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		<title>By: Bruce (formerly Steve S.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce (formerly Steve S.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 PM Pacific time and CNN/MSNBC are following his corpse being driven around (FOX to a lesser extent).  Regardless of your political affiliation, if you think that watching a corpse being driven around in a car is the slightest bit fruitful or interesting then there is no hope for you.  Pardon me while I switch to the Paint-Drying Channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 <span class="caps">PM </span>Pacific time and <span class="caps">CNN</span>/MSNBC are following his corpse being driven around (FOX to a lesser extent).  Regardless of your political affiliation, if you think that watching a corpse being driven around in a car is the slightest bit fruitful or interesting then there is no hope for you.  Pardon me while I switch to the Paint-Drying Channel.</p>
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		<title>By: JenJen</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenJen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russert coverage was just ridiculous.  He was a TV host, and that&#039;s all he was.  His death was unexpected, which is what made it especially newsworthy, but after a day of that, it really should&#039;ve been enough.

I have a dear friend who is convinced that we&#039;re living in a simulation.  Some of his arguments have been compelling, especially as the country got really, really weird between 2001 and 2005.  But he was always kidding; it was just a way to explain away the strange.

Until &lt;b&gt;The Russert Rainbow&lt;/b&gt;, which is when I went full-in.  We &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; living in a simulation.  :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/2591737594/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russert coverage was just ridiculous.  He was a TV host, and that&#8217;s all he was.  His death was unexpected, which is what made it especially newsworthy, but after a day of that, it really should&#8217;ve been enough.</p>
<p>I have a dear friend who is convinced that we&#8217;re living in a simulation.  Some of his arguments have been compelling, especially as the country got really, really weird between 2001 and 2005.  But he was always kidding; it was just a way to explain away the strange.</p>
<p>Until <b>The Russert Rainbow</b>, which is when I went full-in.  We <i>are</i> living in a simulation.  :-)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/2591737594/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/c.....591737594/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wa-F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wa-F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The media coverage once somebody important or famous dies can really go overboard. Just look at how some media outlets are &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; devoting entire segments to news of Michael Jackson. I think that there is a fine line between honoring the life and accomplishments of an important person and simply covering what is popular in order to achieve more ratings. Sadly, I think that the funeral coverage and later news will lean towards the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The media coverage once somebody important or famous dies can really go overboard. Just look at how some media outlets are <em>still</em> devoting entire segments to news of Michael Jackson. I think that there is a fine line between honoring the life and accomplishments of an important person and simply covering what is popular in order to achieve more ratings. Sadly, I think that the funeral coverage and later news will lean towards the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: D-Chance.</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/08/27/not-seeing-it-2/#comment-1346069</link>
		<dc:creator>D-Chance.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds about right.  From the very little I saw, Shep Smith opened with TMK (making sure to mention you know where), then on to other news; while CNN was airing a &quot;Teddy In His Own Words&quot; hagiography, loaded with black-and-whites from the mystical, magical, mythological era of so-called &quot;Camelot&quot;... an era in which TMK was strangely enough the most minor of characters.

I&#039;m not sure that MSNBC and CNN are reporting TMK&#039;s death so much as they&#039;re waxing nostalgic for the era of his brothers&#039; triumphs and promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds about right.  From the very little I saw, Shep Smith opened with <span class="caps">TMK </span>(making sure to mention you know where), then on to other news; while <span class="caps">CNN</span> was airing a &#8220;Teddy In His Own Words&#8221; hagiography, loaded with black-and-whites from the mystical, magical, mythological era of so-called &#8220;Camelot&#8221;... an era in which <span class="caps">TMK</span> was strangely enough the most minor of characters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that <span class="caps">MSNBC</span> and <span class="caps">CNN</span> are reporting <span class="caps">TMK</span>&#8217;s death so much as they&#8217;re waxing nostalgic for the era of his brothers&#8217; triumphs and promises.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatLeftTurnInABQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatLeftTurnInABQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things which struck me from watching the Kennedy bios on TV last night was that this is the end of an era in another sense - that JFK and RFK and Ted came out of an era when the northeast and Massachusetts in particular was one of the dominant cultural hearths in our nation in a way that it just isn&#039;t any more. The big deal made about Ted and the nostalgia of sailing really brought that home. We used to be more of an oceanic nation, coming out of the era of 19th century mercantile trade which built so many of the great fortunes from that era. So many of our movers and shakers used to have salt water running in their veins, but more recently oil has replaced that. We went from being a sailing nation to a petroleum nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things which struck me from watching the Kennedy bios on TV last night was that this is the end of an era in another sense &#8211; that <span class="caps">JFK</span> and <span class="caps">RFK</span> and Ted came out of an era when the northeast and Massachusetts in particular was one of the dominant cultural hearths in our nation in a way that it just isn&#8217;t any more. The big deal made about Ted and the nostalgia of sailing really brought that home. We used to be more of an oceanic nation, coming out of the era of 19th century mercantile trade which built so many of the great fortunes from that era. So many of our movers and shakers used to have salt water running in their veins, but more recently oil has replaced that. We went from being a sailing nation to a petroleum nation.</p>
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		<title>By: SGEW</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGEW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1345928&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skepticat&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps there’s less hysteria and hype (yes, I know, everything is relative) because Senator Kennedy’s death is hardly a surprise and he perforce has been less visible than usual for more than a year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed. For me, the really tragic news was when I heard about the brain tumor. The terminal news of his passing came almost as a final, poignant note in a sad song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1345928" rel="nofollow">Skepticat</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps there&#8217;s less hysteria and hype (yes, I know, everything is relative) because Senator Kennedy&#8217;s death is hardly a surprise and he perforce has been less visible than usual for more than a year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed. For me, the really tragic news was when I heard about the brain tumor. The terminal news of his passing came almost as a final, poignant note in a sad song.</p>
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		<title>By: General Winfield Stuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>General Winfield Stuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1345895&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SGEW&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yes, the Adam&#039;s did have a huge impact, specially since they were during the early formative years of the Republic. The Kennedy&#039;s are in that league and like you say, that says a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1345895" rel="nofollow"><span class="caps">SGEW</span></a>:</p>
<p>Yes, the Adam&#8217;s did have a huge impact, specially since they were during the early formative years of the Republic. The Kennedy&#8217;s are in that league and like you say, that says a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Skepticat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps there&#039;s less hysteria and hype (yes, I know, everything is relative) because Senator Kennedy&#039;s death is hardly a surprise and he perforce has been less visible than usual for more than a year. 

As my neighbor said yesterday, now that we&#039;ve lost it, we in Massachusetts are going to find out soon just how much power and impact the senator really had for and on the commonwealth. I hope the same isn&#039;t true for the nation and health care reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there&#8217;s less hysteria and hype (yes, I know, everything is relative) because Senator Kennedy&#8217;s death is hardly a surprise and he perforce has been less visible than usual for more than a year.</p>
<p>As my neighbor said yesterday, now that we&#8217;ve lost it, we in Massachusetts are going to find out soon just how much power and impact the senator really had for and on the commonwealth. I hope the same isn&#8217;t true for the nation and health care reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1345903&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;joes527&lt;/a&gt;: 

You&#039;re not going to get an argument from me about the value of dynasty.  I&#039;ve never been very much impressed with any of the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1345903" rel="nofollow">joes527</a>:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to get an argument from me about the value of dynasty.  I&#8217;ve never been very much impressed with any of the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: PeakVT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeakVT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT: Today&#039;s WaPo chat participant will be an &lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.voices.washingtonpost.com/click.phdo?i=85dbab0d1442df8455d1f61e7e0a3393&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;improvement.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: Today&#8217;s WaPo chat participant will be an <a href="http://feeds.voices.washingtonpost.com/click.phdo?i=85dbab0d1442df8455d1f61e7e0a3393" rel="nofollow">improvement.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dismayed Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dismayed Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; You could include the Adam’s and even the Clinton’s and Bush’s, but they are far down the poll from the impact the Kennedy’s have had, whether good, bad, or indifferent. It is unmatched in our history, AFAIK/ &lt;/b&gt;

I think the Roosevelt&#039;s could give the Kennedy&#039;s a run for the most influential family, but point taken.  The Kennedy&#039;s have had an almost unimaginable level of influence on a country the size of the US, given that they&#039;re just one family (even if it is an Irish Catholic one that pumped out kids like Starbucks does coffee).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> You could include the Adam&#8217;s and even the Clinton&#8217;s and Bush&#8217;s, but they are far down the poll from the impact the Kennedy&#8217;s have had, whether good, bad, or indifferent. It is unmatched in our history, <span class="caps">AFAIK</span>/ </b></p>
<p>I think the Roosevelt&#8217;s could give the Kennedy&#8217;s a run for the most influential family, but point taken.  The Kennedy&#8217;s have had an almost unimaginable level of influence on a country the size of the US, given that they&#8217;re just one family (even if it is an Irish Catholic one that pumped out kids like Starbucks does coffee).</p>
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		<title>By: joes527</title>
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		<dc:creator>joes527</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1345856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cat Lady&lt;/a&gt;: It must be an east coast thing to value dynasties like that.  Sure, the individual Kennedys can be admired for their achievements ... but does it really matter who sprung from whose loins and/or intermarried?

Here on the West Coast, we have our own offshoot of the Kennedy clan married in to the Governator.  She might be a swell gal in her own right, but the governor still sucks.

More locally, the dynasty that we have is the Duncan Hunter clan.  Now THERE&#039;s an argument for term limiting whole families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1345856" rel="nofollow">Cat Lady</a>: It must be an east coast thing to value dynasties like that.  Sure, the individual Kennedys can be admired for their achievements &#8230; but does it really matter who sprung from whose loins and/or intermarried?</p>
<p>Here on the West Coast, we have our own offshoot of the Kennedy clan married in to the Governator.  She might be a swell gal in her own right, but the governor still sucks.</p>
<p>More locally, the dynasty that we have is the Duncan Hunter clan.  Now <span class="caps">THERE</span>&#8217;s an argument for term limiting whole families.</p>
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		<title>By: SGEW</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGEW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ahem: &quot;Of course, having &lt;i&gt;to compare&lt;/i&gt; the Kennedys . . . &quot;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[ahem: &#8220;Of course, having <i>to compare</i> the Kennedys . . . &#8220;]</p>
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		<title>By: RedKitten</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and it’s not too much to ask of the country to understand the role that family has played in its history.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it&#039;s not just me, then. It does seem that the death of Anna Nicole Freaking Smith got about 10 times the coverage of Teddy Kennedy&#039;s death. Mind you, not that I&#039;m wishing a media circus upon Teddy&#039;s family, but it just seems really...odd.</description>
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<blockquote>and it&#8217;s not too much to ask of the country to understand the role that family has played in its history.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it&#8217;s not just me, then. It does seem that the death of Anna Nicole Freaking Smith got about 10 times the coverage of Teddy Kennedy&#8217;s death. Mind you, not that I&#8217;m wishing a media circus upon Teddy&#8217;s family, but it just seems really&#8230;odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1345871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;General Winfield Stuck&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yes, this.  Today I haz a sad!  Back in the 60&#039;s my MIT trained physicist uncle travelled the world.  He&#039;d come back with stamps and coins and stories of strange places, but he would always marvel that whatever little shop in whatever little godforsaken hamlet he was in, there would be a picture of JFK pinned to the wall by the cash box, carefully wrapped in plastic for posterity.  That&#039;s some legacy.  Now trashed, which is where my undying contempt for Bush and Cheney originates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1345871" rel="nofollow">General Winfield Stuck</a>:</p>
<p>Yes, this.  Today I haz a sad!  Back in the 60&#8217;s my <span class="caps">MIT</span> trained physicist uncle travelled the world.  He&#8217;d come back with stamps and coins and stories of strange places, but he would always marvel that whatever little shop in whatever little godforsaken hamlet he was in, there would be a picture of <span class="caps">JFK</span> pinned to the wall by the cash box, carefully wrapped in plastic for posterity.  That&#8217;s some legacy.  Now trashed, which is where my undying contempt for Bush and Cheney originates.</p>
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