3) move to another country for your retirement with a good healthcare system.

I&#039;ve been reading on the Baucus plan. What a load of garbage, IMHO. It has so many loopholes that it will soon evolve into a kind of tax system for insurance companies, with reimbursement and policy problems almost as bad as we have now.

Baucus is an ass. I watched this crook and fool eating **** on TV earlier. What a joke he has made of himself. His dumbass bill needs to die a quick death. Will even one federal legislator in the whole country support his mess?

Need to primary this guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Hard to watch and sad to think about. Infuriating too.</p>
<p>But, Balloon-Juicers, being the most sensible people equipped with penetrating insight and incisive intelligence, must remember that if they plan on getting old, most of them will need medical care at some point in order to keep that project going for a reasonable period of time.</p>
<p>So, best not to get cynical and give up. The choices are:<br />
1) fight on for reform no matter what and never give up,<br />
2) take your chances at being a healthy 70 year old amidst the smoking ruins of an lunatic health care system (You! Put down that beer and stow them chips! Now!)<br />
3) move to another country for your retirement with a good healthcare system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading on the Baucus plan. What a load of garbage, <span class="caps">IMHO</span>. It has so many loopholes that it will soon evolve into a kind of tax system for insurance companies, with reimbursement and policy problems almost as bad as we have now.</p>
<p>Baucus is an ass. I watched this crook and fool eating **** on TV earlier. What a joke he has made of himself. His dumbass bill needs to die a quick death. Will even one federal legislator in the whole country support his mess?</p>
<p>Need to primary this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: harlana pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlana pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, I feel stupid that I just realized Baucus was negotiating in bad faith all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, I feel stupid that I just realized Baucus was negotiating in bad faith all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/09/16/faces-of-health-care/#comment-1371537</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFX32Ed7ZQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this video about Canadian health care&lt;/a&gt; was ever discussed here at BJ, but I get a kick out of the fact they don&#039;t even know what a co-payment. Our country is so fuct up. Could it be because of the &lt;em&gt;Wall Street-corporate-congressional complex&lt;/em&gt;? Yeah I think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFX32Ed7ZQ" rel="nofollow">this video about Canadian health care</a> was ever discussed here at BJ, but I get a kick out of the fact they don&#8217;t even know what a co-payment. Our country is so fuct up. Could it be because of the <em>Wall Street-corporate-congressional complex</em>? Yeah I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: jibeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>jibeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1371423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Makewi&lt;/a&gt;: 

How&#039;d that merciless mocking of 9/11 volunteers go?  Just thought I&#039;d let you know I led a small group of third graders in a challenge math exercise and no one mocked or tried to stop me.  I was a little disappointed, honestly, I mean, in the end was it really all just internet fauxtrage?  At the end of the day no one was actually willing to be the human speed bump in front of the elementary school?  You have to live your convictions, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1371423" rel="nofollow">Makewi</a>:</p>
<p>How&#8217;d that merciless mocking of 9/11 volunteers go?  Just thought I&#8217;d let you know I led a small group of third graders in a challenge math exercise and no one mocked or tried to stop me.  I was a little disappointed, honestly, I mean, in the end was it really all just internet fauxtrage?  At the end of the day no one was actually willing to be the human speed bump in front of the elementary school?  You have to live your convictions, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: LD50</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This tactic, while touching, has the problem of the fact that people tend to believe that health care under the new proposed system will be worse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you sure that as a Republican you want to start using poll numbers to support your arguments?</description>
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<blockquote>This tactic, while touching, has the problem of the fact that people tend to believe that health care under the new proposed system will be worse.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you sure that as a Republican you want to start using poll numbers to support your arguments?</p>
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