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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 15:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the GOP.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008412.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Speaking of GOP corruption...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<blockquote>Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the <span class="caps">GOP</span>.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008412.php" rel="nofollow">Speaking of <span class="caps">GOP</span> corruption&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the GOP. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You must have difficulty reading.  My implication is that Democrats demand an investigation when one of their own goes bad.  That is something that Tom DeLay has never done, for obvious reasons.</description>
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<blockquote>Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the <span class="caps">GOP</span>. </p></blockquote>
<p>You must have difficulty reading.  My implication is that Democrats demand an investigation when one of their own goes bad.  That is something that Tom DeLay has never done, for obvious reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 01:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the GOP.  They are. Pelosi demanding the investigation of one member does not a case make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, your very strong implication is that Democrats are not subject to the corruption that plagues the <span class="caps">GOP</span>.  They are. Pelosi demanding the investigation of one member does not a case make.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 01:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bains, WTF are you talking about.  I have posted about neither Limbaugh nor Kennedy.  If I did post about Kennedy I would say the same thing as I did about Rep. Jefferson - if he broke the law, then good riddance.  Christ, pubs are worse than the moonbats they sneer at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bains, <span class="caps">WTF</span> are you talking about.  I have posted about neither Limbaugh nor Kennedy.  If I did post about Kennedy I would say the same thing as I did about Rep. Jefferson &#8211; if he broke the law, then good riddance.  Christ, pubs are worse than the moonbats they sneer at.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.balloon-juice.com/2006/05/04/another-soon-to-be-vacant-office-in-dc/#comment-160132</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 01:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So much for the argument that when it comes to corruption the two parties are exactly the same.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Laughable...

So Tim, Rush Limbaugh&#039;s addictions are subject to the perusal of all citizens, even though there is no indication that he &#039;potentially&#039; threatened ordinary citizens by driving in such a afflicted state.  Yet Rep Kennedy&#039;s addictions ought to be ignored?  Even when driving while impaired?

While I&#039;m sure the added traffic makes your site meter look wonderful (300+ comments ala DU or Kos), hypocrisy runs this blog - get a clue Cole.</description>
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<blockquote>So much for the argument that when it comes to corruption the two parties are exactly the same.</p></blockquote>
<p>Laughable&#8230;</p>
<p>So Tim, Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s addictions are subject to the perusal of all citizens, even though there is no indication that he &#8216;potentially&#8217; threatened ordinary citizens by driving in such a afflicted state.  Yet Rep Kennedy&#8217;s addictions ought to be ignored?  Even when driving while impaired?</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m sure the added traffic makes your site meter look wonderful (300+ comments ala DU or Kos), hypocrisy runs this blog &#8211; get a clue Cole.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 14:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul Wartenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Wartenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 12:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DougJ Says: 

What about Tammany Hall? That was much worse than the Abramoff scandal? And how about the Whiskey Rebellion while we’re at it and the Stamp Act? Surely, those were much worse in their way than anything the Republicans in Congress have done.

Jefferson should resign, obviously. The sooner the better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ahem.  Republican scandals.  Try the whole Grant Administration, two full terms of corruption and greed that set the standard for political stupidity.  Teapot Dome ring a bell?  Remember the guy who ran against Grover Cleveland, wassisname Blaine?  He had questionable business dealings to where even fellow Republicans voted against him and in favor of a Dem who fathered a child out of wedlock.

Tammany Hall was a massive political machine of corruption and self-serving wickedness.  Know what?  They all got caught, and justly so.  Same goes for Abramoff and his circle of greedy friends.

Remember Chester A. Arthur?  21st President?  He was a major player in the take-and-take spoils system during the Grant and Hayes Administrations.  His public identity as a party hack was so severe that when he took over upon Garfield&#039;s assassination everyone just knew he would bring back the spoils system that Garfield had pledged to end.  It was a major surprise when Arthur DIDN&#039;T, so much so that among historians the Arthur Administration ranks higher than it deserves on sheer good merit than any other reason.

The Whiskey Rebellion?  The Stamp Act?  Those were uprisings against unfair taxation.  Please give examples of how those two events are tied into Congressional/Presidential graft and corruption.</description>
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<p>What about Tammany Hall? That was much worse than the Abramoff scandal? And how about the Whiskey Rebellion while we&#8217;re at it and the Stamp Act? Surely, those were much worse in their way than anything the Republicans in Congress have done.</p>
<p>Jefferson should resign, obviously. The sooner the better.</p>
<p>Ahem.  Republican scandals.  Try the whole Grant Administration, two full terms of corruption and greed that set the standard for political stupidity.  Teapot Dome ring a bell?  Remember the guy who ran against Grover Cleveland, wassisname Blaine?  He had questionable business dealings to where even fellow Republicans voted against him and in favor of a Dem who fathered a child out of wedlock.</p>
<p>Tammany Hall was a massive political machine of corruption and self-serving wickedness.  Know what?  They all got caught, and justly so.  Same goes for Abramoff and his circle of greedy friends.</p>
<p>Remember Chester A. Arthur?  21st President?  He was a major player in the take-and-take spoils system during the Grant and Hayes Administrations.  His public identity as a party hack was so severe that when he took over upon Garfield&#8217;s assassination everyone just knew he would bring back the spoils system that Garfield had pledged to end.  It was a major surprise when Arthur <span class="caps">DIDN</span>&#8217;T, so much so that among historians the Arthur Administration ranks higher than it deserves on sheer good merit than any other reason.</p>
<p>The Whiskey Rebellion?  The Stamp Act?  Those were uprisings against unfair taxation.  Please give examples of how those two events are tied into Congressional/Presidential graft and corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Moomaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Moomaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political corruption, like Alvin Karpis, follows the money -- and it&#039;s precisely because of the GOP&#039;s deliberate and careful construction of the K Street Machine starting in 1995 that they currently have an unparalleled (at least since 1913) monopoly of Congressional campaign contributions, which naturally means an accompanying monopoly of Congressional corruption.  If the Dems decide to retain the K Street concept and utilize it themselves, it will naturally not be too long before they acquire a similarly disproportionate corner on Congressional corruption (as many local and state Democratic political machines have of course done in the past).  But they haven&#039;t got it right now.

By the way, I presume you&#039;ve all heard today&#039;s news about Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) being pulled over by a state trooper in such a sozzled state that he was still trying to speed to a House vote that had actually occurred three hours earlier.  One interesting thing that turns up when you look at Jack Abramoff&#039;s list of individual Congressional bribees, and the amounts he gave to them, is that Kennedy is the ONLY Congressional Dem to whom Just Plain Jack was handing out largesse in amounts comparable to a very large count of Congressional Republicans.  (Sens. Reid and Dorgan, despite all the frantic Republican noise about them, weren&#039;t remotely near them.)  In short, I&#039;ve had strong suspicions about Pat Kennedy already -- but, like William Jefferson, he&#039;s a comparatively rare species at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political corruption, like Alvin Karpis, follows the money&#8212;and it&#8217;s precisely because of the <span class="caps">GOP</span>&#8217;s deliberate and careful construction of the K Street Machine starting in 1995 that they currently have an unparalleled (at least since 1913) monopoly of Congressional campaign contributions, which naturally means an accompanying monopoly of Congressional corruption.  If the Dems decide to retain the K Street concept and utilize it themselves, it will naturally not be too long before they acquire a similarly disproportionate corner on Congressional corruption (as many local and state Democratic political machines have of course done in the past).  But they haven&#8217;t got it right now.</p>
<p>By the way, I presume you&#8217;ve all heard today&#8217;s news about Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) being pulled over by a state trooper in such a sozzled state that he was still trying to speed to a House vote that had actually occurred three hours earlier.  One interesting thing that turns up when you look at Jack Abramoff&#8217;s list of individual Congressional bribees, and the amounts he gave to them, is that Kennedy is the <span class="caps">ONLY </span>Congressional Dem to whom Just Plain Jack was handing out largesse in amounts comparable to a very large count of Congressional Republicans.  (Sens. Reid and Dorgan, despite all the frantic Republican noise about them, weren&#8217;t remotely near them.)  In short, I&#8217;ve had strong suspicions about Pat Kennedy already&#8212;but, like William Jefferson, he&#8217;s a comparatively rare species at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Michael Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Michael Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Jefferson should resign, obviously. The sooner the better.&lt;/i&gt;

Ugh.  Bad as he may be, do we really want Aaron Burr to become President?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Jefferson should resign, obviously. The sooner the better.</i></p>
<p>Ugh.  Bad as he may be, do we really want Aaron Burr to become President?</p>
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		<title>By: SeesThroughIt</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeesThroughIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Looking at the past is what the terrorists want us to do, we can only win if we look to the future, and only the future. We cannot comment on ongoing, or future investigations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; is some good press secretaryin&#039;!

Seriously, though, add my name to the list of people who would like to see ol&#039; Billy Jeff publically booted out of Congress, his party, and pretty much politics in general.</description>
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<blockquote>Looking at the past is what the terrorists want us to do, we can only win if we look to the future, and only the future. We cannot comment on ongoing, or future investigations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now <b>that</b> is some good press secretaryin&#8217;!</p>
<p>Seriously, though, add my name to the list of people who would like to see ol&#8217; Billy Jeff publically booted out of Congress, his party, and pretty much politics in general.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If William Jefferson were the only problem Dem that would be one thng, but, well, he&#039;s clearly not... And I won&#039;t hold my breath for Pelosi to call for investigations of so many members of her own party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If William Jefferson were the only problem Dem that would be one thng, but, well, he&#8217;s clearly not&#8230; And I won&#8217;t hold my breath for Pelosi to call for investigations of so many members of her own party.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Par, you might make sense if Boehner has called for an investigation into a Republican.  Ever.  How about Tom DeLay?  I am sure that you can find an instance of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay calling for an investigation into a disgraced Republican.  Go ahead, I&#039;ll wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Par, you might make sense if Boehner has called for an investigation into a Republican.  Ever.  How about Tom DeLay?  I am sure that you can find an instance of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay calling for an investigation into a disgraced Republican.  Go ahead, I&#8217;ll wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Llelldorin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Llelldorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Par R said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
 Pelosi is now saying things like this notwithstanding the fact that the stories about Jefferson have been around for a number of months. She only moved to this level of discussion because of the plea by one of the “bribers.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/14/delay.hastert/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yes, becuase that&#039;s exactly what Hastert did under similar circumstances.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://speaker.house.gov/library/misc/060403DeLayresignation.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;His palpable anger a year later when Delay resigned was certainly a beacon that Democrats would do well to emulate.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p> Pelosi is now saying things like this notwithstanding the fact that the stories about Jefferson have been around for a number of months. She only moved to this level of discussion because of the plea by one of the &#8220;bribers.&#8221;</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/14/delay.hastert/" rel="nofollow">Yes, becuase that&#8217;s exactly what Hastert did under similar circumstances.</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://speaker.house.gov/library/misc/060403DeLayresignation.shtml" rel="nofollow">His palpable anger a year later when Delay resigned was certainly a beacon that Democrats would do well to emulate.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Par R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Par R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 21:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim says: &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Nancy Pelosi has called for a full investigation into Rep. Jefferson’s conduct (transcript at Carpetbagger). So much for the argument that when it comes to corruption the two parties are exactly the same.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not sure there&#039;s all that much difference, old man. Pelosi is now saying things like this notwithstanding the fact that the stories about Jefferson have been around for a number of months. She only moved to this level of discussion because of the plea by one of the &quot;bribers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim says:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Nancy Pelosi has called for a full investigation into Rep. Jefferson&#8217;s conduct (transcript at Carpetbagger). So much for the argument that when it comes to corruption the two parties are exactly the same.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure there&#8217;s all that much difference, old man. Pelosi is now saying things like this notwithstanding the fact that the stories about Jefferson have been around for a number of months. She only moved to this level of discussion because of the plea by one of the &#8220;bribers.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Otto Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I like Paul’s idea. Don’t sweep dirt under the rug, take it out in the front yard and shake it out. Or even beat it with a stick. Let the Repubs try and Febreze out the stench and see where that gets them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amen.  Throw open the windows and clean house.</description>
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<blockquote>I like Paul&#8217;s idea. Don&#8217;t sweep dirt under the rug, take it out in the front yard and shake it out. Or even beat it with a stick. Let the Repubs try and Febreze out the stench and see where that gets them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen.  Throw open the windows and clean house.</p>
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