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		<title>By: Trollhattan</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/01/23/christopher-reeves-dream/#comment-1131962</link>
		<dc:creator>Trollhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I supposed to mock Michael J. Fox here? I&#039;m pretty sure somebody is supposed to (reading my talking point card set).

Anyhoo, good first coupla days in office, I&#039;d say. It&#039;s as though...somebody invited a whole bunch of adults to run the show and they actually did. Damn.</description>
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<p>Anyhoo, good first coupla days in office, I&#8217;d say. It&#8217;s as though&#8230;somebody invited a whole bunch of adults to run the show and they actually did. Damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Wile E. Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wile E. Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul L.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Time to use the progressive’s &quot;unproven&quot; talking point for embryonic stem cell research.
Such as this Obama statement
&lt;blockquote&gt;
    I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ok, here&#039;s my challenge for everyone who thinks that the missile defense system works. We take all of you guys, everyone in Congress who voted for it and the contractors who built it and put you in a pen out in the middle of nowhere, or, as the Germans would say &lt;i&gt;am Arschderwelt&lt;/i&gt;. We will call this location &quot;Camp Ground Zero&quot;. Then we fire a bunch of missiles at Camp Ground Zero and see if the missile defense system can intercept them. And when I say missiles I don&#039;t mean some candy-assed PoS Scud derivative like the ones possessed by that sawed-off little retard Kim Jong Il. I mean that&#039;s weak, being able to knock down a Scud isn&#039;t anything to brag about. Hell, that&#039;s like being able to beat Charles Krauthammer in a foot race, or being able to beat George W. Bush at Scrabble. No, for a real test we need to use real, honest to God made in the U.S.A missiles and fortunately we have a bunch of them in the form of the Trident C-4. 
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
The C-4s, which are pretty freakin&#039; awesome, are currently being phased out and replaced with the the even more freakin&#039; aweome Trident D-5. It would be fairly easy to take a boatload of C-4s, remove the reentry bodies and replace them with inert reentry bodies and then send the boat out to hide in the Pacific. Then we start firing the missiles at Camp Ground Zero and see how well the system works.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
The way I see it this is a win-win situation. Hell, it&#039;s chock full o&#039;win. It&#039;s wintastic. It&#039;s winneriffic. It&#039;s das Ueberwin! We have to get rid of the C-4s anyways and at the moment these impressive machines end up being destroyed, their nozzles crushed in a car compactor and the propellant is burned. If you&#039;re a bubblehead on a boomer or one of the guys at LMSC who builds these this has got to be kind of depressing. I mean nobody I know in the submarine service or at LMSC wants to ever have to launch those missiles but on the other hand these guys do go through a lot of training and have worked pretty hard to make sure that these missiles will perform as advertised. Under my proposal we could, in one fell swoop get rid of the C-4 missiles, thus ensuring our compliance with the START treaties, boost the morale of naval personnel and LMSC engineers, provide an excellent training opportunity for the submarine force, test our missile defense system and allow those such as Paul L. who have endured years of mockery, prove their support for the missile system by standing at Camp Ground Zero, secure in the confidence that Ronald Reagan&#039;s dream has been realized.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Any true patriot who really believes in missile defense would happily go to Camp Ground Zero, secure in the knowledge that the missile defense system they championed would protect them. Anyone who wasn&#039;t willing to go to Camp Ground Zero is obviously a terrorist lover who hates America and wants to move to France and have gay sex with Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud &quot;Fuck you. I do not look like Bob Denver&quot; Ahmadinejad.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
So what&#039;s it going to be Paul? Are you going to be a man and a patriot and go to Camp Ground Zero? Or are you just going to get nekkid, grease yourself up, get down on your hands and knees and be the meat in that hot, sweaty,  Chavez/Ahmadinejad sandwich?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul L.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Time to use the progressive&#8217;s &quot;unproven&quot; talking point for embryonic stem cell research.<br />
Such as this Obama statement</p>
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<p>    I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.</p>
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<p>
Ok, here&#8217;s my challenge for everyone who thinks that the missile defense system works. We take all of you guys, everyone in Congress who voted for it and the contractors who built it and put you in a pen out in the middle of nowhere, or, as the Germans would say <i>am Arschderwelt</i>. We will call this location &quot;Camp Ground Zero&quot;. Then we fire a bunch of missiles at Camp Ground Zero and see if the missile defense system can intercept them. And when I say missiles I don&#8217;t mean some candy-assed PoS Scud derivative like the ones possessed by that sawed-off little retard Kim Jong Il. I mean that&#8217;s weak, being able to knock down a Scud isn&#8217;t anything to brag about. Hell, that&#8217;s like being able to beat Charles Krauthammer in a foot race, or being able to beat George W. Bush at Scrabble. No, for a real test we need to use real, honest to God made in the U.S.A missiles and fortunately we have a bunch of them in the form of the Trident C-4.
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<p>
The C-4s, which are pretty freakin&#8217; awesome, are currently being phased out and replaced with the the even more freakin&#8217; aweome Trident D-5. It would be fairly easy to take a boatload of C-4s, remove the reentry bodies and replace them with inert reentry bodies and then send the boat out to hide in the Pacific. Then we start firing the missiles at Camp Ground Zero and see how well the system works.
</p>
<p>
The way I see it this is a win-win situation. Hell, it&#8217;s chock full o&#8217;win. It&#8217;s wintastic. It&#8217;s winneriffic. It&#8217;s das Ueberwin! We have to get rid of the C-4s anyways and at the moment these impressive machines end up being destroyed, their nozzles crushed in a car compactor and the propellant is burned. If you&#8217;re a bubblehead on a boomer or one of the guys at <span class="caps">LMSC</span> who builds these this has got to be kind of depressing. I mean nobody I know in the submarine service or at <span class="caps">LMSC</span> wants to ever have to launch those missiles but on the other hand these guys do go through a lot of training and have worked pretty hard to make sure that these missiles will perform as advertised. Under my proposal we could, in one fell swoop get rid of the C-4 missiles, thus ensuring our compliance with the <span class="caps">START</span> treaties, boost the morale of naval personnel and <span class="caps">LMSC</span> engineers, provide an excellent training opportunity for the submarine force, test our missile defense system and allow those such as Paul L. who have endured years of mockery, prove their support for the missile system by standing at Camp Ground Zero, secure in the confidence that Ronald Reagan&#8217;s dream has been realized.
</p>
<p>
Any true patriot who really believes in missile defense would happily go to Camp Ground Zero, secure in the knowledge that the missile defense system they championed would protect them. Anyone who wasn&#8217;t willing to go to Camp Ground Zero is obviously a terrorist lover who hates America and wants to move to France and have gay sex with Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud &quot;Fuck you. I do not look like Bob Denver&quot; Ahmadinejad.
</p>
<p>
So what&#8217;s it going to be Paul? Are you going to be a man and a patriot and go to Camp Ground Zero? Or are you just going to get nekkid, grease yourself up, get down on your hands and knees and be the meat in that hot, sweaty,  Chavez/Ahmadinejad sandwich?</p>
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		<title>By: Krista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for the love of fuck, are we arguing semantics again? 

Some people are going to use the term &quot;miraculous&quot; without giving it &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; underlying religious meaning. And some use the term &quot;miraculous&quot; while fully imbuing it with its original theological definition.

And yes, there are those of us (including myself) who bristle when some mythical deity is fully credited with the results of man&#039;s hard work, ingenuity and luck. Not everybody who uses the term &quot;miracle&quot; is doing that, however. And by assuming that they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt;, it just makes us look like fussy jerks.

So, deal with it. Stick with &quot;phenomenal&quot; or &quot;incredible&quot;  or &quot;what the flying fuck are the odds of THAT happening again?&quot; for your own usage, and let other people use &quot;miracle&quot; if they want to. Life&#039;s too short for this kind of silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for the love of fuck, are we arguing semantics again?</p>
<p>Some people are going to use the term &quot;miraculous&quot; without giving it <em>any</em> underlying religious meaning. And some use the term &quot;miraculous&quot; while fully imbuing it with its original theological definition.</p>
<p>And yes, there are those of us (including myself) who bristle when some mythical deity is fully credited with the results of man&#8217;s hard work, ingenuity and luck. Not everybody who uses the term &quot;miracle&quot; is doing that, however. And by assuming that they <em>are</em>, it just makes us look like fussy jerks.</p>
<p>So, deal with it. Stick with &quot;phenomenal&quot; or &quot;incredible&quot;  or &quot;what the flying fuck are the odds of <span class="caps">THAT</span> happening again?&quot; for your own usage, and let other people use &quot;miracle&quot; if they want to. Life&#8217;s too short for this kind of silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually those missile systems have been proven not to work.</description>
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		<title>By: les</title>
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		<dc:creator>les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1131507&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wile E. Quixote&lt;/a&gt;: 

OK, that&#039;s a fucking winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1131507" rel="nofollow">Wile E. Quixote</a>:</p>
<p>OK, that&#8217;s a fucking winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Drone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reliance on miracles reminds me of the guy caught in a flood. A row-boat came by, but he said, &quot;No, my God will save me.&quot; Later, a power boat came by, in the rising water, but he said, again, &quot;My God will rescue me!&quot; and refused to get in the boat. Next came a helicopter as he clung to the rooftop of his house, but he refused rescue, awaiting the miracle from his God.

When he drowned and passed over to the Promised Land, he confronted God -- &quot;Where were you? I waited for your rescue, but I drowned!&quot;

God answered, &quot;What did you want? I sent two boats and a chopper!&quot;

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reliance on miracles reminds me of the guy caught in a flood. A row-boat came by, but he said, &quot;No, my God will save me.&quot; Later, a power boat came by, in the rising water, but he said, again, &quot;My God will rescue me!&quot; and refused to get in the boat. Next came a helicopter as he clung to the rooftop of his house, but he refused rescue, awaiting the miracle from his God.</p>
<p>When he drowned and passed over to the Promised Land, he confronted God&#8212;&quot;Where were you? I waited for your rescue, but I drowned!&quot;</p>
<p>God answered, &quot;What did you want? I sent two boats and a chopper!&quot;</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: bago</title>
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		<dc:creator>bago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, falling asleep in a server room with the sounds of hundreds of fans creating a polyphonic cacophony is neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, falling asleep in a server room with the sounds of hundreds of fans creating a polyphonic cacophony is neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to use the progressive&#039;s &quot;unproven&quot; talking point for embryonic stem cell research.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Such as this Obama statement&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to use the progressive&#8217;s &quot;unproven&quot; talking point for embryonic stem cell research.<br />
<a href="http://www.missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp" rel="nofollow">Such as this Obama statement</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: canuckistani</title>
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		<dc:creator>canuckistani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and only the dull hum of machinery to keep them company.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They have Far Side cartoons, too.</description>
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<blockquote>and only the dull hum of machinery to keep them company.</p></blockquote>
<p>They have Far Side cartoons, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Incertus</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/01/23/christopher-reeves-dream/#comment-1131509</link>
		<dc:creator>Incertus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1131471&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shawn in ShowMe&lt;/a&gt;: Sweet! I wasn&#039;t sure whether or not to trust my memory. It&#039;s been a while since I read it, and when Demimondian said that, I started to doubt myself. Thanks for verifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1131471" rel="nofollow">Shawn in ShowMe</a>: Sweet! I wasn&#8217;t sure whether or not to trust my memory. It&#8217;s been a while since I read it, and when Demimondian said that, I started to doubt myself. Thanks for verifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Wile E. Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wile E. Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shygetz
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Okay, so if people doing their jobs properly and having it work out is a &quot;miracle&quot;, what would we call it if a statue of Jesus started bleeding out of its hands and eyes?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Well personally I&#039;d call it something like:
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. THAT FUCKING STATUE IS BLEEDING OUT ITS HANDS AND EYES. AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! FUCK! THAT&#039;S FUCKED UP. OH FUCK, I THINK I&#039;M GOING TO VOMIT BLEARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP! SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPP!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
But that&#039;s just me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shygetz</p>
<blockquote><p>
Okay, so if people doing their jobs properly and having it work out is a &quot;miracle&quot;, what would we call it if a statue of Jesus started bleeding out of its hands and eyes?
</p></blockquote>
<p>
</p>
<p>
Well personally I&#8217;d call it something like:
</p>
</p>
<blockquote><p><i><span class="caps">AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH</span>. THAT <span class="caps">FUCKING STATUE IS BLEEDING OUT ITS HANDS AND EYES</span>. AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /><img src="!" alt="" border="0" />! <span class="caps">FUCK</span>! THAT&#8217;S <span class="caps">FUCKED UP</span>. OH <span class="caps">FUCK</span>, I <span class="caps">THINK I</span>&#8217;M <span class="caps">GOING TO VOMIT BLEARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!! <span class="caps">THE HORROR</span>! THE <span class="caps">HORROR</span>! THE <span class="caps">HORROR</span>! MAKE <span class="caps">IT STOP</span>! MAKE <span class="caps">IT STOP</span>! MAKE <span class="caps">IT STOP</span>! SOMEBODY <span class="caps">PLEASE MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPP</span>!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>
But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: demimondian</title>
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		<dc:creator>demimondian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1131492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;srv&lt;/a&gt;: I do, man, I do.  He&#039;s unsafe at any speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1131492" rel="nofollow">srv</a>: I do, man, I do.  He&#8217;s unsafe at any speed.</p>
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		<title>By: srv</title>
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		<dc:creator>srv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1131393&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demimondian&lt;/a&gt;: Before you worship all those engineers, perhaps you should worship the creator, Nader, first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1131393" rel="nofollow">demimondian</a>: Before you worship all those engineers, perhaps you should worship the creator, Nader, first.</p>
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		<title>By: Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1131368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demimondian&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;i&gt;You intend to be joking, but you’re right, actually.&lt;/i&gt;

I intended to be joking &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; right. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1131368" rel="nofollow">demimondian</a>: <i>You intend to be joking, but you&#8217;re right, actually.</i></p>
<p>I intended to be joking <i>and</i> right. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn in ShowMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn in ShowMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=16106#comment-1131446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demimondian&lt;/a&gt;

The science and magic observation was made by Heinlein in his 1942 story  &quot;Waldo&quot;.  I didn&#039;t know it either til&#039; I googled it.  Incertus with the obscure reference FTW!</description>
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<p>The science and magic observation was made by Heinlein in his 1942 story  &quot;Waldo&quot;.  I didn&#8217;t know it either til&#8217; I googled it.  Incertus with the obscure reference <span class="caps">FTW</span>!</p>
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