<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: First They Came For&#8230;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:47:52 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cpl. Cam</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205532</link>
		<dc:creator>Cpl. Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205532</guid>
		<description>Just so everyone is clear Texas produces a larger proportion of US military personell than any other state besides probably CA (based purely on personal experience).  If texas were to secede it would be a messy and terrible affair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so everyone is clear Texas produces a larger proportion of US military personell than any other state besides probably <span class="caps">CA </span>(based purely on personal experience).  If texas were to secede it would be a messy and terrible affair.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Da Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205425</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205425</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1205057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Common Sense&lt;/a&gt;: I am in complete agreement with you about the decription of the state. I live in the Galleria area, very diverse, not a majority of one ehtnic group at all and very liberal. 

The last 3 to 4  mayors in Houston have been Democrats. But overall Tejas is a very diverse place. 

Perry is a freakin&#039; choad with no sense of realism or civility. He just plain sucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1205057" rel="nofollow">Common Sense</a>: I am in complete agreement with you about the decription of the state. I live in the Galleria area, very diverse, not a majority of one ehtnic group at all and very liberal.</p>
<p>The last 3 to 4  mayors in Houston have been Democrats. But overall Tejas is a very diverse place.</p>
<p>Perry is a freakin&#8217; choad with no sense of realism or civility. He just plain sucks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cris</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205423</link>
		<dc:creator>Cris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205423</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1204791&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;omen&lt;/a&gt;: i didn’t hear these guys screech when bush’s FEMA confiscated guns from law abiding citizens, post katrina.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They&#039;re screeching about it now. Except in their narrative, Bush&#039;s FEMA has retroactively transformed into blue-helmeted UN troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
<blockquote>@<a href="#comment-1204791" rel="nofollow">omen</a>: i didn&#8217;t hear these guys screech when bush&#8217;s <span class="caps">FEMA</span> confiscated guns from law abiding citizens, post katrina.</p></blockquote>
<p>
They&#8217;re screeching about it now. Except in their narrative, Bush&#8217;s <span class="caps">FEMA</span> has retroactively transformed into blue-helmeted UN troops.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Da Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205410</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205410</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1204843&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kormgar&lt;/a&gt;: Hey now.. Houston is actually pretty blue and relaxed. We got Bill &quot;Da Man&quot; White as mayor. So I would have to say Houston and Austin. The rest of the state can go to hell in a handbasket for all I care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1204843" rel="nofollow">kormgar</a>: Hey now.. Houston is actually pretty blue and relaxed. We got Bill &quot;Da Man&quot; White as mayor. So I would have to say Houston and Austin. The rest of the state can go to hell in a handbasket for all I care.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cackalacka</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205400</link>
		<dc:creator>Cackalacka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205400</guid>
		<description>I do not know much about Texas, but I am certain about one thing: I live in one of the forty-nine states that is better than it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know much about Texas, but I am certain about one thing: I live in one of the forty-nine states that is better than it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fax Paladin</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205325</link>
		<dc:creator>Fax Paladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205325</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1205057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Common Sense&lt;/a&gt;: 
Perry is the shining example of the Pointy-Haired Governor: crap at doing his job, but very, &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; good at keeping it. The charlie-foxtrot of an election last time, with Kinky and Strayhorn both running as independents, helped enormously by thoroughly splitting up the &quot;Perry sucks&quot; vote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1205057" rel="nofollow">Common Sense</a>:<br />
Perry is the shining example of the Pointy-Haired Governor: crap at doing his job, but very, <em>very</em> good at keeping it. The charlie-foxtrot of an election last time, with Kinky and Strayhorn both running as independents, helped enormously by thoroughly splitting up the &quot;Perry sucks&quot; vote&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Corner Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205319</link>
		<dc:creator>Corner Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205319</guid>
		<description>@cleek
I&#039;m really not sure of your whole &quot;fungible&quot; argument.
&lt;blockquote&gt;it doesn’t matter where the shit is refined&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But it certainly *does* matter where it&#039;s refined. Those refineries are certainly *not* fungible. Sure, a refinery is a refinery is a refinery - have you seen the list of capacity? Do you think your Canadian friends can ramp up to counteract the loss of 2,000,000 bbl/d? And that&#039;s just from the Top 5 refineries in TX. I could be wrong but I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s built one in the US in the last 30 yrs +/-. Or maybe you could have another country refine it for you and transport it? Our friends in South America or the ME would lurv to help us out.
So, the oil and it&#039;s other products definitely are fungible. But the capacity to refine currently is not. I really don&#039;t know what you&#039;re arguing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cleek<br />
I&#8217;m really not sure of your whole &quot;fungible&quot; argument.</p>
<blockquote><p>it doesn&#8217;t matter where the shit is refined</p></blockquote>
<p>
But it certainly <strong>does</strong> matter where it&#8217;s refined. Those refineries are certainly <strong>not</strong> fungible. Sure, a refinery is a refinery is a refinery &#8211; have you seen the list of capacity? Do you think your Canadian friends can ramp up to counteract the loss of 2,000,000 bbl/d? And that&#8217;s just from the Top 5 refineries in TX. I could be wrong but I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s built one in the US in the last 30 yrs +/-. Or maybe you could have another country refine it for you and transport it? Our friends in South America or the ME would lurv to help us out.<br />
So, the oil and it&#8217;s other products definitely are fungible. But the capacity to refine currently is not. I really don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re arguing here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cleek</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205237</link>
		<dc:creator>cleek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205237</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we might cut the tariff in half for ya&lt;/blockquote&gt;

do whatcha gotta do. tariff all ya like. but again, &quot;fungible&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
<blockquote>we might cut the tariff in half for ya</p></blockquote>
<p>do whatcha gotta do. tariff all ya like. but again, &quot;fungible&quot;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205221</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205221</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1205100&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cleek&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;when you refine oil you get a bunch of other things. things like gasoline, kerosene and asphalt – all of which are, yes, fungible. it doesn’t matter where the shit is refined, the price remains the same. so go ahead, secede. it makes no difference to the energy market.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Poor naive cleek. When Texas makes its corporate paradise with a negative tax rate and you&#039;re stuck with ever rising energy prices due to cap and trade, we might cut the tariff in half for ya. Wouldn&#039;t want the grandmothers in Maine freezing to death because none of y&#039;all want a refining plant in your back yard wouldja?

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1205215&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faux News&lt;/a&gt;: 

Louisiana would never take Houston. Not after we took in all the Katrina victims.

Speaking of, how many citizens did your state feed and house after that catastrophe? Texas saved half a million lives. How&#039;d you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1205100" rel="nofollow">cleek</a>:</p>
<p>
<blockquote>when you refine oil you get a bunch of other things. things like gasoline, kerosene and asphalt &#8211; all of which are, yes, fungible. it doesn&#8217;t matter where the shit is refined, the price remains the same. so go ahead, secede. it makes no difference to the energy market.</p></blockquote>
<p>Poor naive cleek. When Texas makes its corporate paradise with a negative tax rate and you&#8217;re stuck with ever rising energy prices due to cap and trade, we might cut the tariff in half for ya. Wouldn&#8217;t want the grandmothers in Maine freezing to death because none of y&#8217;all want a refining plant in your back yard wouldja?</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-1205215" rel="nofollow">Faux News</a>:</p>
<p>Louisiana would never take Houston. Not after we took in all the Katrina victims.</p>
<p>Speaking of, how many citizens did your state feed and house after that catastrophe? Texas saved half a million lives. How&#8217;d you do?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AJStrata</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205217</link>
		<dc:creator>AJStrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205217</guid>
		<description>Emma Anne,

No, just got a helluva lot of  traffic from my conversion.

But oh yes, they are really pissed off at me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma Anne,</p>
<p>No, just got a helluva lot of  traffic from my conversion.</p>
<p>But oh yes, they are really pissed off at me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Faux News</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205215</link>
		<dc:creator>Faux News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205215</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now what’re you going to do? Ship more from Lousyiana? Ha! Shove more outta LA? Double-ha!
I think we understand each other.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about the USA bombs the shit out of the Republic of Texas sending that shit hole of a state/country back to the 19th century? I&#039;m not worried about the Texas Air Force or Texas Rangers lasting too long in a new Shock &amp; Awe campaign. 

Of course the USA won&#039;t bomb the port of Houston. We will just occupy it and annex it as part of the USA. Maybe LA would want it.

I think we DO understand each other now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
<blockquote>Now what&#8217;re you going to do? Ship more from Lousyiana? Ha! Shove more outta LA? Double-ha!<br />
I think we understand each other.</p></blockquote>
<p>How about the <span class="caps">USA</span> bombs the shit out of the Republic of Texas sending that shit hole of a state/country back to the 19th century? I&#8217;m not worried about the Texas Air Force or Texas Rangers lasting too long in a new Shock &#038; Awe campaign.</p>
<p>Of course the <span class="caps">USA</span> won&#8217;t bomb the port of Houston. We will just occupy it and annex it as part of the <span class="caps">USA</span>. Maybe LA would want it.</p>
<p>I think we DO understand each other now.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: someguy</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205198</link>
		<dc:creator>someguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205198</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Here’s the problem with that argument – if the Courts were to somehow order that the Feds were putting some kind of undue burden on Texas’s (or any state’s) sovereignty by putting conditions on the money they hand out, Congress could respond by cutting off the funds entirely. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, they probably couldn&#039;t.  They&#039;d have to restrict funding in a way that is reasonably related to their problems with Texas.  They couldn&#039;t, for instance, punish Texas for refusing to comply with regulations of federally funded highways, by cutting off block grants to fund Aid to Women and Children (WIC).  They could cut off highway funds or perhaps all transportation funds.  See &lt;em&gt;South Dakota v. Dole &lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
<blockquote>Here&#8217;s the problem with that argument &#8211; if the Courts were to somehow order that the Feds were putting some kind of undue burden on Texas&#8217;s (or any state&#8217;s) sovereignty by putting conditions on the money they hand out, Congress could respond by cutting off the funds entirely. </p></blockquote>
<p>No, they probably couldn&#8217;t.  They&#8217;d have to restrict funding in a way that is reasonably related to their problems with Texas.  They couldn&#8217;t, for instance, punish Texas for refusing to comply with regulations of federally funded highways, by cutting off block grants to fund Aid to Women and Children (WIC).  They could cut off highway funds or perhaps all transportation funds.  See <em>South Dakota v. Dole </em>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JayDenver</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205139</link>
		<dc:creator>JayDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205139</guid>
		<description>Ah, secession.  A whole different take on the &quot;America, Love it or leave it&quot; crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, secession.  A whole different take on the &quot;America, Love it or leave it&quot; crowd.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fulcanelli</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205124</link>
		<dc:creator>Fulcanelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205124</guid>
		<description>Ah, the Great State of Texas(TM), a state of mind that thinks its a country. Lots of pretty women and great musicians. Got to love it for that alone... If we could just find a way to contain the export of it&#039;s politicians to the national arena. They&#039;ve gone  WAYYYYYYY over quota for at least a generation or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the Great State of Texas&#8482;, a state of mind that thinks its a country. Lots of pretty women and great musicians. Got to love it for that alone&#8230; If we could just find a way to contain the export of it&#8217;s politicians to the national arena. They&#8217;ve gone  <span class="caps">WAYYYYYYY</span> over quota for at least a generation or two.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/04/14/first-they-came-for/#comment-1205118</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19956#comment-1205118</guid>
		<description>Succession?  Just let the fuckers go.  They have been an albatross around our necks all our history.  The United States can never be the country it wants to be with these assholes tagging along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Succession?  Just let the fuckers go.  They have been an albatross around our necks all our history.  The United States can never be the country it wants to be with these assholes tagging along.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

