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		<title>By: Steeplejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeplejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Laura W&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;p&gt;Excellent. All I&#039;ve got it &lt;a href=&quot;www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPsx8zdnX4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183767" rel="nofollow">Laura W</a>:
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<p>Excellent. All I&#8217;ve got it <a href="www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPsx8zdnX4" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeplejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeplejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183766&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conumbdrum&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, subtitles can take a little getting used to, but they&#039;re not that hard. Plus a lot of foreign movies now have an optional English soundtrack! I usually prefer the subtitles, but c&#039;mon . . . I think it really is sort of an obdurate resistance to trying anything new and unfamiliar, as if you&#039;re trying to convince a kid to eat something he&#039;s never had before.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183766" rel="nofollow">conumbdrum</a>:
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<p>Yeah, subtitles can take a little getting used to, but they&#8217;re not that hard. Plus a lot of foreign movies now have an optional English soundtrack! I usually prefer the subtitles, but c&#8217;mon . . . I think it really is sort of an obdurate resistance to trying anything new and unfamiliar, as if you&#8217;re trying to convince a kid to eat something he&#8217;s never had before.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183765&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steeplejack&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6d2RG2Rl64&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amelia, you say?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183765" rel="nofollow">Steeplejack</a>:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6d2RG2Rl64" rel="nofollow">Amelia, you say?</a></p>
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		<title>By: conumbdrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>conumbdrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steeplejack:

I think much of the problem lies in moviegoers&#039; resistance to subtitles. Which is silly, really, unless your reading speed is ridiculously slow... in which case you should probably stick with Adam Sandler and Medea anyhow. 

Funny thing about subtitles, though -- after a few minutes, you really don&#039;t even notice that they exist, as if the dialog really was in English. I&#039;ve tried to explain that to the foreign-film resistant, but they think I&#039;m nuts.

My younger brother is the biggest Clint Eastwood/Sergio Leone fan imaginable... but I&#039;ve never been able to get him to take in Kurosawa&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Yojimbo&lt;/i&gt;... which, after all, Leone copped nearly shot for shot for &lt;i&gt;A Fistful of Dollars.&lt;/i&gt; Doesn&#039;t want to have to read while he watches, y&#039;know. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steeplejack:</p>
<p>I think much of the problem lies in moviegoers&#8217; resistance to subtitles. Which is silly, really, unless your reading speed is ridiculously slow&#8230; in which case you should probably stick with Adam Sandler and Medea anyhow.</p>
<p>Funny thing about subtitles, though&#8212;after a few minutes, you really don&#8217;t even notice that they exist, as if the dialog really was in English. I&#8217;ve tried to explain that to the foreign-film resistant, but they think I&#8217;m nuts.</p>
<p>My younger brother is the biggest Clint Eastwood/Sergio Leone fan imaginable&#8230; but I&#8217;ve never been able to get him to take in Kurosawa&#8217;s <i>Yojimbo</i>... which, after all, Leone copped nearly shot for shot for <i>A Fistful of Dollars.</i> Doesn&#8217;t want to have to read while he watches, y&#8217;know. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeplejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeplejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183747&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conumbdrum&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re preaching to the choir. I think most Americans&#039; taste in movies is like the restaurant landscape in the 1950s: everyone raised on bland, meat-and-potatoes fare, and as for &quot;foreign&quot;--&quot;Hey, I love Italian food,&quot; by which they meant pizza and spaghetti.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Foreign movie&quot; doesn&#039;t automatically have to mean dour Bergmanesque twilight--not that there&#039;s anything wrong with that. But I am regularly amazed at the resistance I get from some people when I suggest &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; foreign movie, or any movie so old that--heavens!--it might not be in color. Oh noes! There was one person I couldn&#039;t get to even &lt;i&gt;try&lt;/i&gt; taking a look at &lt;i&gt;Amélie&lt;/i&gt;, which has got to be one of the most approachable, endearing movies ever. But, yes, it is different from the standard Hollywooden fare.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re preaching to the choir. I think most Americans&#8217; taste in movies is like the restaurant landscape in the 1950s: everyone raised on bland, meat-and-potatoes fare, and as for &quot;foreign&quot;&#8212;&quot;Hey, I love Italian food,&quot; by which they meant pizza and spaghetti.</p>
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<p>&quot;Foreign movie&quot; doesn&#8217;t automatically have to mean dour Bergmanesque twilight&#8212;not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with that. But I am regularly amazed at the resistance I get from some people when I suggest <i>any</i> foreign movie, or any movie so old that&#8212;heavens!&#8212;it might not be in color. Oh noes! There was one person I couldn&#8217;t get to even <i>try</i> taking a look at <i>Am&#233;lie</i>, which has got to be one of the most approachable, endearing movies ever. But, yes, it is different from the standard Hollywooden fare.</p>
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		<title>By: conumbdrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Body of Lies? W?&lt;/i&gt; Fucking &lt;i&gt;Twilight?&lt;/i&gt; This is why I switched to Netflix and stopped going to video stores... no more slouching up and down the aisles, glumly poring through rows and rows of Hollywood cash cow crap like this.

These days, at least eighty percent of the films I watch are foreign... and my classic-to-shit ratio is remarkably good. (I see about one bad film for every ten, tops.) The fact that even educated American filmgoers are far more familiar with the output of the Farrelly Brothers and M. Night Shagnasty, films based on television shows, anything featuring Meg Ryan or Adam Sandler and the &lt;i&gt;Scary Movie&lt;/i&gt; series than the work of such cinematic visionaries as Yasujiro Ozu, Andrei Tarkovsky, Robert Bresson and Abbas Kiarostami is cause for collective shame.  Sure, there&#039;s a need and purpose for mindless entertainment, but you don&#039;t need to &lt;i&gt;rent&lt;/i&gt; it - just switch on the goddamn television, kick back and drink in the lowbrow. 

Yes, I am a film snob. And if I can get just one of you good people to check out a heartrending masterpiece like Ozu&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Tokyo Story&lt;/i&gt; or guffaw through a comedy gem like Marion Monicelli&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Big Deal on Madonna Street&lt;/i&gt;... well, my time here will have been well spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Body of Lies? W?</i> Fucking <i>Twilight?</i> This is why I switched to Netflix and stopped going to video stores&#8230; no more slouching up and down the aisles, glumly poring through rows and rows of Hollywood cash cow crap like this.</p>
<p>These days, at least eighty percent of the films I watch are foreign&#8230; and my classic-to-shit ratio is remarkably good. (I see about one bad film for every ten, tops.) The fact that even educated American filmgoers are far more familiar with the output of the Farrelly Brothers and M. Night Shagnasty, films based on television shows, anything featuring Meg Ryan or Adam Sandler and the <i>Scary Movie</i> series than the work of such cinematic visionaries as Yasujiro Ozu, Andrei Tarkovsky, Robert Bresson and Abbas Kiarostami is cause for collective shame.  Sure, there&#8217;s a need and purpose for mindless entertainment, but you don&#8217;t need to <i>rent</i> it &#8211; just switch on the goddamn television, kick back and drink in the lowbrow.</p>
<p>Yes, I am a film snob. And if I can get just one of you good people to check out a heartrending masterpiece like Ozu&#8217;s <i>Tokyo Story</i> or guffaw through a comedy gem like Marion Monicelli&#8217;s <i>Big Deal on Madonna Street</i>... well, my time here will have been well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: protected static</title>
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		<dc:creator>protected static</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To truly appreciate how weak some of Rowling&#039;s writing is, one has to read her aloud... I didn&#039;t have any strong feelings about her books until we started reading them to my son as bedtime reading. Now... bleah.

One could easily turn any of the Harry Potter books into a drinking game. Any time Rowling uses the phrase &quot;Harry, Ron and Hermione,&quot; take a drink. Any time she varies the order of the three names, take two drinks. I&#039;d add in a third rule - any time she doesn&#039;t refer to the trio by name, finish your bottle - but those first two rules alone should have your liver begging for mercy long before the end of any of the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To truly appreciate how weak some of Rowling&#8217;s writing is, one has to read her aloud&#8230; I didn&#8217;t have any strong feelings about her books until we started reading them to my son as bedtime reading. Now&#8230; bleah.</p>
<p>One could easily turn any of the Harry Potter books into a drinking game. Any time Rowling uses the phrase &quot;Harry, Ron and Hermione,&quot; take a drink. Any time she varies the order of the three names, take two drinks. I&#8217;d add in a third rule &#8211; any time she doesn&#8217;t refer to the trio by name, finish your bottle &#8211; but those first two rules alone should have your liver begging for mercy long before the end of any of the books.</p>
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		<title>By: hacienda</title>
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		<dc:creator>hacienda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, JKR isn&#039;t much of a writer either.  Her imagination is pretty good, but her prose is horrid.

(Granted, this is coming from somebody who uses words like &#039;dunno&#039; in her writing.)

And Twilight is misogynist crap.  Forget the sparklies, or the baseball...it glamorizes women being hurt by their men and says it&#039;s okay because the men are really, really sorry afterwards and just couldn&#039;t help themselves.  Gack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, <span class="caps">JKR</span> isn&#8217;t much of a writer either.  Her imagination is pretty good, but her prose is horrid.</p>
<p>(Granted, this is coming from somebody who uses words like &#8216;dunno&#8217; in her writing.)</p>
<p>And Twilight is misogynist crap.  Forget the sparklies, or the baseball&#8230;it glamorizes women being hurt by their men and says it&#8217;s okay because the men are really, really sorry afterwards and just couldn&#8217;t help themselves.  Gack.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc with a C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc with a C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twilight is well-known amongst the more, shall we say, trollish denizens of the internet as being one of the worst pieces of crap ever to stalk the face of the earth.

A vegetarian vampire who can go out in daylight and sparkles like the sun protecting an independent, gorgeous, clumsy, oh-so-speshul Mary Sue (minus about 50 pounds) from a pack of OMG mean vampires who are decided more on the meatetarian side of the aisle.

Oh, and apparently there&#039;s also a love triangle between those two twits and a teenage werewolf.

Stephen King said it best: “Both [J.K.] Rowling and [Stephanie] Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people… The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twilight is well-known amongst the more, shall we say, trollish denizens of the internet as being one of the worst pieces of crap ever to stalk the face of the earth.</p>
<p>A vegetarian vampire who can go out in daylight and sparkles like the sun protecting an independent, gorgeous, clumsy, oh-so-speshul Mary Sue (minus about 50 pounds) from a pack of <span class="caps">OMG</span> mean vampires who are decided more on the meatetarian side of the aisle.</p>
<p>Oh, and apparently there&#8217;s also a love triangle between those two twits and a teenage werewolf.</p>
<p>Stephen King said it best: &#8220;Both [J.K.] Rowling and [Stephanie] Meyer, they&#8217;re speaking directly to young people&#8230; The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can&#8217;t write worth a darn. She&#8217;s not very good.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Steeplejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeplejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183323&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deborah&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have no desire to borrow my 12-year old daughter’s &lt;i&gt;Twilight&lt;/i&gt; books, but I can’t get too het up about The Fate of Our Youth. [. . . What] I was reading at age 12 should have warped me a lot more. We survived; they will too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No argument there. My father didn&#039;t care what I was reading, as long as I was reading something. He felt that my taste would inevitably improve. For the same reason, I&#039;m certainly not complaining about young girls reading the &lt;i&gt;Twilight&lt;/i&gt; books. I just think it&#039;s funny that Cole got blindsided by a wretchedly bad movie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183323" rel="nofollow">Deborah</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have no desire to borrow my 12-year old daughter&#8217;s <i>Twilight</i> books, but I can&#8217;t get too het up about The Fate of Our Youth. [. . . What] I was reading at age 12 should have warped me a lot more. We survived; they will too.</p>
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<p>No argument there. My father didn&#8217;t care what I was reading, as long as I was reading something. He felt that my taste would inevitably improve. For the same reason, I&#8217;m certainly not complaining about young girls reading the <i>Twilight</i> books. I just think it&#8217;s funny that Cole got blindsided by a wretchedly bad movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeplejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeplejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183235&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;burnspbesq&lt;/a&gt;: Also love Little Feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183235" rel="nofollow">burnspbesq</a>: Also love Little Feat.</p>
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		<title>By: Seanly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I heard Twilight was worse than Van Helsing. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dang, that must be bad. Van Helsing is the worst movie I have ever seen (when I wasn&#039;t going in beforehand expecting something awful like Ghost Ship).

John, did you not see ads for Twilight?

Also, why aren&#039;t you doing Netflix? Even with the El Cheapo one-at-a-time limit, I can still get a movie about when I want it. And you can also view &quot;unlimited&quot; movies online or via Xbox Live (though only a handful of 2nd tier titles are available for that). If you watch just 3 or 4 movies a month you more than make up the difference in renting.</description>
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<blockquote>I heard Twilight was worse than Van Helsing. </p></blockquote>
<p>Dang, that must be bad. Van Helsing is the worst movie I have ever seen (when I wasn&#8217;t going in beforehand expecting something awful like Ghost Ship).</p>
<p>John, did you not see ads for Twilight?</p>
<p>Also, why aren&#8217;t you doing Netflix? Even with the El Cheapo one-at-a-time limit, I can still get a movie about when I want it. And you can also view &quot;unlimited&quot; movies online or via Xbox Live (though only a handful of 2nd tier titles are available for that). If you watch just 3 or 4 movies a month you more than make up the difference in renting.</p>
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		<title>By: EL</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, John but I spent several minutes chortling when I read this thread last night. The thought of you watching Twilight and realizing just what the movie was is quite funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, John but I spent several minutes chortling when I read this thread last night. The thought of you watching Twilight and realizing just what the movie was is quite funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Wini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1183236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;J. Michael Neal&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry, I should have been a bit more clear - it&#039;s Gophers hockey that I&#039;ve seemed to cool on over the last several years. Still an overall Gophers fan! And that&#039;s great about the baseball team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1183236" rel="nofollow">J. Michael Neal</a>: Sorry, I should have been a bit more clear &#8211; it&#8217;s Gophers hockey that I&#8217;ve seemed to cool on over the last several years. Still an overall Gophers fan! And that&#8217;s great about the baseball team.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no desire to borrow my 12-year old daughter&#039;s Twilight books, but I can&#039;t get too het up about The Fate of Our Youth. I read Regency romances when that age, with exactly the same plot sans the sparkling, and wasn&#039;t warped for life. Heck, the Heinlein (Podkayne gives up her plan to become a starship navigator because, while more qualified than most boys, she realizes no one will hire a mere girl. Instead, she&#039;ll become a baby nurse and get to DATE the navigator and captain!!!!) I was reading at age 12 should have warped me a lot more. We survived; they will too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no desire to borrow my 12-year old daughter&#8217;s Twilight books, but I can&#8217;t get too het up about The Fate of Our Youth. I read Regency romances when that age, with exactly the same plot sans the sparkling, and wasn&#8217;t warped for life. Heck, the Heinlein (Podkayne gives up her plan to become a starship navigator because, while more qualified than most boys, she realizes no one will hire a mere girl. Instead, she&#8217;ll become a baby nurse and get to <span class="caps">DATE</span> the navigator and captain<img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!) I was reading at age 12 should have warped me a lot more. We survived; they will too.</p>
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